Australian Politics Forum - Men and women..

The Mole

Gold Member

Offline

http://www.ozpolitic
.co/album/forum-atta
chments/y

Posts: 1499
Gender: female

Men and women..
Nov 24^th, 2009 at 10:48am

Are men still chivalrous and respectful to women/females, do they essentially respect women for who they are - Or do they project the media sterotypes here..ie: hoes and bitches, pole dancers,strippers,hookers with glass heels etc..onto everyday women?

Have women lost something important due to men being bombarded with constant negative and insulting steroetyping of females..that something being the respect of men. ?

Some guys are drawing their impressions of women thru media imaging/speak..and do they really internalise this sh.it or is it more teenage boys /very immature males?

For the most part is the same happening to men , are we drawing our impressions about men based on media representation?

Even tho I find the sterotyping of males to be presented in a way that makes them more dangerous/smooth player/bad boy etc..this could simply be because it is men who control the media..and want to project this cool/romantic notion of themselves

I think Johnny Depp/Jack Sparrow is cute in a drunken piratey kind of way , but would he make a good partner etc. I dont think so.

But he is cute and a bit of a bad arse and thats the point I guess..women love him, he will sell a ticket or two.

First impressions are based on these raunchy images constantly projected into the homes of teenagers and which they soak this crap up like a sponge..they walk the walk and talk the talk..dont tell me they dont, I see it everywhere..little Beyonces/Lady Ga Gas..and P.Diddy, kanye West is so gangsta he is smchoozes past me everyday dressed immaculately right down to his Michael Jackson flats and Fedora...

That said I dont think mens image is so badly tarnished by media..and thats not surprising, since its a male dominated world we live in..

thoughts..

Back to top

« Last Edit: Nov 24^th, 2009 at 11:32am by The Mole »

"Why Johnny Ringo, you look like someone just walked over your grave"

IP Logged

Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40763 Gender:	Re: Men and women.. Reply #1 - Nov 24^th, 2009 at 12:43pm thoughts, women used to be almost ......... revered and many lived an enviable life. Stay at home with kids. Now many have Skankback tatts.
Back to top	Modern Classic Right Wing IP Logged

Darwin Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1037	Re: Men and women.. Reply #2 - Nov 24^th, 2009 at 9:50pm WTF Auzgurl/Oceans/Virago I won't give up a seat on a crowded bus to a healthy young Ms But, shee-it, I do not think of them as pole dancers etc! FFS!
Back to top	IP Logged

The Mole

Gold Member

Offline

http://www.ozpolitic
.co/album/forum-atta
chments/y

Posts: 1499
Gender: female

Re: Men and women..
Reply #3 - Nov 25^th, 2009 at 9:29am

lol Darwin, that was just for purposes of balance ( missed by a wide margin I see)..I guess over the top but I thought most would get what I meant, but obviously not..

I just want to know if in mens/womens eyes women/men have been damaged by stereotypes , my way of introducing that may have been lacking in the OP.

Poor Sprint tried to answer and only came up with the backtatt thing and so I guess he too was confused..and I will reword the OP when I have a min.

nice try anyway and thank you both..

Back to top

« Last Edit: Nov 25^th, 2009 at 9:40am by The Mole »

"Why Johnny Ringo, you look like someone just walked over your grave"

IP Logged

Soren

Gold Member

Offline

Posts: 25654
Gender: male

Re: Men and women..
Reply #4 - Nov 25^th, 2009 at 11:54pm

The Mole wrote on Nov 24^th, 2009 at 10:48am:

Are men still chivalrous and respectful to women/females, do they essentially respect women for who they are - Or do they project the media sterotypes here..ie: hoes and bitches, pole dancers,strippers,hookers with glass heels etc..onto everyday women?

thoughts..

Are men still chivalrous and respectful to women/females? Yes, as long as men and women continue to want the opposite of what the other wants - men wanting women, women men.

