Coral Sea wrote on Aug 28
th, 2009 at 5:47am:
I consider myself an extremist in that I have political views far outside the mainstream. But this forum seems mostly about bashing (I don't mean that in a negative way) Islam. Little help?
Quote:How do y'all define extremism?
Coral Sea,
There is an old human concept called 'The Golden Rule'.
Google,
"The Golden Rule"http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=%22The+Golden+Rule%22&btnG=Goo...'The Golden Rule' reflects a recognition within ourselves, that we should treat others, in a way we would want to be treated.
Matthew 22:36
Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it,
Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.ISLAM is a philosophy which abandons the moral principle embedded in 'The Golden Rule'.
In its foundation 'religious' texts, and in its doctrines, ISLAM announces that 'The Golden Rule' does not apply to non-moslems [does not apply to all other human beings].
Within ISLAM, application of 'The Golden Rule', applies
ONLY
to other moslems.
People on this forum, like abu, may deny this.
But such a denial, would be nothing more that a moslem lie.
AN ETHICAL BASIS FOR WAR
by Bill Warner (Jan 2007)
"......Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, and most atheists agree that lying, theft, murder, destroying the sanctity of family, and lusting after other people’s property is bad behavior.
Upon reflection, all of these prohibitions prevent harm to others. We don’t harm others and we don’t want to be harmed. We all want to be treated well and this is the best way to treat others, hence the Golden Rule:
Do unto others, as you would have them do unto you.
The Golden Rule is an ethic of unity. Everyone is treated the same. One ethical system for all people.
This has been said in many ways in many religions and cultures. But there is a religion and culture that does not agree with these ethics—Islam.
......What are Islamic ethics and where do we find them?
.....A Muslim should be a brother to other Muslims (not the rest of humanity). A Muslim should not kill another Muslim. A Muslim may lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam.
So for Islam the ethical statements are:
Do not kill another Muslim.
Do not steal from another Muslim.
Do not deceive another Muslim.
Islam divides the entire world into Islam and nonbelievers and has two sets of ethics, one for Islam and another for the rest. The Golden Rule has the equality of all humanity as its basis. It is not: Do unto some people, as you would have them do unto you, but do unto all people as you would have them do unto you.
Islam denies the universality of the Golden Rule because Islam starts with the division of the entire world, all humanity, into two different groups—Islamic and non-Islamic. Every aspect of Islamic ethics is based upon this separation. Having two distinct groups leads to two different ethical codes. Said another way, Islam has dualistic ethics.
Deceit, violence and force are optional actions against the unbelievers. Believers are to be treated as brothers and sisters. Islam’s ethics are based upon:
Good is whatever advances Islam.
Evil is whatever resists Islam.
......the whole world must submit to Islam; nonbelievers are the enemy simply because they are not Muslims. To achieve this dominance, Islam may use terror and violence. It may use psychological warfare, fear, and theft. It may take the spoils of war from non-Muslims. Violence and terror are made sacred by the Koran. Peace comes only with submission to Islam.
http://www.newenglishreview.org/custpage.cfm?frm=5208&sec_id=5208