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Jan 31st, 2010 at 11:08pm
 
Afghan Men Struggle With Sexual Identity, Study Finds

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An unclassified study from a military research unit in southern Afghanistan details how homosexual behavior is unusually common among men in the large ethnic group known as Pashtuns -- though they seem to be in complete denial about it.

As if U.S. troops and diplomats didn't have enough to worry about in trying to understand Afghan culture, a new report suggests an entire region in the country is coping with a sexual identity crisis.

An unclassified study from a military research unit in southern Afghanistan details how homosexual behavior is unusually common among men in the large ethnic group known as Pashtuns -- though they seem to be in complete denial about it.

The study, obtained by Fox News, found that Pashtun men commonly have sex with other men, admire other men physically, have sexual relationships with boys and shun women both socially and sexually -- yet they completely reject the label of "homosexual." The research was conducted as part of a longstanding effort to better understand Afghan culture and improve Western interaction with the local people.

The research unit, which was attached to a Marine battalion in southern Afghanistan, acknowledged that the behavior of some Afghan men has left Western forces "frequently confused."

The report details the bizarre interactions a U.S. Army medic and her colleagues had with Afghan men in the southern province of Kandahar.

In one instance, a group of local male interpreters had contracted gonorrhea anally but refused to believe they could have contracted it sexually -- "because they were not homosexuals."

Apparently, according to the report, Pashtun men interpret the Islamic prohibition on homosexuality to mean they cannot "love" another man -- but that doesn't mean they can't use men for "sexual gratification."

The group of interpreters who had contracted gonorrhea joked in the camp that they actually got the disease by "mixing green and black tea." But since they refused to heed the medics' warnings, many of them re-contracted the disease after receiving treatment.

The U.S. army medic also told members of the research unit that she and her colleagues had to explain to a local man how to get his wife pregnant.

The report said: "When it was explained to him what was necessary, he reacted with disgust and asked, 'How could one feel desire to be with a woman, who God has made unclean, when one could be with a man, who is clean? Surely this must be wrong.'"


The Pashtun populations are concentrated in the southern and eastern parts of the country. The Human Terrain Team that conducted the research is part of a military effort to learn more about local populations.

The report also detailed a disturbing practice in which older "men of status" keep young boys on hand for sexual relationships. One of the country's favorite sayings, the report said, is "women are for children, boys are for pleasure."

The report concluded that the widespread homosexual behavior stems from several factors, including the "severe segregation" of women in the society and the "prohibitive" cost of marriage.

Though U.S. troops are commonly taught in training for Afghanistan that the "effeminate characteristics" of Pashtun men are "normal" and not an indicator of homosexuality, the report said U.S. forces should not "dismiss" the unique version of homosexuality that is actually practiced in the region "out of desire to avoid western discomfort."

Otherwise, the report said, Westerners could "risk failing to comprehend an essential social force underlying Pashtun culture."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/01/28/afghan-men-struggle-sexual-identity-study-finds/
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Reply #1 - Feb 1st, 2010 at 8:18am
 

muslim men struggle with sexual identity
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Reply #2 - Feb 1st, 2010 at 10:31am
 
Christian clergy appear to have the same problem.
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Reply #3 - Feb 1st, 2010 at 10:47am
 

some are paeds and should be in jail

not sure if that is a 'struggle with their sexuality", sure is one society disagrees with
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Reply #4 - Feb 1st, 2010 at 11:00am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 1st, 2010 at 10:47am:
some are paeds and should be in jail

not sure if that is a 'struggle with their sexuality", sure is one society disagrees with

Many priests and pastors struggle with their sexual identity and the vast majority do not go on to commit crimes against children.
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Reply #5 - Feb 1st, 2010 at 11:11am
 

and this is from your own research helian ?

i'ld imagine not being married is bad for a bloke.
the bible says priests etc SHOULD be married to a single woman.
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Reply #6 - Feb 1st, 2010 at 11:28am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 1st, 2010 at 11:11am:
and this is from your own research helian ?

i'ld imagine not being married is bad for a bloke.
the bible says priests etc SHOULD be married to a single woman.

Sprint, I was born and raised in an ardent Irish Catholic family. Many decent priests were personal friends of my family. As my siblings and I got older and "put away childish things", the issue of sexuality was discussed by priests more inclined to be frank about the issues, and yes many priests struggled with their identity.

If perhaps you'd like to research it, Sprint, read up on the living arrangements within monasteries. You may read on the sleeping arrangements where young priests/monks were accommodated away from each other.
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Reply #7 - Feb 1st, 2010 at 11:58am
 

ah, good helian - so it is from your own research.

yes, I'ld think to be "seperated" from women would be weird for a mens sexuality.
unnatural.

the bible says preists etc SHOULD be married, for some reason kafflicks disagree on this one.
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Reply #8 - Feb 1st, 2010 at 12:02pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 1st, 2010 at 11:58am:
ah, good helian - so it is from your own research.

Are you intending to imply that your many comments on numerous issues here are all based on your own research, Sprint?
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Reply #9 - Feb 1st, 2010 at 12:06pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 1st, 2010 at 11:58am:
yes, I'ld think to be "seperated" from women would be weird for a mens sexuality.
unnatural.

the bible says preists etc SHOULD be married, for some reason kafflicks disagree on this one.

Celibacy is a common enough occurrence in religion to determine that it is not a peculiarity of Catholicism. Ascetic Hindu Sadhus practise it along with Buddhist monks.
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Reply #10 - Feb 1st, 2010 at 12:16pm
 

i agree, i also think it does little good, esp if .... expected.
as what religions do do
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Reply #11 - Feb 1st, 2010 at 12:22pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 1st, 2010 at 12:16pm:
i agree, i also think it does little good, esp if .... expected.
as what religions do do

It is not for frivolous reasons that celibacy is practised but to heighten the practitioner's capacity for self-abnegation. Unfortunately it can also be dangerous sexually.
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Reply #12 - Feb 1st, 2010 at 12:42pm
 

if celebacy is voluntarily chosen, as in the case of ghandi I believe, well and good.
If it is ...... enforced or used as a sign of ones "superior spirituality", it's detrimental I beleve.
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Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 1st, 2010 at 12:42pm:
if celebacy is voluntarily chosen, as in the case of ghandi I believe, well and good.
If it is ...... enforced or used as a sign of ones "superior spirituality", it's detrimental I beleve.

Isn't it always voluntarily chosen Sprint? Unless you're locked away against your will.

It should never be a sign of superior spirituality... That would be an instance of the sin of pride (arrogance) which all religious traditions would regard as negative.

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Reply #14 - Feb 1st, 2010 at 1:47pm
 

i don't think it is voluntarily chosen at all.

It should never be seen as a banner of ones "sopiritual superiority", but it is often flown as such.
This is not a new thing, there have always been "religious snobs" who look down on "nonreligious" people.

eg, those that boast of going to church every week, visiting mecca every 3 years ...................
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