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Aug 15th, 2009 at 11:38am
 

There you go Abu. have a shot, tell us a story.

it'ld be nice if there were no derigatory remarks here against the koran et al.
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Reply #1 - Aug 16th, 2009 at 6:14pm
 
As has been mentioned before (when you, or perhaps others opened similar topics to this), your book cannot even be compared with the Qur'an. Your book is more like hadith, wisdoms and quotes of people (prophets). The Qur'an is the divine word of God, not golden rules or prophetic advice.

And in those threads I provided for you some wisdoms from the collections of Muhammad's hadith.

Such as:

Let him who believes in God and the day of judgement, either speak good or be silent. Let him who believes in God and the day of judgement, be kind to his neighbour. Let him who believes in god and the day of judgement honour his guest.



Nobody truly believes until he loves for his brother what he loves for himself"



The first of people against whom judgment will be pronounced on the Day of Resurrection will be a man who died a martyr. He will be brought and Allah will make known to him His favours and he will recognize them. [ The Almighty] will say: And what did you do about them? He will say: I fought for you until I died a martyr. He will say: You have lied - you did but fight that it might be said [of you]: He is courageous. And so it was said. Then he will be ordered to be dragged along on his face until he is cast into Hell-fire. [Another] will be a man who has studied [religious] knowledge and has taught it and who used to recite the Quran. He will be brought and Allah will make known to his His favours and he will recognize them. [The Almighty] will say: And what did you do about them? He will say: I studied [religious] knowledge and I taught it and I recited the Quran for Your sake. He will say: You have lied - you did but study [religious] knowledge that it might be said [of you]: He is learned. And you recited the Quran that it might be said [of you]: He is a reciter. And so it was said. Then he will be ordered to be dragged along on his face until he is cast into Hell-fire. [Another] will be a man whom Allah had made rich and to whom He had given all kinds of wealth. He will be brought and Allah will make known to his His favours and he will recognize them. [The Almighty] will say: And what did you do about them? He will say: I left no path [untrodden] in which You like money to be spent without spending in it for Your sake. He will say: You have lied - you did but do so that it might be said [of you]: He is open-handed. And so it was said. Then he will be ordered to be dragged along on his face until he is cast into Hell-fire.



Spend (on charity), O son of Adam, and I shall spend on you.



O son of Adam, I fell ill and you visited Me not. He will say: O Lord, and how should I visit You when You are the Lord of the worlds? He will say: Did you not know that My servant So-and-so had fallen ill and you visited him not? Did you not know that had you visited him you would have found Me with him? O son of Adam, I asked you for food and you fed Me not. He will say: O Lord, and how should I feed You when You are the Lord of the worlds? He will say: Did you not know that My servant So-and-so asked you for food and you fed him not? Did you not know that had you fed him you would surely have found that (the reward for doing so) with Me? O son of Adam, I asked you to give Me to drink and you gave Me not to drink. He will say: O Lord, how should I give You to drink whin You are the Lord of the worlds? He will say: My servant So-and-so asked you to give him to drink and you gave him not to drink. Had you given him to drink you would have surely found that with Me.



Give the worker his wage before his sweat dries



But we both know you're not interested in Islamic spiritualism sprint. You are interested in ways to criticise it.. This is because you lack sincerity.
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Reply #2 - Aug 16th, 2009 at 9:36pm
 
This is all very nice but nothing new. You don't need Mohammed for these. It has been all said before. "Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached."
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Reply #3 - Aug 16th, 2009 at 10:42pm
 
quid est quod fuit ipsum quod futurum est quid est quod factum est ipsum quod fiendum est.

nihil sub sole novum nec valet quisquam dicere ecce hoc recens est iam enim praecessit in saeculis quae fuerunt ante nos.
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Reply #4 - Aug 16th, 2009 at 11:01pm
 
[quote author=helian link=1250300293/0#3 date=1250426554]quid est quod fuit ipsum quod futurum est quid est quod factum est ipsum quod fiendum est.

nihil sub sole novum nec valet quisquam dicere ecce hoc recens est iam enim praecessit in saeculis quae fuerunt ante nos.
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'ello, 'ello, 'ello, Wassis then? Quotin' the Bible, are we, gov?
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Reply #5 - Aug 17th, 2009 at 12:07am
 
Soren, you are a dolt.

The Qur'an does not say anything about spreading Islam by the sword. Actually if we look at it, the Bible is the book in which God supposedly commanded the faithful to go out and slaughter people wholesale.

You really have some nerve fabricating such lies about Islam, when they exist as truth in your own book. Guess the best defense is a good offense right?

Quote:
"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity!  Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children.  But do not touch anyone with the mark.  Begin your task right here at the Temple."  So they began by killing the seventy leaders.  "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded.  "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill!  Go!"  So they went throughout the city and did as they were told."


If anyone's book is a little violent then it's yours, it is bursting from the seams of your book, not mine.

Yeh yeh yeh, "We don't follow that anymore", good for you.. it''s still in your book, it was brought by your prophets, it was commanded by God (according to your book), so the capacity for it, the idea of it, is part and parcel of your book and your religion. To now all of a sudden claim such things are pure evil, would be to blaspheme against your own God, something I know you couldn't care less about aanyway...
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Reply #6 - Aug 17th, 2009 at 1:29am
 
Soren wrote on Aug 16th, 2009 at 11:01pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 16th, 2009 at 10:42pm:
quid est quod fuit ipsum quod futurum est quid est quod factum est ipsum quod fiendum est.

nihil sub sole novum nec valet quisquam dicere ecce hoc recens est iam enim praecessit in saeculis quae fuerunt ante nos.


