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Palestinian land?
Nov 9th, 2009 at 10:28am
 

'Palestinian' land?



abu,

Could you answer some basic questions about the country of Palestine:

1. When was it founded and by whom?
2. What language did the Palestinians speak?
3. What writing [script] did they use?
4. What manuscripts did they leave?
5. What was their religion?
6. Where are their temples?
7. What monuments attest to their existence?
8. What were its borders?
9. What was the name of its capital?
10. What were its major cities?
11. What constituted the basis of its economy?
12. What was the name of the currency that they used?
13. What was its form of government?
14. What achievements have they accomplished?
15. What other peoples did Palestine interact with?
16. Where can one find any [historic] records, wherein the country of Palestine and its people are mentioned?
17. What archaeological sites can one name?
18. Where can one find the recorded history of these people?
19. Whom did they conquer?, or, were conquered by?
20. Was Palestine ever recognized by a country whose existence, at that time or now, leaves no room for interpretation [or doubt]?
21. What was the prevalent religion of the country of Palestine?
22. Can anyone name at least five Palestinian leaders before Arafat?
23. Finally, since there is no such recognised country today, what caused its demise and when did it occur?

Further, why did these proud 'Palestinians' between 1948 and 1967, passively, allow themselves to be occupied by the Jordanians in the 'West Bank', and by the Egyptians in Gaza?

And then, only after 1967, why did these 'Palestinians' suddenly determine that they too, must be an independent nation?


The Q's  above, are sourced from,

Part 142 - Palestine and Palestinians

www.YOUTUBE.com/watch?v=ciUb9wSkbnE



TRUTH

Part 072 - Promised Land in the Quran

www.YOUTUBE.com/watch?v=cS__tSFa4hc

Part 146A - Two States - Israel and Palestine

www.YOUTUBE.com/watch?v=_-HkGLs-KVU

Part 146B - Two States - Israel and Palestine

www.YOUTUBE.com/watch?v=-tpcPbZ9NM0

Part 146C - Two States - Israel and Palestine

www.YOUTUBE.com/watch?v=WOg5_qUsS10



Enmity for Israel / Jews on display,
Muslims, "...know that they are muslims, and know who their enemies are"
Muslim Sesame Street V - Pepsi Cola, the Apes, Pigs and Jews

www.YOUTUBE.com/watch?v=nhbHVEGnYD8

Farewell Israel

www.YOUTUBE.com/watch?v=a-IwwfeLp4M





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"Palestinian land" = = 'The East Bank',
and 'The East Bank' = = Jordan

Period.


Q.
If ALL of the worlds media, under prompting from 'Palestinians', refer to Judea and Samaria as 'The West Bank', then why don't Jordanians, and for that matter the 'Palestinians', properly refer to Jordan, as 'The East Bank'?

Consider,
Even the name,
'Judea'
, itself, reveals that the Jewish people have an ancient, proper, and legitimate claim to that land.






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Further,
You may wish to read Psalms 83,
www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Psa/Psa083.html#top

and Ezekiel 35,
www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Eze&c=35

and Ezekiel 36:5 ,
those bible texts speak *directly* to those ppl who call themselves 'Palestinians',


In the context of Psalms 83, and Ezekiel 35,
Idumea = = Edom = = Jordan = = 'Palestinians'



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Re: Palestinian land?
Reply #1 - Nov 9th, 2009 at 11:21am
 
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Could you answer some basic questions about the country of Palestine:


Yadda, most of this nonsense has already been refuted several times by myself on these forums. Your childish insistence on continuing to ramble about them is really a sad reflection on your mental capacity.

You, like most ignorant Zionists, are trying to play on the word 'country' and mistake it for nation or state. No 'country' of Palestine existed, much like no country of Cumberland exists either, that doesn't mean that residents of the Cumberland Plain (ie. Sydney) do not own their homes, their land and their status as a people.

In fact the word Palestine was not even really used by the people of that area, until the British Mandate of Palestine, when the British renamed the area Palestine (from the Bible). That doesn't detract from their ownership of their homes, lands, cities, villages etc. one iota though. Likewise there was no Lebanon, Jordan etc. all these names too come from the Bible. It's really all irrelevant, and does not detract from the position of those who today call themselves Palestinians in the least. Except in the mind of a simpleton who wants to twist and play with words.

If you wanna go back 2000 years and more, sure we can find references to Kingdoms known as Israel and even Filistia (ie. Palestine), has little relevance to people today who've got homes and families there, or who've been shoved into refugee camps.

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Further, why did these proud 'Palestinians' between 1948 and 1967, passively, allow themselves to be occupied by the Jordanians in the 'West Bank', and by the Egyptians in Gaza?


Wouldn't it be obvious to anyone with half a splattering of grey matter in his cranium that it's because they were all part of the same empire/state prior to the arrival of the invaders (British and Jews)???

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And then, only after 1967, why did these 'Palestinians' suddenly determine that they too, must be an independent nation?


Since I don't believe they should be an independant nation, there's no need for me to answer that. All Muslims must be reunited as one single nation.

Your argument is really quite juvenile.
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Reply #2 - Nov 9th, 2009 at 11:31am
 
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If ALL of the worlds media, under prompting from 'Palestinians', refer to Judea and Samaria as 'The West Bank'


The fact is the terms West Bank & Gaza Strip are Western constructs, used to refer to the two big open air refugee camps the people of Palestine got herded into. They are not Arabic terms at all. For the 1250 odd years that it's been our land, no such names existed. So I hardly think Palestinians are prompting anyone to use such terms.

Yadda, the Muslims won't be forgetting their land anytime soon. So you can play Biblical fantasy lands all you like, but in the end it will be nothing but grief for you and your comrades for centuries to come. Learn from your predecessors, the Crusaders, and their expedition to Palestine 1000 years ago. Don't make their same mistakes... because that's exactly what's happening. You cannot win, period.

But if you're prepared for that chaos and turmoil, which I think you are, as you think it's some Biblical destiny for there to be an apocalyptic battle at the end times, and this is what you're hopinh to usher in, so the "Messiah" will return for you... You are the war mongers. You are the aggressors, you are the evil and wicked ones who breed iniquity and promote it for all the world! You are symbolised by the gay pride parades that you now infest the holy land with.... And you will be punished for your iniquity! Prepare.
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Reply #3 - Nov 9th, 2009 at 11:49am
 
abu_rashid wrote on Nov 9th, 2009 at 11:31am:
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You cannot win, period.


But if you're prepared for that chaos and turmoil, which I think you are, as you think it's some Biblical destiny for there to be an apocalyptic battle at the end times, and this is what you're hopinh to usher in, so the "Messiah" will return for you... You are the war mongers. You are the aggressors, you are the evil and wicked ones who breed iniquity and promote it for all the world! You are symbolised by the gay pride parades that you now infest the holy land with....
And you will be punished for your iniquity! Prepare.



Yes, we can see that the writing on the wall abu!!

"Allah Akbar!!!  Allah Akbar!!!  Allah Akbar!!! .....BANG!  BANG!  BANG!  BANG!  BANG! ",
.....late, from one of Allah's finest, Fort Hood, USA.



And Iran's President Ahmadinejad has warned us all...

"The ocean of rage of the people of the region will surge and eradicate the Zionist regime."


Farewell Israel

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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