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Re: Islam is BORING
Reply #15 - Oct 1st, 2009 at 12:43pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Oct 1st, 2009 at 10:41am:
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At any rate, I don't think he is read in the maddrasses of the Hindu Kush or Riyadh, even as he is held up by Abu as a great sign of their supposedly lasting and influntial culture.


Just as I'm sure half of those you mentioned are not the staple in Sunday schools in the Bible belt of America... And?



And Islam is still BORING, intellectually, culturally, scientifically barren and negligible.

What have the Muslims ever done for us, Reggie? Apart from transmitting some Indian and Greek knowledge in a fit of absent mindedness  - usually they aim to destroy everything pre-Islamic.

Islam has not contributed nothing of note to the world for centuries, except mayhem in pursuit of domination. And the "final messenger's" moral universe hinders on things like which shoe to put on first and how many times you should turn around before you throw a pinch of salt over your left - no wait - your right shoulder.  Or something like that. No, it IS the left one, isn't it?

Apart from submission to Allan and Mohammed, it has nothing to offer. ANd so it has not offered anything. Its glory days were when it did not actively stand in the way of things. That's all the Golden Age was. It is a slothful creed, intellectually and otherwise, except when it comes to jihad. It's a warlods's creed. Frightful, dangerous, but still BORING.



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Reply #16 - Oct 1st, 2009 at 12:58pm
 
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And Islam is still BORING, intellectually, culturally, scientifically barren and negligible.


I'll tell you what... something around here is getting a little boring...

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Islam has not contributed nothing of note to the world for centuries


Nice double negative. I agree, Islam has not contributed nothing of note.

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Its glory days were when it did not actively stand in the way of things.


Ahhh right... so the entire Islamic golden age was just bound to happen anyway, just lucky some leaders came into power who didn't stand in it's way  Grin

I don't even need to contribute to this thread... you're quite capable of making yourself look like an idiot without me.
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Reply #17 - Oct 1st, 2009 at 10:52pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Oct 1st, 2009 at 12:58pm:
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Islam has not contributed nothing of note to the world for centuries


Nice double negative. I agree, Islam has not contributed nothing of note.

I was translating from the Arabic, as one does....

You know what was meant, that's why you are latching onto typos.
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Reply #18 - Oct 1st, 2009 at 11:27pm
 

abu - "the islamic golden age..............."

we now have horseless carriages !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Reply #19 - Oct 11th, 2009 at 9:44pm
 
Yadda wrote on Sep 29th, 2009 at 8:40am:



[size=14]28 September 2009
Egypt anger over virginity faking
A leading Egyptian scholar has demanded that people caught importing a female virginity-faking device into the country should face the death penalty.
Abdul Mouti Bayoumi said supplying the item was akin to spreading vice in society, a crime punishable by death in Islamic Sharia law.
.....The contraption is seen as a cheap and simple alternative to hymen repair surgery, which is carried out in secret by some clinics in the Middle East.
.....The device is reported to be on sale in Syria for $15.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8279276.stm
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/09/egypt-islamic-scholar-calls-for-death-penalty-...




soren, soren, soren,

'Islam is BORING'?

The antics of devout moslems are often quite entertaining, to anyone with just a modicum of 'giggle factor', and with the slightest sense of humour.



But seriously, some of these 'antics' by moslems,
SHOW TO THE WHOLE NON-MOSLEM WORLD
, just how insincere, and lacking in 'honour', many moslems are, in their faith, and in their 'devout ISLAMIC' conduct.

These type of revealed 'antics', show that many moslems are 'faking it' !!!

WHY, are many moslems faking it ???

Who do they think that they are fooling ???

Don't these moslem girls, realise that Allah knoweth all that they do !!! ????      Cheesy      Grin





You Can't Be Serious
William Saletan writes at Slate:

If you're a woman in a conservative Muslim country, you had better bleed on your wedding night. If you don't, your husband or his family will know you aren't a virgin. For that, you could be beaten or killed.

If you're a man, on the other hand, all you have to do on your wedding night is ejaculate. Nobody expects you to bleed or produce any other proof of virginity.

Some day, this barbaric and hypocritical tradition will end. Until then, the best we can do is fool it. You want blood on your wedding night? We'll give you blood. Fake blood.

