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Sep 5th, 2009 at 9:58pm
 
Islam is boring
by Mary Jackson



It’s dull, dull, dull. My God it’s dull. It’s so desperately dull and tedious and boring and unimaginative and irrepressibly drab and awful and desp-er-ate-ly dull.


Python's Michael Palin was talking about accountancy, but he could just as easily have been talking about Islam. And accountancy is not violent or dangerous, although there have been heated arguments over cash flow hedges and calculators at dawn over embedded derivatives.


Islam is like global warming. It’s very boring but very important. It would be better if the important things were interesting, so we would all take notice of them.


Why is Islam so dull? There are a number of reasons.


Dull things feed off themselves. Writers who review other writers’ books – favourably for fear of a bad review in revenge – end up dull, even if they start out interesting. Television programmes about television are usually dull. Actors are dull when they talk about acting.


The purpose of Islam is Islam – the spread of Islam, the subjugation and destruction of all things non-Islamic. There is nothing else to Islam. It feeds off itself and reproduces itself. Just as a human being would, without challenges, Islam becomes tyrannical – and dull.


Allah, in Islam, created man to be his slave, with no thoughts, initiative or ideas of his own, and in consequence no morality, for morality is only possible if one can choose between right and wrong. As well as being tyrannical and cruel, this is tedious. There is none of the debate that the Judeo-Christian God has, for example with Job, because the perfect Muslim is not autonomous: he is an automaton.


Islam’s rules are quite arbitrary. Muslims are enjoined to put their right shoe on first, but it could just as easily be their left. The rules are arbitrary because Allah is arbitrary. He can make anything happen, and change his laws at will. This makes Allah terrifying, but boring at the same time. Any child knows that a story without rules would be tedious. The rules are different from the rules we have in real life, but there must be internal consistency. And games without rules would be pointless; nobody would pay to watch two top-class tennis players hit the ball into the net and call it a goal.


There are many other reasons why Islam is boring, but I can’t be bothered thinking about them, as I have a freshly painted wall to observe drying. The problem is that we are obliged to think about Islam because, although it is boring, it threatens everything that isn’t boring: art, music, cathedrals, literature, jokes, dogs, love, perfume, bacon, statues, science, wine, beer, Catherine Tate, limericks, films, plays, democracy and Spinal Tap.


How can something as boring, stupid and pointless as Islam destroy something as great as Western Civilisation?


It happens. Think of friends or relations you have known, lively interesting people, who acquire dull wives or husbands. Nine times out of ten, the dullness prevails. A late relative of mine used to remark when two boring or nasty people got together: “Well, at least they won’t spoil another couple.” People level down more than they level up. Something as dreary and nasty as Islam will drag us down to its level rather than allow us to change it for the better. That's the way it goes.


Anyway, I’m bored with Islam, so that’s it for now.



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Reply #1 - Sep 14th, 2009 at 10:23pm
 
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There is nothing else to Islam. It feeds off itself and reproduces itself. Just as a human being would, without challenges, Islam becomes tyrannical – and dull.


The replicators are coming!!!

Come on, have you run out of angles soren?? "Islam is boring"?? Get a life.

This thread is in fact testament to the overwhelming monotony that must be your own religion, which cannot keep you spiritually content, you must constantly seek deficiencies and faults in the beliefs of others.
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Reply #2 - Sep 17th, 2009 at 12:19am
 
I must admit, it is hard to know whether to be revolted or bored, so hideous and monotonous are the public, political manifestations of Islam.







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Reply #3 - Sep 29th, 2009 at 8:40am
 

"Islam is BORING"




Oh come on soren!!

Is ISLAM really, THAT, boring???          Grin





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An image of devout young moslem women, hiding what ???
.....their 'honour' ???       Grin       Grin       Grin

New, premarital 'virginity' on sale, for as little as $15, to young women in many moslem countries.





