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LOL.   I knew there was reason I steered clear of cereal.

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I suspected you were a despicable Corn flakes eater! Off with your head infidel! The only acceptable cereal is Just Right.

That is a very inaccurate view of Islam, seriously. You have no idea mozza, and the problem is you're not interested in knowing. You've got your little opinion formed already that Islam is "exactly like Christianity, 1000 years ago, or maybe worse". It's not based on your actual knowledge of Islam, it's based purely on your subscribing to stereotypes you've read about, and filling in the gaps by assuming Islam is much the same as Christianity in everything else.

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Then you cannot claim at the same time that it is the absolute truth. Just because you think it's the correct one, doesn't make it The truth. It is the truth for you, and that's where it ends.

abu_rashid wrote on Mar 15^th, 2010 at 11:21pm:


Double standard and hypocrasy is the currency of western governments going back to the early days of the Roman Empire.
Nothing has changed on that score I'm afraid.
However I suspect it is not just Western nations that practice duplicity in 2010.
But what is really interesting is the expectation by many that Israel should not respond to violent acts carried out against it's citizens, when the same expectation is not demanded of all other countries.
What else is interesting is the level of scrutiny that is placed upon Israel over it's response to Gaza and Lebanese terrorism, but no such scrutiny is ever placed upon the treatment of Palestinians in Muslim nations.
Israel's civilian casualty scorecard after Operation Cast Lead remains only a tiny fraction of the casualties inflicted by Jordan during the Black September massacres of the early 1970's against the Palestinians, but that inconvenient truth is mainly forgotten today.
In fact, all the Palestinian casualties that have occured in the region since 1948 that have been attributed to Israel compare nothing to the Jordanians kill ratio of the early 1970's.
However, the highly discriminatory treatment of Lebanon of Palestinian workers even today goes mainly unreported, as if the equivalent treatment in Israel of these people would ever pass muster in the worlds media.
Turkey's recent dog and pony show over the deaths of those 9 Jihadi's on the Mavi Marmara recently means what when one mentions three words to the Turks.
Cyprus, Kurds & Armenians.
Why does Turkey have such an issue whilst they slaughter so many people themselves.
Would the Turks appreciate Israeli interference in Turkish domestic politics?
The Iraqi deportation last year of hundreds of Palestinians, the Saudi's use of Palestinian labor is little better than that of slaves, and the Egyptians happily shoot them.
The Lebanese marginalise the Palestinian locals by the heavy restriction of employment opportunities available to them.
The Palestinians are treated as the lepers of the Muslim world, which is ok as long as it's not the Israeli's doing it.

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Agreed 101%. The traiterous regimes in the Arab world should be more of a priority than Israel, but you must also keep in mind those regimes exist as an extension of Israel. They were put into power to maintain Israel's security, so the fact they should be addressed first does not mean Israel should not be address.

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Because it isn't.

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That's precisely why it's not the problem.

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So it's not believing your own religion to be the absolute truth which is the problem, it's believing other religions' adherents to be "minions of the ultimate evil" which is the problem.

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Come on you'd really have to be just a little historically naive to believe this.

Those regimes were setup to maintain the security of Israel. The mock wars were nothing but a facade to delude the region's inhabitants into believing the Zionist entity was invincible.

From day 1 (and before actually) nations like Jordan (the only half-decent trained military involved) was commanded by the British (ie. the same people who setup Israel). It was a sham war.

Here is the list of the top 10 commanders of the 'Arab' legion during the 1948 war:

Top commander of the Arab Legion: Major General John Bagot Glubb (Central command)
Field commander: Brigadier Norman Lash
First Brigade: Colonel Desmond Goldie (Nablus Military Zone)
First Regiment: Lt. Colonel H.C. Blackden (Nablus Military Zone)
Third regiment: Colonel William Newman
Second Brigade: Brigadier Sam Sidney Arthur Cooke (Support force)
Fifth Regiment: Major James Hawkin (Support)
Sixth Regiment: Major Abdullah el Tell (Jerusalem Military Zone)
Third Brigade: Colonel Teel Ashton (Ramallah Military Zone)
Second Regiment: Major R. Slade (Ramallah Military Zone)

Only 1 Arab amongst them...

It's quite clear the war was a sham, and even if it wasn't, then it's more of a damning indictment against the British than it is against the Arabs, since they quite obviously were the ones directing it.

But Islam doesn't teach that.

It teaches Jews and Christians for instance were rightly guided, but have merely gone astray.

If anything it is they that teach this about Islam.

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No Abu...
The belief that only 'your' religion is 'True' is the single cause of the problem....

The belief that 'your' religion is the ONLY truth, AND that all other religions are the 'Work of the Devil( or the ultimate evil)'....Is the reason that religions fight, or  argue.....



abu_rashid wrote on Aug 4^th, 2010 at 10:45pm:


Not sure how your comment get's you off Gizmo's hook, AR. If Islam is not denying that the other religions are true but saying that they've strayed off the path, then that isn't much better. You're still hoisted on Gizmo's diabolical hook.