An entire family murdered by terrorists... Imagine if this happened to you? Or someone you know? Or to your fellow countrymen? As we've seen from the all the hysteria and carry-on over the last few days, and no attack even occured. Yet this family has had 4 of it's members blown into smithereens...

Nevermind, just remember the number 4... that's all they are... just numbers. But be aware those numbers mean more than just numbers to some people, to their families, to their friends, neighbours, countrymen, co-religionists...

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Four killed in Afghan air strike

An air strike by foreign troops killed four members of one family in Afghanistan's southern Kandahar province, villagers said on Wednesday after bringing the bodies to the provincial capital to show officials.

Civilian deaths caused by foreign troops while hunting the resurgent Taliban have eroded support for the presence of the troops and have also become a major source of friction between Kabul and the West.

In Kabul, a spokesman for the NATO-led force that commands most of the foreign troops in Kandahar said he would investigate the report.

The strike happened late Tuesday (local time), killing three boys and a man, all members of one family, in Arghandab, a lush valley to the western outskirts of Kandahar city, residents said.

"They were civilians killed by the air strike while fast asleep," Jan Mohammad, a village elder, said.

Mr Mohammad was among scores of residents from Arghandab who brought the bodies to show provincial authorities in the city.

The commander of US and NATO forces in Afghanistan, General Stanley McChrystal, issued orders last month placing greater limits on the use of air strikes in order to reduce civilian casualties.

The deaths come amid mounting violence in Afghanistan and as US and NATO forces press on with major operations aimed at securing Taliban-held areas in neighbouring Helmand province.

Source: Your ABC

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The way these facts are presented, it seems open and shut.

Doesn't it?





But what about the fact that ALL moslems are [self declared] combatants, even they if not uniformed, and even if not [openly] declared?




Personally abu, i am sorry for, and regret, the loss of life in this example you present.

But you cannot prove that these 'civilians', were not combatants.

And moslems themselves, have been murdering other moslems ['civilians'], for the last 1,400 years.

But when THAT happens, where is the outrage expressed, by moslems?


Many more examples, of moslems killing moslems, HERE,


http://thereligionofpeace.com/



And all we hear is a deafening silence,
.....from moslems within communities in the West, and within ALL Sharia jurisdictions.

Q.
Why is there no outspoken criticism, from moslems, when moslems kill moslems?

A.
Because if these moslems complain, about moslems killing moslems,
......THEY KNOW THAT A MOSLEM MAY KILL THEM, TOO!

Sat, August 26, 2006
When Muslims kill Muslims
By SALIM MANSUR
The most famous massacre in Muslim history by armed might of the state took place at Karbala on the banks of the Euphrates in 680. On that terribly bloody day, Husayn bin Ali -- grandson of Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, by his daughter Fatima -- was brutally killed and decapitated as he was offering his mid-afternoon prayers.
Husayn's male companions were slaughtered by the army of Yazid, the caliph (Islam's supreme ruler), while women and children in the company of Husayn, including his wife and daughter, were abused and carried as war trophies to the capital of the expanding Arab-Islamic empire in Damascus.
......Karbala is a necessary reminder of Muslims being unequalled tormentors and killers of Muslims. Saddam Hussein as the ruling tyrant in Baghdad was only the most recent incarnation of an Arab Macbeth and the Mongol Genghis Khan rolled into one megalomaniacal killer.
......Iraq's health ministry reported July was the deadliest month for Iraqi casualties since March 2003. The figures provided were 3,438 Iraqis killed -- 1,855 of those as a result of sectarian violence and 1,583 from bombings and shootings carried out by insurgents.
......There has been no organized protest within the Arab-Muslim world or in the West against the daily toll of Iraqi deaths due to this hate-driven insurgency.
Nor is Iraq the only place where Muslim violence against Muslims rages unabated. There is Darfur in Sudan, Somalia, Afghanistan, Kashmir, Algeria until recently, and hotspots in Iran, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Indonesia and Nigeria, Uzbekistan, Palestine, Morocco, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Lebanon.
How, then, might we explain why Muslim deaths seem only to matter to Arabs and Muslims -- and to apologists of Arab-Muslim politics in the West -- when they occur as a result of conflicts with the U.S. or Israel?

http://www.torontosun.com/News/Columnists/Mansur_Salim/2006/08/26/1777155.html

original link, has gone.

try Google,
"When Muslims kill Muslims" SALIM MANSUR
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=%22When+Muslims+kill+Muslims%22+SALIM+MA...