28 September 2009
Egypt anger over virginity faking
A leading Egyptian scholar has demanded that people caught importing a female virginity-faking device into the country should face the death penalty.
Abdul Mouti Bayoumi said supplying the item was akin to spreading vice in society, a crime punishable by death in Islamic Sharia law.
.....The contraption is seen as a cheap and simple alternative to hymen repair surgery, which is carried out in secret by some clinics in the Middle East.
.....The device is reported to be on sale in Syria for $15.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8279276.stm
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/09/egypt-islamic-scholar-calls-for-death-penalty-...




soren, soren, soren,

'Islam is BORING'?

The antics of devout moslems are often quite entertaining, to anyone with just a modicum of 'giggle factor', and with the slightest sense of humour.



But seriously, some of these 'antics' by moslems,
SHOW TO THE WHOLE NON-MOSLEM WORLD
, just how insincere, and lacking in 'honour', many moslems are, in their faith, and in their 'devout ISLAMIC' conduct.

These type of revealed 'antics', show that many moslems are 'faking it' !!!

WHY, are many moslems faking it ???

Who do they think that they are fooling ???

Don't these moslem girls, realise that Allah knoweth all that they do !!! ????      Cheesy      Grin



"Know they not that Allah knoweth what they conceal and what they reveal?"

Koran 2.77


"And Allah doth know what ye conceal, and what ye reveal. "

Koran 16.19


"Fulfil the Covenant of Allah when ye have entered into it, and break not your oaths after ye have confirmed them; indeed ye have made Allah your surety; for Allah knoweth all that ye do."

Koran 16.91

etc, etc, etc.


You bad, bad, moslem girls!         Grin


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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Reply #4 - Sep 29th, 2009 at 9:08am
 
Is God fooled by our deceptions?

Luke 12:1
In the mean time, when there were gathered together an innumerable multitude of people, insomuch that they trode one upon another, he began to say unto his disciples first of all, Beware ye of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy.
2  For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; neither hid, that shall not be known.
3  Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness shall be heard in the light; and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets shall be proclaimed upon the housetops.



Isaiah 29:13
Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:
14  Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.
15  Woe unto them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the LORD, and their works are in the dark, and they say, Who seeth us? and who knoweth us?


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Reply #5 - Sep 30th, 2009 at 1:14am
 
The purpose of Islam is Islam – the spread of Islam, the subjugation and destruction of all things non-Islamic. There is nothing else to Islam. It feeds off itself and reproduces itself. Just as a human being would, without challenges, Islam becomes tyrannical – and dull.

This and the "Name the Islamic Shakespeare" threrad are about the same thing. Islam is unproductive except when it comes to destroying or subjugating everything non-Islamic.

Zzzzzzzzzz.......
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Reply #6 - Sep 30th, 2009 at 8:57am
 
Oh come now - just like those crazy Hari Krishnas, some regional Catholic practices and the crazy antics of the Mormons, Islam has its eccentric moments. Tourists really like this sort of thing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJIofU-0jC0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzkpuztoJiA

Personally I find religions to be very 'interesting'. I also find it interesting how the followers of one religion are capable of doing all manner of silly things, but they are blind to it. Of course they can see the absurdity in other religions. I won't mention John Safran's crucifixion in the Phillippines. That was just plain silly.

I often wonder why it doesn't just click with them - but then I'm non-religious and I accept that I will never really understand.
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Reply #7 - Sep 30th, 2009 at 9:08am
 
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This and the "Name the Islamic Shakespeare" threrad


Since my comments were deleted from that thread, I'll take this opportunity to add my two bob's worth here.

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According to the French-based and woefully-named Reporters without Frontiers (some terms simply don't translate)


The fact this imbecile doesn't even understand the French "frontières" translates as "borders" in this phrase hardly gives one much confidence in his credentials as an inter-lingual literature critic.

I doubt he would even know of a single Arabic writer, not because they don't exist, but because he's such a poorly-educated ignoramus. The Arabic literary tradition is quite rich and stretches back much further than the time of Shakespeare. In fact the reason Shakespeare is so acclaimed is because of the fact not much else came before him.

Lack of knowledge about foreign cultures doesn't indicate they're deficient, it just suggests an insipid self-centred viewpoint of the world and the various cultures that make up it's people.
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abu_rashid wrote on Sep 30th, 2009 at 9:08am:
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This and the "Name the Islamic Shakespeare" threrad


Since my comments were deleted from that thread, I'll take this opportunity to add my two bob's worth here.

