mantra wrote on Aug 5^th, 2009 at 9:11am:



These 'Kumbya' statements condemning, and denouncing, such violent actions, and plans, and intents,
.....ARE ALWAYS MADE AFTER SPECIFIC INCIDENTS.

These reactions of feigned outrage, at the actions of some, from the Somali community [and moslem communities] are a ruse.


Dictionary,
ruse = = a stratagem or trick.



Consider,

If these moslem communities are

really sincere

in their professed abhorrence to such [alleged] planned violence against the Australian community [the community, which has kindly given them a home], then why do

these moslem community spokesmen NEVER acknowledge the SOURCE of the moslem community enmity, against non-moslem communities, like Australia?

The undeniable TRUTH is that, ISLAMIC scripture,

....the Koran, and the Hadith,

......are the SOURCE of alienation and radicalism within the moslems community [against non-moslem societies such as Australia], and that

these ISLAMIC 'scriptures' encourage and foster enmity towards non-moslems as a religious OBLIGATION.

Why won't moslem communities acknowledge such facts, and denounce these urgings to emnity with non-moslems, contained within their communities own religious, foundation documents, and 'scriptures'?





From the Koran....

"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/005.qmt.html#005.051
[i.e. any moslem who makes sincere friendship with an unbeliever,

is an unbeliever

]

"O ye who believe! Take not into your intimacy those outside your ranks: They will not fail to corrupt you. They only desire your ruin...."

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/003.qmt.html#003.118

"O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell,- an evil refuge indeed."

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/009.qmt.html#009.073
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/066.qmt.html#066.009

"Fighting [against unbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/002.qmt.html#002.216

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book [Jews and Christians], until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/009.qmt.html#009.029

400 Police personnel
7 months
19 search warrnats
5 arrested
4 charged

Maximum penalty 20 years, with halal food and full service plus medical
(Usually I laugh when they say MAXIMUM PENALTY and somebody gets suspended sentence without being recorded, utter joke)

I can think of better way to spend the money!!!

tallowood wrote on Aug 5^th, 2009 at 9:22pm:



"So anyone that hints towards possible causes/reasons/grievances" -  just on that, tell us, when have the Muslims addressed the grievances against them, the reasons and causes of the general revultion their daily barbarity elicits, the historic wrongs they have done: raids, slave traiding, warfare and subjugation? When will they start acknowldgeing all the wrongs they have done over the last 1400 years? (and that's just grievances by non-Muslims).

Never.

So shut up about your causes/reason/grievamces and general victimhood. You are victims like the bully who finally gets his well deserved and long overdue bollocking. But not enough of it, if you ask me.

Quote:


If he was before me, I would have said, bailiffs, grab a hold of Mr Sayed, and raise him to his feet. 'You stand before this court, whatever your religious beliefs Mr Sayed, or you stand in contempt.'

Soren wrote on Aug 5^th, 2009 at 10:43pm:



soren,

A very nice analogy.



We should try to find, and express more such analogies, which expose the absurd, an hypocritical position held by ISLAM / moslems, in relation to moslems views on justice, TRUTH, and 'justified' violence, in 'defence' of ISLAMIC aggression.

We should try to clearly expose, that ISLAMIC aggression and violence, is perpetrated against non-moslems,

BECAUSE

, they do not believe as moslems do.

And that, is the only reason.

Quote:


http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25890136-5013404,00.html


those contempt giving somali muslims have had abiout as much lienancy as the australian legal system will give.
In a court, the judge is shown respect and teremd as "Your honour, Sir or Madam".

Lock them up, evict them from aussie.
they are violent, ridicule the legal system and do not belong here

These pricks and their assorted enablers and apologists are happy for them to die for Islam over here but not to live under Islam over there.

Hanging is too good for them.