For many years, doctors have quietly offered hymenoplasty, a procedure that restores your hymen so you can fake virginity on your wedding night. And now you don't even need a doctor. Joseph Freeman of the Associated Press reports:

The Artificial Virginity Hymen kit, distributed by the Chinese company Gigimo, costs about $30. It is intended to help newly married women fool their husbands into believing they are virgins—culturally important in a conservative Middle East where sex before marriage is considered by many to be illicit. The product leaks a blood-like substance when inserted and broken. Gigimo advertises shipping to every Arab country.

On its Web site, Gigimo explains more about the product:

Artificial Virginity Hymen is created from Kyoto, Japan at 1993. it was first introduced to the locals, then it gets famous and spread to Thailand at 1995 and now available in South East Asia, South Asia and in the Middle East countries. It is mainly made of natural albumin, medical use inflation element and water-soluble base medicinal preparation which have no side effect. Insert this artificial hymen into your vagina carefully. It will expand a little and make you feel tight. When your lover penetrate, it will ooze out a liquid that look like blood not too much but just the right amount. Add in a few moans and groan, you will pass through undetectable.

Outraged Egyptian lawmakers are demanding a ban on the kit. Freeman reports:

Sheik Sayed Askar, a member of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood who is on the parliamentary committee on religious affairs, said the kit will make it easier for Egyptian women to give in to temptation. He demanded the government take responsibility for fighting the product. ... Prominent Egyptian religious scholar Abdel Moati Bayoumi said anyone who imports the artificial hymen should be punished. "This product encourages illicit sexual relations. Islamic culture forbids these relations except within the confines of marriage," Bayoumi said. ... "If this thing enters Egypt, the country is going to go to waste. God protect us," commented a reader on the Web site of Egyptian newspaper Al-Youm Al-Sabie.

Pause for a moment to consider what these men are asking God to protect them from: a cheap, mass-produced insert that releases fake blood. It's the technical equivalent of a Halloween gag. But to them, this is no gag. It's an offense against God.

In this way, the artificial hymen serves as a useful test of religious idiocy. If a $30 item that leaks fake blood violates your faith so profoundly that you must ban it, then what you have isn't really a faith. It's a fetish. And your fetish won't survive globalization...
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Reply #20 - Oct 12th, 2009 at 8:03am
 

thats a dreadful thing to say about fetishs soren !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Reply #21 - Oct 12th, 2009 at 9:38am
 
So it should be banned, since it is a device used to commit fraud and fabricate something about yourself which is not true.
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Reply #22 - Oct 12th, 2009 at 10:22am
 

obsessives would call for that.

get used to the deflating of islam
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Re: Islam is BORING
Reply #23 - Oct 12th, 2009 at 10:41am
 
abu_rashid wrote on Oct 12th, 2009 at 9:38am:
So it should be banned, since
it is a device used to commit fraud and fabricate something about yourself which is not true.






Hmmm,

An interesting point of argument.

But this particular argument, never seems to be of any concern to those moslems who promote the veracity of the Koran.


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Reply #24 - Oct 12th, 2009 at 11:16am
 
abu_rashid wrote on Oct 12th, 2009 at 9:38am:
So it should be banned, since it is a device used to commit fraud and fabricate something about yourself which is not true.



Caveat emptor
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Reply #25 - Oct 12th, 2009 at 12:11pm
 

........ or in abus mindset, protect the great deception of islam by any means ???
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Reply #26 - Oct 12th, 2009 at 1:45pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Oct 12th, 2009 at 9:38am:
So it should be banned, since it is a device used to commit fraud and fabricate something about yourself which is not true.


Abu - this is where the hypocrisy lies. The women have to be virgins - but what about the men? What do they have to prove, or are they taken at their word that they're pure? What happens to the women they've had sex with previously? Are they no longer suitable for marriage?
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Reply #27 - Oct 12th, 2009 at 7:16pm
 
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Abu - this is where the hypocrisy lies. The women have to be virgins


Wait a minute... can you show me where I stated anything about anyone having to be a virgin???

All I said was the devices are wrong, because they facilitate people lying and deceiving one another. Nowhere did I mention anything about anyone having to be a virgin.

