Ares Abani wrote on May 5^th, 2013 at 9:24pm:


Um because it wasn't? Perhaps you can prove to me that by "cultural differences" the judge meant "islamic" culture.

polite_gandalf wrote on May 5^th, 2013 at 9:32pm:


The Pakistani gang rapists tried to use the same cultural defence in court,like Afghanistan they are about 99% muslim.

My story is a real life event that was published in aussie papers, if you know how to hit the back page button you can see where that darling person yadda posted a link to this story so it can be verified as 100% true.

I find it extremly offensive that you would dare to accuse me of making this up. It is sad as hell that this story is true and you should feel shame based on the fact that it is true and a disgrace to women, western cultural, and our LAWS!

Now if you would be so kind as to stop making up stories and excuses for islamic culture( as written in their Bible and followed by their laws)then this topic would be resolved and it duly noted that muslims/islamic culture does indeed consider rape proper and their laws are geared towards the rapist being a fine outstanding fellow doing his duty by raping or beating women.

Muslim Rapist Wins Court Appeal Citing 'Cultural Differences'


Esmatullah Sharifi, 31, is an Afghan refugee who was given asylum in Australia and settled in Melbourne.

He was convicted of two counts of rape and given a 14 year non parole sentence.

The first rape was of an intoxicated teenager who had been separated from her friends outside a nightclub. Sharifi admitted driving around looking for a victim.

When he saw the victim, he pulled up, began talking to her and offered to drive her to the hotel where her friends had moved on to.

Then he drove off in a completely different direction. The teen became frightened and and texted her friends, but when Sharifi saw what she was doing, he took away her phone, drove to a dark, isolated street, put his hands around her neck and forced her to remove her clothes before raping her.

The second case involved a similar abduction and sexual assault of a woman on Christmas Eve, 2008, five days after Sharifi raped the teen.

The judge, Mark Dean in Melbourne, sentenced Sharif to 14 years of which he's going to have to serve a minumum of 11 years. He will likely be deported back to Afghanistan when he's served his sentence.

Except he may not serve his sentence at all.

He's been granted an appeal.

Sharifi's chief argument during his rape trials was that 'cultural differences' were responsible for the rapes and that, as a psychologist told the court he had an 'unclear concept of what constitutes consent in sexual relationships'.

Apparently this psychologist thinks kidnapping someone, forcing them to disrobe and then raping them while they're screaming 'no, no' is how dating is done is Afghanistan. Perhaps it is. At any rate, the courts have granted him an appeal on that basis.

The funny thing is that Sharifi's argument actually has some legitimacy, although it's no excuse for his actions.

As a product of Muslim culture, there is definitely a basis for Sharifi saying he's allowed to rape  non-Muslim women.

The Qu'ran is most definite that owning and using sex slaves is permissible:

If you fear that you will not act justly towards the orphans, marry such women as seem good to you, two, three, four; but if you fear you will not be equitable, then only one, or what your right hands owns; so it is likelier you will not be partial. (Qur'an 4:3)

This, along with Mohammed's conduct as recorded in the Hadiths is the basis for Muslim polygamy.Mohammed took numerous sex slaves, in some cases after they had seen their parents or husbands murdered in front of them. Hence 'orphans'.

'What your right hand owns' refers to war captives and sex slaves, and every major Islamic fiqh has interpreted it in that way. Here's Qu'rannic commentator Maulana Bulandshahri on the subject:

During Jihad (religion war), many men and women become war captives. The Amirul Mu’minin [leader of the believers, or caliph – an office now vacant] has the choice of distributing them amongst the Mujahidin [warriors of jihad], in which event they will become the property of these Mujahidin. This enslavement is the penalty for disbelief (kufr)

Notice the present tense, 'become' as opposed to 'became'. This view applies today and has never been abrogated in any way.

Moreover, since a number of prominent Islamic scholars and Qadis like the Muslim Brotherhood's Sheik Qaradawi and Egypt's Sheikh Abu-Ishaq al-Huwayni have declared that Muslims are waging jihad against Dar Harb, the infidel world in our present day, any infidel females a Muslim's 'right hand possesses are fair game:

.Jihad is only between Muslims and infidels….Spoils, slaves, and prisoners are only to be taken in war between Muslims and infidels. Muslims in the past conquered, invaded, and took over countries. This is agreed to by all scholars--there is no disagreement on this from any of them, from the smallest to the largest, on the issue of taking spoils and prisoners. The prisoners and spoils are distributed among the fighters, which includes men, women, children, wealth, and so on.

When a slave market is erected, which is a market in which are sold slaves and sex-slaves, which are called in the Qur’an by the name milk al-yamin, “that which your right hands possess” [Qur’an 4:24]. This is a verse from the Qur’an which is still in force, and has not been abrogated. The milk al-yamin are the sex-slaves. You go to the market, look at the sex-slave, and buy her. She becomes like your wife, (but) she doesn’t need a (marriage) contract or a divorce like a free woman, nor does she need a wali. All scholars agree on this point--there is no disagreement from any of them. [...] When I want a sex slave, I just go to the market and choose the woman I like and purchase her.

(h/t, Jihad Watch)

Of course, it can even apply to Muslims if you have cooperative imams to declare them kufrs, non-believers. Just ask Muslim Bangladeshi women about the rape camps the Pakistani Army set up for them during the 1970's.

Even in Australia itself, Sheikh Taj Din al-Hilali, Australia most senior Muslim cleric excused Muslim gang rapists in Australia saying that women who chose not to cover themselves were asking to be raped, referring to them as 'uncovered meat'. Even many decent Muslims objected to that one and called for al-Hilali's deportation, but he has a lot of support from others and is still there.

So when Sharifi says that as a Muslim, he's allowed to 'own' and use Kufr women as he pleas

I suppose it is cultural differences that leads you not to realize that a judge is the one that grants appeals and even in your link it sites cultural differences being the grounds for the appeal..pfff ..and since he was raised a muslim OMG what a shocker it is muslims cultural differences he is whinning about.

O never fear, gandalf, I know a man like you would not be at all taken back by offending a woman with your inane views!

Ares Abani wrote on May 5^th, 2013 at 11:37pm:


What? Where did he say that? Nowhere did Sharifi himself argue muslim cultural differences, and nowhere did the judge cite muslim cultural differences as the reason for granting the appeal. You're just making sh!t up Ares.