'ello, 'ello, 'ello, Wassis then? Quotin' the Bible, are we, gov?

Nothing new under the sun, old son.
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Reply #7 - Aug 17th, 2009 at 8:16am
 

thanks ABU, feel freet post spiritual quotes from the koran with references.

Again, I'ld appreciate no derigatory coments.
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Reply #8 - Aug 17th, 2009 at 8:51am
 
How many of those quotes are covered by the Golden Rule?

Oh dear. Yet here we have someone scorning the Bible.

The Christians book is the NT...  something Abu has been told ad nauseum yet he still lies about its contents.
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Reply #9 - Aug 17th, 2009 at 10:11am
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 16th, 2009 at 10:42pm:
quid est quod fuit ipsum quod futurum est quid est quod factum est ipsum quod fiendum est.

nihil sub sole novum nec valet quisquam dicere ecce hoc recens est iam enim praecessit in saeculis quae fuerunt ante nos.




Latin for all?


This post, from he who criticised myself, for having the temerity to clarify the meaning of words, by presenting dictionary definitions.


helian,

What do those words mean?

Except to confirm to yourself, that obviously, great minds [such as your own] are conversant with Latin phrases, whereas, we lower proles can barely speak the Queens English.


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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #10 - Aug 17th, 2009 at 10:40am
 
abu_rashid wrote on Aug 17th, 2009 at 12:07am:
Soren, you are a dolt.

The Qur'an does not say anything about spreading Islam by the sword. Actually if we look at it, the Bible is the book in which God supposedly commanded the faithful to go out and slaughter people wholesale.

You really have some nerve fabricating such lies about Islam, when they exist as truth in your own book. Guess the best defense is a good offense right?

Quote:
"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity!  Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children.  But do not touch anyone with the mark.  Begin your task right here at the Temple."  So they began by killing the seventy leaders.  "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded.  "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill!  Go!"  So they went throughout the city and did as they were told."


If anyone's book is a little violent then it's yours, it is bursting from the seams of your book, not mine.

Yeh yeh yeh, "We don't follow that anymore", good for you.. it''s still in your book, it was brought by your prophets, it was commanded by God (according to your book), so the capacity for it, the idea of it, is part and parcel of your book and your religion. To now all of a sudden claim such things are pure evil, would be to blaspheme against your own God, something I know you couldn't care less about aanyway...





abu,

The violent event, in the Bible verse you quote, hasn't taken place yet.

And i notice that you freely quoted this Bible verse, but failed to give any reference.

So that folk could look it up, and comprehend for themselves.

Ezekiel 9:4-7




The events of Ezekiel 9:4-7 were the events which took place within a vision.

Ezekiel 8:1
And it came to pass in the sixth year, in the sixth month, in the fifth day of the month, as I sat in mine house, and the elders of Judah sat before me, that the hand of the Lord GOD fell there upon me.
2  Then I beheld, and lo a likeness as the appearance of fire: from the appearance of his loins even downward, fire; and from his loins even upward, as the appearance of brightness, as the colour of amber.
3  And he put forth the form of an hand, and took me by a lock of mine head; and the spirit lifted me up between the earth and the heaven, and brought me in the visions of God to Jerusalem, to the door of the inner gate that looketh toward the north; where was the seat of the image of jealousy, which provoketh to jealousy.
4  And, behold, the glory of the God of Israel was there, according to the vision that I saw in the plain.






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Reply #11 - Aug 17th, 2009 at 10:43am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 17th, 2009 at 8:16am:
thanks ABU, feel freet post spiritual quotes from the koran with references.

Again, I'ld appreciate no derigatory coments.






Good luck!                      Grin

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Reply #12 - Aug 17th, 2009 at 10:48am
 
Yadda wrote on Aug 17th, 2009 at 10:11am:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 16th, 2009 at 10:42pm:
quid est quod fuit ipsum quod futurum est quid est quod factum est ipsum quod fiendum est.

nihil sub sole novum nec valet quisquam dicere ecce hoc recens est iam enim praecessit in saeculis quae fuerunt ante nos.


Latin for all?

This post, from he who criticised myself, for having the temerity to clarify the meaning of words, by presenting dictionary definitions.

helian,

What do those words mean?

Except to confirm to yourself, that obviously, great minds [such as your own] are conversant with Latin phrases, whereas, we lower proles can barely speak the Queens English.

You're a Christian aren't you, kunt?

Work it out.
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Reply #13 - Aug 17th, 2009 at 11:02am
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 17th, 2009 at 10:48am:
Yadda wrote on Aug 17th, 2009 at 10:11am:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 16th, 2009 at 10:42pm:
quid est quod fuit ipsum quod futurum est quid est quod factum est ipsum quod fiendum est.

nihil sub sole novum nec valet quisquam dicere ecce hoc recens est iam enim praecessit in saeculis quae fuerunt ante nos.


Latin for all?

This post, from he who criticised myself, for having the temerity to clarify the meaning of words, by presenting dictionary definitions.

helian,

What do those words mean?

Except to confirm to yourself, that obviously, great minds [such as your own] are conversant with Latin phrases, whereas, we lower proles can barely speak the Queens English.

You're a Christian aren't you, kunt?

Work it out.









helian,

Can't you say that in some obscure, ancient Peruvian dialect, so that we can all be edified by your words?



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Reply #14 - Aug 17th, 2009 at 11:10am
 

Come on guys, let abu have his words in here
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