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but what about the men?


Couldn't agree more, it's despicable that a man who isn't a virgin would expect his wife to be.

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What happens to the women they've had sex with previously? Are they no longer suitable for marriage?


I don't know, and I don't agree with such things, and neither does Islam, but that's got nothing to do with the topic of people selling devices that help to deceive a life partner about your body...

soren,

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Some day, this barbaric and hypocritical tradition will end. Until then, the best we can do is fool it. You want blood on your wedding night? We'll give you blood. Fake blood.


The quite ironic part about this topic is that your own holy book is probably the source of these stupid blood-stained sheet traditions which are still quite popular amongst many Christian cultures too btw.

And let us examine why:

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If a man takes a wife and, after lying with her, dislikes her and slanders her and gives her a bad name, saying, "I married this woman, but when I approached her, I did not find proof of her virginity," then the girl's father and mother shall bring proof that she was a virgin to the town elders at the gate. The girl's father will say to the elders, "I gave my daughter in marriage to this man, but he dislikes her. Now he has slandered her and said, 'I did not find your daughter to be a virgin.' But here is the proof of my daughter's virginity." Then her parents shall display the cloth before the elders of the town, and the elders shall take the man and punish him. (Deuteronomy 22:13-18)
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Re: Islam is BORING
Reply #28 - Oct 13th, 2009 at 9:17am
 
mantra wrote on Oct 12th, 2009 at 1:45pm:
abu_rashid wrote on Oct 12th, 2009 at 9:38am:
So it should be banned, since it is a device used to commit fraud and fabricate something about yourself which is not true.


Abu - this is where the hypocrisy lies.
The women have to be virgins - but what about the men? What do they have to prove, or are they taken at their word that they're pure? What happens to the women they've had sex with previously? Are they no longer suitable for marriage?





mantra,

All good points to raise.





mantra,

Regards abu's reply to you,
where he quotes Jewish scripture
, abu is not a Jew.

abu, claims he is a good moslem, and moslems claim they have their own religious texts to quote from.

So why moslems need to quote Jewish scripture, to make a point about moslem virtue, and to support a moslem argument, is beyond me?

Particularly
, as moslems make the claim that Jewish and Christian scriptures are in fact corrupted, and are no longer valid, and are no longer 'sanctified' documents.

So why do moslems refer to them, to prove, to support, their moslem arguments?



But perhaps the reason that abu and ISLAM happily refer to Jewish and Christian scriptures, is from a desperate need on the part of moslems
to prove ISLAM's provenance
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.....through constantly referring back to Judaism, and Christianity, and THEIR scripture?


Dictionary,
provenance = =
1 the place of origin or earliest known history of something.
2 a record of ownership of a work of art or an antique.





n.b.
What does ISLAM portray, about itself [in relation to Judaism, and Christianity]?


To the uninformed [non-moslem], ISLAM deceitfully portrays presents itself, as a continuation of Judaism and Christianity.
.....this is a lie.


Moslems try to deceitfully convey an assurance [to uninformed non-moslems], that ISLAM has a common spiritual heritage, with Judaism and Christianity.
.....this is a lie.


It is a fact that devout moslems always portray ISLAM, to other moslems, NOT as an equal co-existing religion, or even as a religion which 'evolved' from Judaism or Christianity,

Rather, devout moslems assert that ISLAM is at the same time, both a replacement of, and a *repudiation* of, Judaism and Christianity.


The fact is that moslems are taught by their religion, to have an enmity [hatred] for all Jews and all Christians.



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Re: Islam is BORING
Reply #29 - Oct 13th, 2009 at 9:43am
 
Yadda wrote on Oct 13th, 2009 at 9:17am:
n.b.
What does ISLAM portray, about itself [in relation to Judaism, and Christianity]?


To the uninformed [non-moslem], ISLAM deceitfully portrays presents itself, as a continuation of Judaism and Christianity.
.....this is a lie.


Moslems try to deceitfully convey an assurance [to uninformed non-moslems], that ISLAM has a common spiritual heritage, with Judaism and Christianity.
.....this is a lie.







The fact is, that ISLAM is a false religion, with a false prophet, for a false people.
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