abu,
Coming back to your original point / assertion.....
abu_rashid wrote on Aug 31
st, 2009 at 2:02pm:
Quote:And how, as you understand it, the rape of captive women, by moslem men, IS JUSTIFIED WITHIN ISLAM, and is not fornication.
Raping is not permitted in Islam in any case, and I challenge you to produce any Islamic text claiming it is.
This item today at Jihad Watch...
September 2, 2009
Ahmadinejad's Imam a Misunderstander of Islam, says Islam allows raping, torturing prisoners
It's so hard to get good clerical help these days. Even the top clerics misunderstand the Religion of Peace™.
"Ahmadinejad's Imam: Islam Allows Raping, Torturing Prisoners," by Nissan Ratzlav-Katz for Israel National News, September 1 (thanks to all who sent this in):
(IsraelNN.com) A highly influential Shi'a religious leader, with whom Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad regularly consults, apparently told followers last month that coercion by means of rape, torture and drugs is acceptable against all opponents of the Islamic regime. [...]
"Can an interrogator rape the prisoner in order to obtain a confession?" was the follow-up question posed to the Islamic cleric.
Mesbah-Yazdi answered: "The necessary precaution is for the interrogator to perform a ritual washing first and say prayers while raping the prisoner. If the prisoner is female, it is permissible to rape through the vagina or anus. It is better not to have a witness present. If it is a male prisoner, then it's acceptable for someone else to watch while the rape is committed."...
A related issue, in the eyes of the questioners, was the rape of virgin female prisoners. In this instance, Mesbah-Yazdi went beyond the permissibility issue and described the Allah-sanctioned rewards accorded the rapist-in-the-name-of-Islam:
"If the judgment for the [female] prisoner is execution, then rape before execution brings the interrogator a spiritual reward equivalent to making the mandated Haj pilgrimage [to Mecca], but if there is no execution decreed, then the reward would be equivalent to making a pilgrimage to [the Shi'ite holy city of] Karbala."
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/027435.phpBut of course abu, your next assertion is, that Iran, is not an ISLAMIC state, and that those
moslems
in power in Iran [the mullahs], are not rightly 'guided moslems', not 'REAL' moslems - LIKE YOURSELF.
/sarc off
abu,
Believe
what you will.
Pronounce to be TRUTH,
what you will.
BUT,
our moral choices, are
our moral choices.
In your endorsement of ISLAM, by your actions, by your defence of that evil philosophy in this forum, you personally, are helping to enable, and facilitate the evil and wickedness of ISLAM.
And as a devout person [which you claim to be], do you imagine, that you will escape Gods wrath???
And i confront you, and assert that you DO know
in your own heart, what is good, and what is evil.
So why do you hesitate now, to do what you know, is right?
abu, you are defending
pure evil
.
abu, we personally, are responsible for our moral choices [....before God].
Repent, and be forgiven.
++++++
Isaiah 56:1
Thus saith the LORD, Keep ye judgment, and do justice:
for my salvation is near to come, and my righteousness to be revealed.
2 Blessed is the man that doeth this, and the son of man that layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it,
and keepeth his hand from doing any evil.
3 Neither let the son of the stranger, that hath joined himself to the LORD, speak, saying, The LORD hath utterly separated me from his people: neither let the eunuch say, Behold, I am a dry tree.
4 For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant;
5 Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.
6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;
7 Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.
8 The Lord GOD which gathereth the outcasts of Israel saith, Yet will I gather others to him, beside those that are gathered unto him.
Isaiah 55:6
Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:
7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.