abu_rashid wrote on Sep 1
st, 2009 at 10:25am:
In other words, you're not up to the challenge.
As I thought, you cannot produce any such evidence of Islam permitting rape, because it simply doesn't exist.
And as I suspected, you'll now completely dodge the issue of 'relations with captives' being commanded and permitted by the "God of Israel" (ie. your God).
So are 'relations with captives' inherently evil Yadda?
abu,
Isn't this a bit of an irrelevant question, seeing as i don't have any captives at the moment, and i can't envisage acquiring any in the short term?
Psalms 146:8
The LORD openeth the eyes of the blind: the LORD raiseth them that are bowed down: the LORD loveth the righteous:
9 The LORD preserveth the strangers; he relieveth the fatherless and widow: but the way of the wicked he turneth upside down.
Galatians 4:3
Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world:
4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
6 And because ye are sons,
God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
7 Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.
8 Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods.
9 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?i
Quote:Is the practice of raiding cities and taking women and property as "booty" inherently evil?
Is capital punishment for adultery inherently evil?
Are any of your claims against Islam things which are inherently evil?
Or are they all specific to time-period?
abu,
Yes, and no.
Today, for non-Jews, the old testament, is for teaching, and reference.
Why is that?
Because, if people, any person, wants to participate in it, there is a new testament, a new covenant in place,
....between the God of Israel, and his people.
1 Corinthians 10:1
Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
5 But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness.
6 Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.
7 Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.
8 Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand.
9 Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.
10 Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.
11
Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
Jeremiah 31:31
Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that
I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel;
After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
abu,
Believe what you will.
....we all do!
Our choice.
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