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Re: Does Gods character evolve?
Reply #15 - Apr 29^th, 2010 at 5:12pm

mozzaok wrote on Apr 27^th, 2010 at 5:08pm:

I really think that the whole question could be better phrased as;
Does our concept of god evolve?

I prefer the original question. Would you say:

Does Harry Potter character evolve? or
Does our concept of Harry Potter evolve?

Why deny attributing a character to God when you would grant one to Harry Potter?

Do you have something against God ?

I'll just add ... you Godless atheist to the end, because today I'm a Pentecostal.

Don't argue with me tomorrow - I'm planning to be a Rastafarian then.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Does Gods character evolve? Reply #16 - Apr 29^th, 2010 at 5:17pm That is probably deeply disrespectful.
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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Does Gods character evolve? Reply #17 - Apr 29^th, 2010 at 5:18pm Grendel wrote on Apr 29^th, 2010 at 5:17pm: That is probably deeply disrespectful. Yes. Isn't he just?
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Does Gods character evolve? Reply #18 - Apr 29^th, 2010 at 5:23pm Sad... but predictable.
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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Does Gods character evolve? Reply #19 - Apr 29^th, 2010 at 6:57pm Grendel wrote on Apr 29^th, 2010 at 5:23pm: Sad... but predictable. That's not very Christian of you. What are you? A Methodist?
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Sprintcyclist Moderator Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40735 Gender:	Re: Does Gods character evolve? Reply #20 - Apr 29^th, 2010 at 7:01pm onya muso
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Re: Does Gods character evolve?
Reply #21 - Apr 29^th, 2010 at 7:30pm

muso wrote on Apr 29^th, 2010 at 5:12pm:

Why deny attributing a character to God when you would grant one to Harry Potter?

Because that would make him one character type as opposed to another... Which is meaningless with the divine... The Abrahamic monotheistic god is beyond definition as he is absolute and transcendent.

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Re: Does Gods character evolve?
Reply #22 - Apr 29^th, 2010 at 7:54pm

OK, so we used to have a vengeful god, and a jealous god(sounds like a bit of a prick if you ask me) in the old testament, and then we got a more loving god, and a compassionate god at the start of the new testament(things are looking up, perhaps he has been in therapy) and then we got a a bit of a schizo god undergoing a severe identity crisis, I am the father son and holy ghost period(whoops, looks like it is back to therapy for you old son, or is that father, or perhaps ghost?) and finally we get the judgmental god who will be snatching people physically from their homes any day now for the big rap (ture) party, while condemning heathens like me to eternal torture( and now I am back to the start again, he is a prick)

Is that what you meant sprint?

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Reply #23 - Apr 29^th, 2010 at 8:35pm

mozzaok wrote on Apr 29^th, 2010 at 7:54pm:

OK, so we used to have a vengeful god, and a jealous god(sounds like a bit of a prick if you ask me) in the old testament, and then we got a more loving god, and a compassionate god at the start of the new testament(things are looking up, perhaps he has been in therapy) and then we got a a bit of a schizo god undergoing a severe identity crisis, I am the father son and holy ghost period(whoops, looks like it is back to therapy for you old son, or is that father, or perhaps ghost?) and finally we get the judgmental god who will be snatching people physically from their homes any day now for the big rap (ture) party, while condemning heathens like me to eternal torture( and now I am back to the start again, he is a prick)

To determine why God has such an identity crisis, you need to look at the origins of the Jewish religion in Zoroastrianism following the return from exile in Babylon of the Jewish aristocracy. The dominant religion of the Persian invaders then became the main influence for what was previously a polytheist religion, in which Jehovah was the God of War.

The New Testament transformation culminated in the establishment of the current collection of gospels following the Council of Nicea in 325 AD. Up to that time, there was a considerable Gnostic influence in the new religion of Christianity in its various forms. During the Council of Nicea, most of the "plain silly" Gnostic texts were purged, but the influences remained.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Does Gods character evolve? Reply #24 - Apr 29^th, 2010 at 9:36pm Quote: That's not very Christian of you. What are you? A Methodist? Why would it not be very Christian? To me it was just a statement of fact.
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Reply #25 - Apr 30^th, 2010 at 12:17pm

Well it wasn't intended to be. I was just pointing aut that even Harry Potter can have an evolving character, while for Atheists, God is not allowed even to have a character since he's nothing...nada.

So cool it dey man....

Oh, please don't you rock my boat (don't rock my boat)
'Cause I don't want my boat to be rockin' (don't rock my boat)
Oh, please don't you rock my boat (don't rock my boat)
'Cause I don't want my boat to be rockin' (don't rock my boat)

Peace brothas \/

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tallowood Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6048	Re: Does Gods character evolve? Reply #26 - May 1^st, 2010 at 6:59pm Actually it is as simple as theory of numbers. From 1,2,3...(n) to a +bi, which widens field of religions to include all sorts of atheistic denominations.
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mozzaok Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 6741 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Does Gods character evolve? Reply #27 - May 1^st, 2010 at 9:31pm Can we add "atheistic denominations" to the list of things that do not exist, that tallo believes in? Not believing in god, is to being religious, what not collecting stamps, is to being a philatelist.
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Re: Does Gods character evolve?
Reply #28 - May 1^st, 2010 at 9:36pm

mozzaok wrote on May 1^st, 2010 at 9:31pm:

Can we add "atheistic denominations" to the list of things that do not exist, that tallo believes in?

Not believing in god, is to being religious, what not collecting stamps, is to being a philatelist.

No, that's agnosticism. atheism is this:

Not believing in god, is to being religious, what believing that collecting stamps is evil is to being a philatelist.

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Re: Does Gods character evolve?
Reply #29 - May 1^st, 2010 at 9:41pm

mozzaok wrote on May 1^st, 2010 at 9:31pm:

Can we add "atheistic denominations" to the list of things that do not exist, that tallo believes in?

Not believing in god, is to being religious, what not collecting stamps, is to being a philatelist.

We can add atheism to the list of things that do not exist because somebody do not believe in them.

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