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Apr 23rd, 2010 at 8:11am
 
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/entertainment/1043738/south-park-cuts-image-of-mohamm...

'South Park' cuts Mohammed image after threat


The latest episode of satirical cartoon show "South Park" has been censored after a radical Muslim group threatened the show's creators for their depiction of the Prophet Mohammed.

A spokesman for the Comedy Central television channel confirmed to AFP that the network had added a series of audio bleeps to the episode broadcast late Wednesday, which effectively removed all references to Prophet Mohammed.

"I can confirm that Comedy Central added additional audio bleeps after the cut of the episode was delivered by the producers," the spokesman said.

Comedy Central would not confirm that the changes were linked to statements made by the New York-based Revolution Muslim group earlier this week.

The extremist group said South Park creators Matt Stone and Trey Parker risked the same fate as slain Dutch filmmaker Theo Van Gogh, who was murdered by a Muslim extremist in Amsterdam in 2004.

Revolution Muslim posted the address of Stone and Parker's Los Angeles production offices, but denied they were encouraging violence.

"We have to warn Matt and Trey that what they are doing is stupid and they will probably wind up like Theo van Gogh for airing this show," the group said.

A spokesman for the group denied the statement was an incitement.

"Revolution Muslim only wants those offended to be able to voice their opposition by letters to the show's creators," a spokesman told CNN.

The Muslim group's statement followed the April 14 episode of "South Park," where the Prophet Mohammed appeared wearing a bear mascot costume in order to avoid his image being shown.

"South Park," which follows the surreal and often profane adventures of four schoolchildren in a fictitious Colorado town, has regularly lampooned religions during its 13 years on the air.

Atlantic Online blogger Andrew Sullivan accused Comedy Central of "wussing out" by censoring Wednesday's episode.

"'South Park' has long had Jesus and Satan, they have ridiculed Mormonism, eviscerated Scientology, mocked Catholicism and showed the Buddha actually doing lines of coke," Sullivan noted.

"None of the adherents of these other faiths have threatened to kill Matt and Trey, but, of course, some Sunni Islamists did so. So what does Comedy Central do? They wussed out even further."

Cartoon depictions of the Prophet Mohammed in Scandinavian media outlets in recent years have led to violence and plots to murder those responsible.

In 2005, Danish newspaper Jyllands Posten published 12 drawings focused on Islam, several of which were seen as linking the religion and the Prophet Mohammed to modern terrorism and suicide bombings.

The cartoons led to angry protests by Muslims worldwide, leaving dozens of people dead and causing major damage to Danish embassies and other facilities.

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Reply #1 - Apr 23rd, 2010 at 10:27pm
 
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Reply #2 - Apr 23rd, 2010 at 11:37pm
 
Yeah, cowards.

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Reply #3 - Apr 25th, 2010 at 1:42pm
 
I wonder if anyone happened to notice any of these other cases of death threats recently?

Death threats made to Democrats who voted for Obama's health care reform (25/3/2010)

Death threats made against Sikh MP in Canada for "being too liberal" (23/4/2010)

Girl, 12, received 7 death threats a day just for having ginger hair (24/4/2010)

Australian ironman and aviation entrepeneur receives death threats because his aviation company "makes too much noise" (10/4/2010)

Executives receive death threats because recipients of lavish bonuses were going to be named publicly (19/3/2010)

Death threats against company executive who was given a government grant to develop geothermal energy (19/01/2010)

I am pretty certain that if I do a search through these forums, I'm going to struggle to find any of these recent cases of high profile death threats mentioned. Why? Because none of them contain the magic ingredient: Islam. This is nothing but media beat up and sensationalism at it's worst. And sadly some of these cases above are more relevant to Australia, Grant Kenny one of our sporting icons for instance, yet we're more interested in the Yanks? Why? Because it involves Islam.

No doubt some of the dead heads here are going to [mis]understand this post to be a diversion to other death threats. I'm merely pointing out the disproportionate amount of media coverage and attention given to this specific case because it involves Islam. I couldn't care less about diverting or pointing out the faults of others, it's purely an attempt to show how disinterested you all actually are in cases of death threats, UNLESS they happen to involve Islam.
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Reply #4 - Apr 25th, 2010 at 8:00pm
 
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Why? Because none of them contain the magic ingredient: Islam.


No Abu, it's because none of them are part of a broad, deliberate, and partially effective effort at destroying freedom of speech. They are all from the lunatic fringe, it's just that the ones coming from Islam are from an organised lunatic fringe. There is a very good (and fair) reason why they get more coverage.

Also, there are very few examples of people getting killed over such trivial things as drawing a cartoon.

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I'm merely pointing out the disproportionate amount of media coverage and attention given to this specific case because it involves Islam.


It is not a specific case, but a persistent pattern of behaviour. If the journalists thought that Muslims were going to come to their senses tomorrow and feel silly about it, it would recieve as little attention as the other ones.

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I couldn't care less about diverting or pointing out the faults of others, it's purely an attempt to show how disinterested you all actually are in cases of death threats, UNLESS they happen to involve Islam.


It is not death threats alone that make it interesting. What makes it interesting is the attack on freedom of speech. It would recieve attention, regardless of the mechanism used. For example, the Australian government is getting an enourmous amount of attention because of the potential undermining of freedom of speech with their internet filter. They didn't even have to kill anyone.