JUST LIKE ALL MOSELMS, the accused men in this next news report believe they are allowed to kill 'immoral' people.

15 April 2007
Group cleared over Iran murders
Iran's Supreme Court has acquitted a group of men charged over a series of gruesome killings in 2002, according to lawyers for the victims' families.
The vigilantes were not guilty because their victims were involved in un-Islamic activities, the court found.
The killers said they believed Islam let them spill the blood of anyone engaged in illicit activities if they issued two warnings to the victims.
The serial killings took place in 2002 in the south-eastern city of Kerman.
....The accused, who were all members of an Islamic paramilitary force, told the court their understanding of the teachings of one Islamic cleric allowed them to kill immoral people if they had ignored two warnings to stop their bad behaviour.
But there was no judicial process to determine the guilt of the victims in these cases.
The group even killed a young couple they thought were involved in sex outside marriage, but media reports say the couple were either married or engaged to be married.
Lawyers for the victims' families say the Supreme Court has five times overturned the verdict of a lower court that found all the men guilty of murder.
Now the Supreme Court is reported to have acquitted all the killers of the charge of murder on the grounds that their victims were all morally corrupt.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6557679.stm





More 'immoral' ppl killed in 'liberated' Iraq, for having a Western style picnic...

March 23, 2005
Death at 'immoral' picnic in the park
Students are beaten to death for playing music as Shia militiamen run amok
.....In Basra.....Islamic militias already are beginning to apply their own version of that law [Sharia], without authority from above or any challenge from the police.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article434762.ece
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/005463.php

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If Australia were invaded by China, I'm sure most civilians would take the role of combatant and fight to defend their homes too. That's a human reaction, not a distinctly Muslim one.

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Yeh I'm sure you do. I'm sure it really touches deep into your heart. And I'm sure it occupied more of your thoughts over the last few days, than the supposed, alleged plan to maybe attack an army base. That's if you actually even bothered to read about it, before I posted it here.

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You're right I can't, anymore than you can prove the thousands of people killed in the WTC on 9/11 were not combatants. Agreed..

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Come on, Muslim civil wars don't even remotely compare to what occured in Europe during that time. The amount of crusades you guys had against yourselves, your inquisitions, pogoroms etc.

Mr. Pot please have a look at your own charred and sooty self first, before even casting your glance at the history of the Muslims.

Likewise the U.S had a right to protest against the 9/11 attacks, not to invade two countries, kill hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians, leave a trail of rape, torture, false imprisonments and other injustices that'll probably leave the world in conflict for decades and decades to come.

Are you that blinded to how one sided you're being here helian? Every single thing you've stated can equally, and in fact more so apply to the other side, multiple times over.

Were the hundreds of thousands of dead in Afghanistan and Iraq just murdered as an "act of criticism of the state (The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan)"?? Or is it only Muslims who retaliate that have their motives reduced to such a frivolous matter?

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So you keep saying...

The hundreds of thousands killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, your fellow humans, helian. Murder, Rape, Torture, False Imprisonment, Desecration of their corpses, etc. etc.

Then protest against the wars. Lobby your MP. Demonstrate peacefully, though forcefully, against the war... Safe in the knowledge that the state defends your right to protest and to be protected from murderers.

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Not sure if you're aiming this directly at me, or if it's just in general at Muslims, but I'm not even protesting, I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of our hysteria, and the self-centred egotistical belief that we're the good guys and they're the bad guys. The fact we killed hundreds of thousands of them is completely detached from what's now happening here... or so we'd like to assure ourselves.