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According to the French-based and woefully-named Reporters without Frontiers (some terms simply don't translate)


The fact this imbecile doesn't even understand the French "frontières" translates as "borders" in this phrase hardly gives one much confidence in his credentials as an inter-lingual literature critic.

I doubt he would even know of a single Arabic writer, not because they don't exist, but because he's such a poorly-educated ignoramus. The Arabic literary tradition is quite rich and stretches back much further than the time of Shakespeare. In fact the reason Shakespeare is so acclaimed is because of the fact not much else came before him.

Lack of knowledge about foreign cultures doesn't indicate they're deficient, it just suggests an insipid self-centred viewpoint of the world and the various cultures that make up it's people.



No, the point is that even half-educated Muslims have heard of Homer, Plato, Aristotle, Shakespeare, Mozart, Beethoven, Hemmingway, Michelangelo, da Vinci, Dante, Balzac, Tolstoy, Einstein, Freud, Camus, Voltaire, Hegel, Hume, and the rest.
Not even well-educated westerners can name notable muslims beyond perhaps Naguib Mahfouz and Avicenna and Averroes. All the glorious Muslim achievers are obscure because they are insignificant beyond their small cultural sphere.

The western notables are notable not because of some insidious western propaganda or because of colonialism but because they are genuinely great and significant. ANd that is because of their universally recognised contribution to their field.

That's the diff.

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No, the point is that even half-educated Muslims have heard of Homer, Plato, Aristotle...


Please.. Claiming these ancient Greek writers as Western civilisation's own, whose writings are completely disconnected from modern Western culture by not only thousands of years, but also by language and cultural gaps that could fill a small abyss, is just ridiculous. It'd be like Islamic/Arabic culture claiming the Epic of Gilgamesh, Enuma Elis, Letters of Hammurabi, the Enmerkar Legends, Book of the Dead, The Tale of Sinuhe, the Bible, Talmud etc. were all part of the Arabic/Islamic tradition, since they were written in the Middle East, by people with similar languages and contain similar cultural traditions to our own....

The reason these names are known to Muslims/Arabs is because we're the ones who discovered them!!! Europe washed their hands at them and burnt their books by the time Islam arrived on the scene. We found copies of their works in the ruins of their civilisation that we took over, translated them, studied them, and eventually passed them on to you. That's why they're known to us.

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Shakespeare, Mozart, Beethoven, Hemmingway, Michelangelo, da Vinci, Dante, Balzac, Tolstoy, Einstein, Freud, Camus, Voltaire, Hegel, Hume, and the rest.


I could name just as many Islamic writers who are known to genuine Western intellectuals. Not to the Euro-centric ignoramuses you read.

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Not even well-educated westerners can name notable muslims beyond perhaps Naguib Mahfouz and Avicenna and Averroes.


Ibn Khaldun, Omar Khayyam, Abu Nawas, Ibn Zaydun, Antarah Ibn Shaddad, Ibn Tufail, al-Jahiz, Ibn al-Haytham and many others could be added to that list, along with plenty of other contemporary Arabic writers.

Besides even if the West did not recognise them, that does not detract one iota from their achievements or their greatness. In fact it just makes the West's self-centred introspective view of the world all the more bland and limited.

Each and every people have been grand and well known during their heyday, don't let it goto your head and convince you that you're the only show that's ever blown into town. 1000 years ago, some Muslims may have been deluded with a similar kind of self-importance and distorted impression that they were the only show ever to make the big time also....

The interesting thing is that you [unintentionally] recognised that between the ancient Greeks and the Renaissance, nothing of note came out of Europe, ie. for the entire Christian period.
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abu_rashid wrote on Sep 30th, 2009 at 10:54am:
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No, the point is that even half-educated Muslims have heard of Homer, Plato, Aristotle...


