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Reply #15 - Aug 20th, 2009 at 10:23am
 
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No.

I do not.

And i believe that the existence of people such as yourself...


Ok, so then go  back and amend your post, to direct it at yourself, that _YOU_ do not accept co-existence with other religions.

Thank you for undoing your own claim.
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Reply #16 - Aug 20th, 2009 at 11:37am
 
Is there something wrong with not accepting co-existence with other religions?  Europe's refusal to accept religious co-existence reduced the numbers of troublesome minorities to our benefit.
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Reply #17 - Aug 20th, 2009 at 12:19pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Aug 20th, 2009 at 10:23am:
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No.

I do not.

And i believe that the existence of people such as yourself...


Ok, so then go  back and amend your post, to direct it at yourself, that _YOU_ do not accept co-existence with other religions.


Thank you for undoing your own claim.






ISLAM IS NOT A RELIGION



abu,

ISLAM is not a religion [in my opinion].

ISLAM is an evil, political tyranny, in my opinion.

ISLAM, is a group of disparate,
criminal, 'mafia' like gangs,
fighting for supremacy, over each other.

TRUTH

...

ISLAM is a death cult...
IDF shot children waving white flags
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1250207614/14#14







TOLERANCE


abu,

I do believe in choice.

An analogy......
Anyone can, and some among us do, choose to be murderers.

I don't believe that a murderer should have a choice, to live among us [non-murderers].


I also, believe that people should be convinced of, and have the free choice, of their religion, or not.


Whereas, ISLAM does NOT [willingly] offer that choice.

The Koran...

"If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him;........."

Koran 3:85


I even believe that people should be allowed to choose ISLAM, for themselves.

What i do not believe in, is that ISLAM should be a choice,
in this society.


And i have explained why i hold that view, here,

"An open letter to Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd"
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1247892235/0#0






ISLAM, IS A GREAT EVIL


ISLAM, is pure evil [in my opinion].

I believe that we, Australians,
should choose
, to separate ourselves from this evil.
....but i don't believe that we will.

Why?

Because our 'shepherds' are evil, corrupted men.i
"LET THERE BE NO COMPULSION IN RELIGION......."



The famous Koran verse, often
offered to naive non-moslems
,
....'proving' ISLAM's tolerance of other religions,
....and, REALLY proving that,
ALL GOOD MOSLEMS ARE BARE FACED LIARS
....

"Let there be no compulsion in religion......."

Koran 2:256


The darker interpretation on this 'soft' verse,
.....AND AN 'INTERPRETATION' WHICH MILITANT MOSLEMS ACCEPT, IS,

"You can choose conversion, submission, or death.
.....**NO COMPULSION**! YOU CHOOSE."


EXAMPLES HERE,

Iraq -
4 March 2007
Iraq's Mandaeans 'face extinction'
By Angus Crawford
The Sabian Mandaeans - one of the oldest religious groups in the world - are facing extinction, according to its leaders.
They claim that Islamic extremists in Iraq are trying to wipe them out through forced conversions, rape and murder.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6412453.stm



Sudan -
An estimated 2 million Christians have been murdered in the last 20 years, in Sudan [by ISLAMISTS]


2002
"....jihad forces Islam on Christians Women refusing to convert gang-raped, mutilated, says relief worker.
....Backed by Muslim clerics, the National Islamic Front regime in the Arab and Muslim north declared a jihad, or holy war, on the south in 1989. Since 1983, an estimated 2 million people have died from war and related famine. About 4.5 million have become refugees."

http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/jihad.htm

Google,
2 million christians killed 20 years sudan
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=2+million+christians+killed+20+years+sud...






YOUTUBE audio presentation, EXPOSING MOSLEM LIES,
Part 063 - No Compulsion in Religion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajKMsVie2B0








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Psalms 5:4
For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee.


1 Thessalonians 5:19
Quench not the Spirit.
20  Despise not prophesyings.
21  Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
22  Abstain from all appearance of evil.


Revelation 18:4
And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Re: Israeli wins Fatah top body seat
Reply #18 - Aug 25th, 2009 at 9:13am
 
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Once again, I will ask you to look at all the Churches, Synagogues and other religious buildings standing all throughout the Islamic world, and compare them to the religious buildings of historical significance still standing in the Christian world. For at least 1800 years of Europe's Christian history, you didn't even allow other religions to exist at all. Whilst for all of our 1300 years of Islamic rule, we had various different religions all through our lands...