But when they start wanting the same things, then it just becomes the closest thing to communicating with aliens, too often culminating in 'F... off, ET" (I paraphrase).

Back to top

IP Logged

Sprintcyclist

Gold Member

Offline

OzPolitic

Posts: 40763
Gender: male

Re: Men and women..
Reply #5 - Nov 30^th, 2009 at 9:34am

Skank alert .........

Quote:

THE woman at the centre of South Australia's political sex scandal has fled to Queensland, revealing she wants to reunite with her estranged husband.

In Michelle Chantelois' first interview since she aired allegations that she had an affair with South Australian Premier Mike Rann, she has revealed she came to Queensland with her 11-year-old son to protect him from the gossip.

In the exclusive and unpaid interview, she also hit back at Mr Rann's denial of the affair and said she was not interested in sympathy, but just wanted her story told so she could move on with her life.

She believes that Mr Rann has been trying to imply she made the story up for money, falsely making her out to be a "shattered, wretched woman".

Mr Rann has denied having sex with her.

But Ms Chantelois said she was determined to set the record straight about what she described as an ongoing affair involving meetings at Adelaide's Parliament House, the Premier's house, in a car and at Adelaide Central Market. She revealed further details of the alleged affair, and said she hoped to reconcile with estranged husband Rick Phillips, who allegedly struck Mr Rann with a magazine because he suspected the affair.

Ms Chantelois also said:

• She only spoke publicly about the affair because rumours started circulating and wanted the truth to be heard, and she was not paid "anywhere near" a reported $200,000 for interviews with Channel 7 and New Idea.

• She has no political connections and that no one pressured her to speak about the alleged affair.

• That Mr Rann told her to tell her husband they were friends as a cover story.

Mr Rann insists he was just friends with Ms Chantelois but that they have had no contact for four years. She says: "Friends stay in touch . . . lovers don't make contact once the affair has ended."

She claimed she had sex with Mr Rann in his Parliamentary office, including when Parliament was sitting, and that they were "intimate" in a car parked near a golf course.

Mr Rann said there was a "whole series of things that were said . . . that are totally, absolutely false".

A spokeswoman for Mr Rann emphasised the Premier was pursuing defamation action and "has no intention of dignifying these repeat allegations with a reply".

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,26418301-953,00.html

Back to top

Modern Classic Right Wing

IP Logged

mozzaok

Gold Member

Offline

OzPolitic

Posts: 6741
Melbourne
Gender: male

Re: Men and women..
Reply #6 - Nov 30^th, 2009 at 10:07am

Money, money, money.

Some say the relationship may have started off something like this.

"If I gave you a million dollars, would you have sex with me?"

'Ummh? OK.'

"Great, well heres fifty bucks, let's go."

'What do you think I am?'

"We have already established that, now we are just haggling over the price."

Wink

I could not help but feel a tinge of sadness for poor Dr E while seeing highlights of the weekend's big society event, if only the laser surgey had worked, he could have got so much more for his money.

Back to top

OOPS!!! My Karma, ran over your Dogma!

IP Logged

mantra

Gold Member

Offline

ozpolitic.com

Posts: 10750
Gender: female

Re: Men and women..
Reply #7 - Dec 1^st, 2009 at 8:26am

Quote:

I could not help but feel a tinge of sadness for poor Dr E while seeing highlights of the weekend's big society event, if only the laser surgey had worked, he could have got so much more for his money.

I can't believe he's still around and the laser surgery must have worked. He has to be about 150 by now, yet he only looks about 70. Where does he get his energy? His money would have to be buying him hormones.

Back to top

IP Logged

Amadd

Gold Member

Offline

Mo

Posts: 6217

Re: Men and women..
Reply #8 - Dec 4^th, 2009 at 1:09am

Quote:

Are men still chivalrous and respectful to women/females, do they essentially respect women for who they are

No, that would be disrespectful wouldn't it?