It's the same with throwing acid in the face of immodestly clad women across the middle east. If it was just an angry ex husband taking revenge, it would be regarded as just another crime - as you have often tried to portray it. It gets media attention, not because of Islam per se, but because it is part of a broad, deliberate, and in this case very effective effort to deny women the right to dress as they please. And because people like you try to justify, divert etc.
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Reply #5 - Apr 25th, 2010 at 9:50pm
 
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They are all from the lunatic fringe, it's just that the ones coming from Islam are from an organised lunatic fringe.


The organisation is in your head.

The Sikhs who made death threats against the Canadian M.P are not organised?

The green extremists who make death threats against energy executives are not organised?

The Christian militias in the U.S who undergo military training and want to overthrow Obama are not organised?

The only one not organised here fd seems to be you. Not organised enough to work this all out.

Again, I assert, this is nothing but over-hyped sensationalist garbage, and I can't believe there's so many fickle buffoons out there to lap it up.
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Reply #6 - Apr 25th, 2010 at 10:06pm
 
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The organisation is in your head.


For a lunatic fringe, they are organised. None of those other groups you mentioned are actively trying to stop the global media from exercising the right to free speech. None of them have killed journalists or cartoonists. The closest thing I can think of is the scientologists, who harass and send lawyers after their enemies, but even they would not stoop to murdering a cartoonist. But they do cop a heap of flak for what they get up to, and they deserve it, just like the muslims who support the dismantling of freedom of speech deserve all the criticism they get. The extent of the threat and the extent of the crimes that have actually been committed are commensurate with the level of media attention they are getting.

BTW Abu, do you support the media's right to publish cartoons of the prophet muhammed?

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Reply #7 - Apr 25th, 2010 at 11:24pm
 
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Reply #8 - Apr 26th, 2010 at 12:22pm
 
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BTW Abu, do you support the media's right to publish cartoons of the prophet muhammed?


Definitely not!

But I don't support responding with death threats. Muslims need to continue their boycotts as they did with Denmark, and go a step further, and lobby their governments to make the boycotts official across the entire Muslim world. Let us see how those countries would rush to defend the freedom to slander and denigrate after that.

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Wow, that's pretty awful. Especially that ginger hair one.


Yeh it's shocking kids should have to grow up with this kind of an environment. It's happening a lot here too nowadays as many high profile suicide cases have recently exposed.

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As for depictions of the prophet, I think it's distasteful and I think muslims have a right to be offended, but I don't think someone should feel threatened.


100% in accordance with my thoughts.
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Reply #9 - Apr 26th, 2010 at 8:25pm
 
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Definitely not!


There you have it Abu. That is why it recieves so much attention - because apparently normal people such as yourself try to paint it as an isolated crime rather than as part of a broader attack on press freedom. It is not the death threat or the murder itself that is scary, but the broader implications for freedom of speech.
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Reply #10 - Apr 26th, 2010 at 10:08pm
 
I've got no problem with freedom of press, this isn't freedom of press though, it's freedom to slander, denigrate and offend people. That I do have a problem with.
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Reply #11 - Apr 26th, 2010 at 10:14pm
 
He died 1200 years ago Abu.

If you don't think this is freedom of the press, you don't know what freedom of the press really means. Freedom of speech is only a genuine freedom if it extends people the right to say something you might not like.
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Reply #12 - Apr 26th, 2010 at 10:39pm
 
I just looked at the cartoons from the 2005 controversy, and it seems like the author's intention was to poke fun Danish peoples' perceptions of the prophet, rather than offend. I still find it a bit distasteful, but I don't think it should be banned, because I have seen distasteful depictions of Jesus or Dawkins, and to be so sensitive to one particular religion, wouldn't that be discriminatory?
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Reply #13 - Apr 27th, 2010 at 12:18am
 
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He died 1200 years ago Abu.


Irrelevant. Whether it was 5 minutes ago or 5 millenia ago has no effect whatsoever.

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If you don't think this is freedom of the press, you don't know what freedom of the press really means...


I don't think freedom of the press means the ability to slander or contravene people's religious sanctification. Freedom of press in my view is more about the ability to expose and call to account leaders. To you it seems to be about the ability to create ridiculous things, just to upset people and prove you can do it.

It's really extremely childish if you ask me.

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I just looked at the cartoons from the 2005 controversy, and it seems like the author's intention was to poke fun Danish peoples' perceptions of the prophet, rather than offend. I still find it a bit distasteful, but I don't think it should be banned


In Islam, any depiction of Muhammad (pbuh) or any other prophet actually is considered sacrilege and is forbidden. We consider it a fabrication of their appearance and a great disrespect to them, especially when it involves trivialising them in such a manner.

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because I have seen distasteful depictions of Jesus or Dawkins, and to be so sensitive to one particular religion, wouldn't that be discriminatory?


Yes, it shouldn't be done for Jesus (pbuh) in our opinion.
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Reply #14 - Apr 27th, 2010 at 3:16am
 
abu_rashid wrote on Apr 26th, 2010 at 10:08pm:
I've got no problem with freedom of press, this isn't freedom of press though, it's freedom to slander, denigrate and offend people. That I do have a problem with.



Yes fancy the thought of "slandering" a group who call for the death of a teacher who allowed a primary school class to call their teddy bear mohammed, which also happens to be a pretty popular name in certain cultures I hear.

When will muslims get it, calling for death, and often acting on such calls, as retribution for people who do not agree with your religious prejudices is the opposite of religious freedom.
Islam offers, and allows, NO religious freedom.

What right do they use to claim for themselves exclusively, that which they deny all others, universally?
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