It's a bit like saying the Confederate South and Cotton Plantation owners were supporters of African Culture. They weren't, they were supporters of slavery.

Dhimmis exist to do the work in muslim societies, which are tribal warrior societies. So while the muslims run around shouting allah akbar jihad and peacefully converting others by raping their women and chopping off the husband's heads, the dhimmis run the society and do the boring stuff, called...WORK. The dhimmi was replaced by petroleum in the modern age, but he'll be back when the petrol runs out or the muslim menace takes over more non-petroleum countries.
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ISLAM is a vicious [un-reformable] political tyranny, which has always murdered its critics, and it continues that practice even today.
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Reply #19 - Aug 25th, 2009 at 10:20am
 
Calanen, What your anti-Islamic slant on everything prevents you from realising is that Europe during that same time period didn't allow other religions to even exist at all, meaning it put them to death willy nilly, didn't permit them to have places of worship, and generally oppressed them. Even Christians often preferred living under Islamic rule to Christian rule.

Islam in comparison was paradise for non-Muslims in that time.

You must compare two situations based on the same period.
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Reply #20 - Aug 25th, 2009 at 11:25am
 
abu_rashid wrote on Aug 25th, 2009 at 10:20am:
Calanen, What your anti-Islamic slant on everything prevents you from realising is that
Europe during that same time period didn't allow other religions to even exist at all, meaning it put them to death willy nilly, didn't permit them to have places of worship, and generally oppressed them.
Even Christians often preferred living under Islamic rule to Christian rule.

Islam in comparison was paradise for non-Muslims in that time.


You must compare two situations based on the same period.




Christianity is not made up of perfected people.
.....but ISLAM is.
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"If anyone desires a religion other than Christianity, never will it be accepted of him;........."

Luke 12:56
/sarc off

try,
Koran 3:85
http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/quran/...


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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Reply #21 - Aug 25th, 2009 at 12:06pm
 
That might not be a correct Biblical quote, but this one certainly is...

Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."
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Reply #22 - Aug 25th, 2009 at 1:09pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Aug 25th, 2009 at 12:06pm:
That might not be a correct Biblical quote, but this one certainly is...

Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."




abu,

You and yours are very lucky then, on two counts.

#1 That i am not, and Christians are not, Jewish.

#2 And, that today, is not 1,400 B.C.


But your luck may not last.



Isaiah 26:21
For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.


Malachi 3:1
Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.
But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:


Malachi 3:14
Ye have said, It is vain to serve God: and what profit is it that we have kept his ordinance, and that we have walked mournfully before the LORD of hosts?
15  And now we call the proud happy; yea, they that work wickedness are set up; yea, they that tempt God are even delivered.
16  Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.
17  And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.
18  Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not.



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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #23 - Aug 25th, 2009 at 2:01pm
 
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But your luck may not last.
Isaiah 26:21
For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.


Are you saying that one day Christians will return to killing apostates? So why are you attacking Islam for it, if you admit you're going to begin re-implementing it? In fact most things you attack Islam for, are clearly in your own Bible, and therefore one can assume that your condemnation of them is a little insincere...
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Reply #24 - Aug 25th, 2009 at 2:49pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Aug 25th, 2009 at 2:01pm:
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But your luck may not last.
Isaiah 26:21
For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.


Are you saying that one day Christians will return to killing apostates?





No.


Jesus said,

John 4:20
Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.
21  Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.
22  Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
23  But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
24  God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.






How do moslems 'worship', and why?

They believe that they [moslems] can possess God's 'promised land' by force.

Why?

Because the words of their prophet exhorts them to do so.


"Allah 's Apostle said, " I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,' ...."

http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith...


"On his death-bed Allah's Apostle....said, "May Allah's Curse be on the Jews and the Christians....."

http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith...





God's 'promised land' is a spiritual gift, that will be given, to whom he will give it.

But our God won't give that gift to murderers.

It is a gift, for his 'children'.


Revelation 21:7
He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.


Amos 9:8
Behold, the eyes of the Lord GOD are upon the sinful kingdom, and I will destroy it from off the face of the earth; saving that I will not utterly destroy the house of Jacob, saith the LORD.
9  For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth.
10  All the sinners of my people shall die by the sword, which say, The evil shall not overtake nor prevent us.


Jeremiah 23:6
In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.
7  Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that they shall no more say, The LORD liveth, which brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;
But, The LORD liveth, which brought up and which led the seed of the house of Israel out of the north country, and from all countries whither I had driven them; and they shall dwell in their own land.




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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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