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Reply #15 - Apr 2^nd, 2010 at 6:33pm

mantra wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2010 at 6:23pm:

tallowood wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2010 at 6:10pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 1^st, 2010 at 10:39pm:

It's obsessive and infantile to use a signature to malign and criticise another forum member.

It is also abusive and infantile to use a main body of msg to malign and criticise another forum member. It follows then that using a signature as a mirror to reflect an abuser ugliness back to him/her is a legitimate tool.

Tallow can you recall me being abusive to members here?

No, you are too sweet for that but I can recall others.

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: personal criticism in signatures Reply #16 - Apr 2^nd, 2010 at 7:28pm I think it's bad practice, but if people stoop to using their signatures for that purpose, their own reputation within the online community will suffer. I subscribe to the 'give them enough rope' policy.
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Reply #17 - Apr 2^nd, 2010 at 9:05pm

tallowood wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2010 at 6:21pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2010 at 6:12pm:

tallowood wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2010 at 6:10pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 1^st, 2010 at 10:39pm:

It's obsessive and infantile to use a signature to malign and criticise another forum member.

It is also abusive and infantile to use a main body of msg to malign and criticise another forum member. It follows then that using a signature as a mirror to reflect an abuser ugliness back to him/her is a legitimate tool.

So true... For those under the age of 14.

"It's obsessive and infantile to use a signature to malign and criticise another forum member."

So true... For those under the age of 10 Wink

OK, for those under 10 then. Know anyone who indulges in this practice?

Criticising someone in a post (or even a few posts) is one thing (and it happens often - after all, how could it not at some point)... But putting it into a signature such that the same malign comments are repeated possibly thousands of times is obsession in its most infantile form.

We're all adults here (I guess). If someone can't take a bit of argie-bargie from time to time, then he/she should really not subscribe to online forums and instead join up to self-help groups that treat the psychologically fragile as a delicate flower. But it's understandable that the victim of a malign comment can become progressively more irritated (never mind casual observers who see it as pathetic) when he has to read the same crap week in and week out that refers to an online altercation that may have happened months ago.

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Reply #18 - Apr 2^nd, 2010 at 9:40pm

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Criticising someone in a post (or even a few posts) is one thing (and it happens often - after all, how could it not at some point)... But putting it into a signature such that the same malign comments are repeated possibly thousands of times is obsession in its most infantile form.

We're all adults here (I guess). If someone can't take a bit of argie-bargie from time to time, then he/she should really not subscribe to online forums and instead join up to self-help groups that treat the psychologically fragile as a delicate flower. But it's understandable that the victim of a malign comment can become progressively more irritated (never mind casual observers who see it as pathetic) when he has to read the same crap week in and week out that refers to an online altercation that may have happened months ago.

It's more than irritating - it's a deterrent to posting here. Those who don't know me - may assume the worst.

It is an incident that happened months ago and is totally unrelated to me, yet because this bully can't get to the person he believes is responsible - chooses to punish someone who hasn't the ability to fight on his obsessive level.

You could liken it to a man who hates his boss for some perceived slight, so goes home and beats his wife and kids. It makes him feel better.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: personal criticism in signatures Reply #19 - Apr 2^nd, 2010 at 9:41pm TELL HIM YOU'LL SUE HIM FOR LIBEL.
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Reply #20 - Apr 2^nd, 2010 at 10:43pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2010 at 9:05pm:

OK, for those under 10 then. Know anyone who indulges in this practice?

Criticising someone in a post (or even a few posts) is one thing (and it happens often - after all, how could it not at some point)... But putting it into a signature such that the same malign comments are repeated possibly thousands of times is obsession in its most infantile form.

We're all adults here (I guess). If someone can't take a bit of argie-bargie from time to time, then he/she should really not subscribe to online forums and instead join up to self-help groups that treat the psychologically fragile as a delicate flower. But it's understandable that the victim of a malign comment can become progressively more irritated (never mind casual observers who see it as pathetic) when he has to read the same crap week in and week out that refers to an online altercation that may have happened months ago.

He who sow the wind looks silly when complaining about reaping the whirlwind.

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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: personal criticism in signatures Reply #21 - Apr 2^nd, 2010 at 10:57pm tallowood wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2010 at 10:43pm: He who sow the wind looks silly when complaining about reaping the whirlwind. Appropriate if you're talking about avenging a murder or commenting on the consequences of slavery... But an altercation on an online forum?
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Reply #22 - Apr 2^nd, 2010 at 11:08pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2010 at 10:57pm:

tallowood wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2010 at 10:43pm:

He who sow the wind looks silly when complaining about reaping the whirlwind.

Appropriate if you're talking about avenging a murder or commenting on the consequences of slavery... But an altercation on an online forum?

Yes but we are talking not about killing but about internet forum emotional teeter-totter after all.

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Reply #23 - Apr 2^nd, 2010 at 11:20pm

tallowood wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2010 at 11:08pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2010 at 10:57pm:

tallowood wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2010 at 10:43pm:

He who sow the wind looks silly when complaining about reaping the whirlwind.

Appropriate if you're talking about avenging a murder or commenting on the consequences of slavery... But an altercation on an online forum?

Yes but we are talking not about killing but about internet forum emotional teeter-totter after all.

Yes, that's my point.

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Reply #24 - Apr 3^rd, 2010 at 12:10am

Anybody very easily offended by name calling probably shouldn't be on the internet on the first place, particularly not on a political forum where controversy is the purpose and tempers and passions flare. I don't see anything wrong with wanting to maintain a semblance of order here however, especially if we're interested in attracting new members. I don't think people come here to listen to the little spats that members like Darwin, Grendel and Skippy seem to engage in all the time.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: personal criticism in signatures Reply #25 - Apr 3^rd, 2010 at 2:48am I just reply to what is said Imp...
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Reply #26 - Apr 3^rd, 2010 at 11:01am

aikmann4 wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2010 at 12:10am:

Anybody very easily offended by name calling probably shouldn't be on the internet on the first place, particularly not on a political forum where controversy is the purpose and tempers and passions flare. I don't see anything wrong with wanting to maintain a semblance of order here however, especially if we're interested in attracting new members. I don't think people come here to listen to the little spats that members like Darwin, Grendel and Skippy seem to engage in all the time.

This has got nothing to do with name calling, or a little arguing between members, it's about a signature that’s up there in your face constantly. What makes it more offensive is that it’s untrue, but some people wouldn’t know that – therefore it's nasty.

This person has no proof of his allegations, but is allowed to have them displayed on every post he makes denigrating one active member here - moi. This is persecution, but he gets away with it because if someone dares tell him it’s unacceptable – he’ll abuse them also.

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No, you are too sweet for that but I can recall others.

Thank you Tallow - you're sweet too. Wink

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49811 At my desk.	Re: personal criticism in signatures Reply #27 - Apr 3^rd, 2010 at 11:15am I'm leaning towards banning any negative reference to other forum users in signatures. I have already banned the use of external URL's. I think that the 'broadcast' nature of signatures warants stricter standards. It also does make the forum look silly to newbies with such petty stuff all over the place.
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Reply #28 - Apr 3^rd, 2010 at 8:45pm

freediver wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2010 at 11:15am:

I'm leaning towards banning any negative reference to other forum users in signatures. I have already banned the use of external URL's. I think that the 'broadcast' nature of signatures warants stricter standards. It also does make the forum look silly to newbies with such petty stuff all over the place.

How about putting negative reference to other forum users above signatures line?

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49811 At my desk.	Re: personal criticism in signatures Reply #29 - Apr 3^rd, 2010 at 9:49pm Same rules as always.
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