Australian Politics Forum - China: Crunch Time

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Reply #45 - Apr 13^th, 2010 at 11:13pm

I believe that FD is right about financial incentives on individual level but at which stage of going from bottom to top do they start in China?
Also where do microeconomics become macro?

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China accounted for 8% of the world economy in 2009, while using 18% of global energy, 44% of steel and 53% of cement, according to the Economic Planning Agency. Pollution surged as China's economy more than tripled in the past decade, spurring concerns that a deteriorating environment may lead to social unrest. Premier Wen Jiabao has called the country's pollution situation "grim" and pledged to limit emissions from coal-powered generators, cement and steel producers and to ensure water quality. The National Development and Reform Commission and the Ministry of Commerce will meet next week to discuss the new regulations aimed at luring "good foreign companies" to invest in China. China doesn't welcome foreign companies that aren't energy efficient, says the Agency. But unless China can become more efficient in its use of resources, there will simply be a limit to the growth it can attain. And with the costs of pollution and environmental degradation mounting many see China's growth strategy as one of the most unsustainable in the world.

http://csr-asia.com/index.php?id=13531

Should Australia invest loooong term with China?

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Reply #46 - Apr 15^th, 2010 at 11:11am

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Should Australia invest loooong term with China?

For idiots, abundance reigns supreme.
China are not the idiots that the Indians are. India will hold some sway due to pure weight of numbers and the disrespect that they display in regards to the lives of their fellow countrymen.
We should not let Indians into this country. They are a different brand of dirty evil.

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Reply #47 - Apr 15^th, 2010 at 3:36pm

Soren wrote on Apr 12^th, 2010 at 10:40am:

China will be the first gay superpower:

Gendercide: China's shameful massacre of unborn girls means there will soon be 30m more men than women
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1265068/China-The-worlds-new-s...

I always did think there was something camp about these brightly coloured dancing dragons at Chinese New Year. Grin

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Reply #48 - Apr 18^th, 2010 at 7:02am

freediver wrote on Apr 13^th, 2010 at 7:07am:

Whatever their disincentives are for having more than one child, they should do the opposite for girls.

Allowing people who have a girl to have another child is also a good idea, but they shouldn't limit it to one.

Surely you cannot be serious, the fact that China has a gender imbalance is a good thing, and the fact that 30 million less women will be available for breeding, is a good thing.
A one child policy is a good thing.

Incentives for chinese, the largest mass of humans on the planet, to breed more, is freakin insane.

Now if we could get the indians to stop breeding like rabbits on viagra, then the world would be a better place.

The whole Brady Bunch ideal of big families is just an anachronistic ideal from a different era, where population pressures were not stretching every service to breaking point.
In this day and age, their should be a disincentive to having large families, especially in countries like china, and india, where population growth is becoming a global problem.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49476 At my desk.	Re: China: Crunch Time Reply #49 - Apr 18^th, 2010 at 8:37am I think China has their population well and truly under control.
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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: China: Crunch Time Reply #50 - Apr 18^th, 2010 at 9:33am freediver wrote on Apr 18^th, 2010 at 8:37am: I think China has their population well and truly under control. A nation of only-children... a nation of egos that have never known the moderating effect of sibling competition.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49476 At my desk.	Re: China: Crunch Time Reply #51 - Apr 18^th, 2010 at 10:11am Oh no! They are turning into greedy, selfish westerners!
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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: China: Crunch Time Reply #52 - Apr 18^th, 2010 at 10:16am freediver wrote on Apr 18^th, 2010 at 10:11am: Oh no! They are turning into greedy, selfish westerners! Oh no.... Much worse than that... Imagine the blind zeal of self-loathing that drove the Cultural Revolution, reversed, then expressed through the minds of 1 billion only-children.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49476 At my desk.	Re: China: Crunch Time Reply #53 - Apr 18^th, 2010 at 10:54am Imagine it flipped on it's head and rotated 45 degrees so that it becomes totally unrecognisable.
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Reply #54 - Apr 18^th, 2010 at 11:14am

freediver wrote on Apr 18^th, 2010 at 10:54am:

Imagine it flipped on it's head and rotated 45 degrees so that it becomes totally unrecognisable.

Imagine it as raw chauvinistic zeal magnified in a society with a manufactured psychology as a result of enforced single-child families. Has there ever been a society whose population naturally prefers a single child to multiple?

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49476 At my desk.	Re: China: Crunch Time Reply #55 - Apr 18^th, 2010 at 11:26am Quote: Has there ever been a society whose population naturally prefers a single child to multiple? Plenty. But for some reason they never lasted very long.
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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: China: Crunch Time Reply #56 - Apr 18^th, 2010 at 11:32am freediver wrote on Apr 18^th, 2010 at 11:26am: Quote: Has there ever been a society whose population naturally prefers a single child to multiple? Plenty. But for some reason they never lasted very long. Can you name some?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49476 At my desk.	Re: China: Crunch Time Reply #57 - Apr 18^th, 2010 at 1:26pm For example, there was the incredible shrinking tribe of the Amazon, that was not around long enough to make a name for itself.
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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: China: Crunch Time Reply #58 - Apr 18^th, 2010 at 3:33pm freediver wrote on Apr 18^th, 2010 at 1:26pm: For example, there was the incredible shrinking tribe of the Amazon, that was not around long enough to make a name for itself. Yep... them's the ones.
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: China: Crunch Time Reply #59 - Apr 18^th, 2010 at 6:30pm freediver wrote on Apr 18^th, 2010 at 10:11am: Oh no! They are turning into greedy, selfish westerners! Make that "greedy, selfish GAY westerners". They are killing girls, either by aborting them or by infanticide at a great rate, so in some regions boys comprise 70% of [primary school classes. Way to go.
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