Please.. Claiming these ancient Greek writers as Western civilisation's own, whose writings are completely disconnected from modern Western culture by not only thousands of years, but also by language and cultural gaps that could fill a small abyss, is just ridiculous. It'd be like Islamic/Arabic culture claiming the Epic of Gilgamesh, Enuma Elis, Letters of Hammurabi, the Enmerkar Legends, Book of the Dead, The Tale of Sinuhe, the Bible, Talmud etc. were all part of the Arabic/Islamic tradition, since they were written in the Middle East, by people with similar languages and contain similar cultural traditions to our own....

The reason these names are known to Muslims/Arabs is because we're the ones who discovered them!!! Europe washed their hands at them and burnt their books by the time Islam arrived on the scene. We found copies of their works in the ruins of their civilisation that we took over, translated them, studied them, and eventually passed them on to you. That's why they're known to us.

We've dealt with this particular delusion of yours many times already. Your repeating it does not make it any less silly.

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Shakespeare, Mozart, Beethoven, Hemmingway, Michelangelo, da Vinci, Dante, Balzac, Tolstoy, Einstein, Freud, Camus, Voltaire, Hegel, Hume, and the rest.


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Not even well-educated westerners can name notable muslims beyond perhaps Naguib Mahfouz and Avicenna and Averroes.

Ibn Khaldun, Omar Khayyam, Abu Nawas, Ibn Zaydun, Antarah Ibn Shaddad, Ibn Tufail, al-Jahiz, Ibn al-Haytham and many others could be added to that list, along with plenty of other contemporary Arabic writers.

Besides even if the West did not recognise them, that does not detract one iota from their achievements or their greatness. In fact it just makes the West's self-centred introspective view of the world all the more bland and limited.


Ah, so these are household names in Latin America, black Africa, East and South East Ais and only the west is ignorant of them.


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Each and every people have been grand and well known during their heyday, don't let it goto your head and convince you that you're the only show that's ever blown into town. 1000 years ago, some Muslims may have been deluded with a similar kind of self-importance and distorted impression that they were the only show ever to make the big time also....

The interesting thing is that you [unintentionally] recognised that between the ancient Greeks and the Renaissance, nothing of note came out of Europe, ie. for the entire Christian period.


So even though the west has been globally unrivalled since it stopped the westward spread of islam, that's just being a cultural blow-in.

I am fascinated by your intellectual pathologies.


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Soren wrote on Sep 30th, 2009 at 12:08pm:
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Ibn Khaldun, Omar Khayyam, Abu Nawas, Ibn Zaydun, Antarah Ibn Shaddad, Ibn Tufail, al-Jahiz, Ibn al-Haytham and many others could be added to that list, along with plenty of other contemporary Arabic writers.


Ah, so these are household names in Latin America, black Africa, East and South East Ais and only the west is ignorant of them.



You hadn't heard of Omar Khayyam? Even a phillistine scientist such as myself had a copy of the Rubaiyat when younger. It was a very effective 'chick magnet' in those days to be seen reading it.

Times have changed.  Wink
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Reply #12 - Sep 30th, 2009 at 6:15pm
 
Being embraced for a decade or three by faddish counter-cultural types in the 30s or 60s is not exactly the literary influence that matters.

At any rate, I don't think he is read in the maddrasses of the Hindu Kush or Riyadh, even as he is held up by Abu as a great sign of their supposedly lasting and influntial culture. Those guys have no use for chick magnet literature, you see.

I also doubt that not reading his leaves as big a mental gap as, say, Shakespare, Goethe, Dante, Homer, or even Baudelaire or Pushkin - and that's just the poets.

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Reply #13 - Oct 1st, 2009 at 9:34am
 
I was being more than a bit superficial in my appraisal of the Rubaiyat. A cursory look at the number of translations from the 19th century to the present day shows that it's every bit as influential, and probably better known than some of Shakespeare's works.

Here with a Loaf of Bread beneath the Bough,
A Flask of Wine, a Book of Verse - and Thou
Beside me singing in the Wilderness -
And Wilderness is Paradise enow.
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Reply #14 - Oct 1st, 2009 at 10:41am
 
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At any rate, I don't think he is read in the maddrasses of the Hindu Kush or Riyadh, even as he is held up by Abu as a great sign of their supposedly lasting and influntial culture.


Just as I'm sure half of those you mentioned are not the staple in Sunday schools in the Bible belt of America... And?

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