Men must treat women as their equals, therefore they must compete with them as they do their male counterparts. This means being disresctful at every turn, otherwise it would be disrespectful to women to treat them differently wouldn't it?
And btw, there's still a lot of blood and guts that needs to be spilled to catch up with men's sacrifices, so you go girl and start some wars.
Us blokes will be sitting on the couch watching it on TV. We may even sit some OGO on the shelf and bag a few female Yankee soldiers that travel to our shores. That'd be nice

Back to top

IP Logged

The Mole

Gold Member

Offline

http://www.ozpolitic
.co/album/forum-atta
chments/y

Posts: 1499
Gender: female

Re: Men and women..
Reply #9 - Dec 5^th, 2009 at 11:12am

Amadd wrote on Dec 4^th, 2009 at 1:09am:

Quote:

Are men still chivalrous and respectful to women/females, do they essentially respect women for who they are

No, that would be disrespectful wouldn't it?

Men must treat women as their equals, therefore they must compete with them as they do their male counterparts. This means being disresctful at every turn, otherwise it would be disrespectful to women to treat them differently wouldn't it?
And btw, there's still a lot of blood and guts that needs to be spilled to catch up with men's sacrifices, so you go girl and start some wars.
Us blokes will be sitting on the couch watching it on TV. We may even sit some OGO on the shelf and bag a few female Yankee soldiers that travel to our shores. That'd be nice

OGO ? I could Google it I guess.. Cool

Mens sacrifices ,er mention one or two just to clue me in maddy..sacrfices like going to war, yes that I understand..but out here its a level playing field in so much as we control our environment by our actions that largely effect outcomes relating to our selves, so Im not sure exactly what 'sacfrices' you mean..

Could you elaborate for me ..?

Then we can discuss, if you still want to.

I suspect I know where you were going with this and in that case I mostly agree...but still not that clear

Im not into yankee female soldiers, the males are very nice tho'.

Back to top

"Why Johnny Ringo, you look like someone just walked over your grave"

IP Logged

Amadd

Gold Member

Offline

Mo

Posts: 6217

Re: Men and women..
Reply #10 - Dec 5^th, 2009 at 7:27pm

I dot think you'll find OGO (Old Girl Overseas), but you might find OMO which supposedly meant "Old Man Out" or "Old Man Overseas" during WW2.

Fair enough, you don't get so many maimings and deaths from wars and industry anymore, but there were sacrifices made. Not that women haven't also sacrificed in many ways, but I think you'll find that most women would not be prepared to go back to those days and take on the roles that the men did back then. If it came down to it, men would have no choice but to do the same again.

I think it's a bit silly to expect equality in all walks of life, or equality jsut when it suits.

Back to top

IP Logged

Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Men and women.. Reply #11 - Aug 6^th, 2010 at 10:50am
Back to top	IP Logged

Equitist Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9632 NSW	Re: Men and women.. Reply #12 - Aug 6^th, 2010 at 10:58am LOL...priceless!
Back to top	Lamenting the shift in the Australian psyche, away from the egalitarian ideal of the fair-go - and the rise of short-sighted pollies, who worship the 'Growth Fairy' and seek to divide and conquer! IP Logged

...

Gold Member

Offline

Posts: 23673
WA
Gender: male

Re: Men and women..
Reply #13 - Aug 6^th, 2010 at 11:10am

Maybe the roles aren't so clera cut as they used to be, but I doubt that will last.

One thing the rabid feminists overlloked in their quest for 'equality' is that men and women are very different...two sides of a coin.

To expect both sexes to play exactly the same role can never work, as the fundamental differences in our make up won't allow it.

But it matters little I guess, as we will seek out partners complementary to ourselves....if a woman acts masculine, she will seek out an effeminate partner...you can't have 2 'alphas' in a realtionship.

Back to top

In the fullness of time...

IP Logged

Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40763 Gender:	Re: Men and women.. Reply #14 - Aug 6^th, 2010 at 11:19am soren - excellent !!!!!!!!!!!
Back to top	Modern Classic Right Wing IP Logged