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Sprintcyclist Moderator Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40723 Gender:	Re: Does Gods character evolve? Reply #60 - May 5^th, 2010 at 11:21am hmmmmmmm, that's not how I read it
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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Does Gods character evolve? Reply #61 - May 5^th, 2010 at 11:49am Sprintcyclist wrote on May 5^th, 2010 at 11:21am: hmmmmmmm, that's not how I read it Start with the tragi-comic fabrication to get Jesus born in Bethlehem.
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Reply #62 - May 5^th, 2010 at 12:48pm

or one could go back much further, back to a prophecy of WHERE the messiah was to be born .

"But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah,
though you are small among the clans of Judah, out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from ancient times. "

Micah 5:2

Around 700 BC

Appears to be smidgen of a hint at Jesus in there to me

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Reply #63 - May 5^th, 2010 at 12:50pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 5^th, 2010 at 12:48pm:

or one could go back much further, back to a prophecy of WHERE the messiah was to be born .

"But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah,
though you are small among the clans of Judah, out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from ancient times. "

Micah 5:2

Around 700 BC

Appears to be smidgen of a hint at Jesus in there to me

Hence the need for the acrobatics to get Jesus born in Bethlehem... Ignoring the fact that Jesus never ruled over Israel.

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Reply #64 - May 6^th, 2010 at 8:30am

Sprint, if you are talking of "Jesus of Nazareth" then you oughta put your faith in Rudd of Canberra, because Rudd actually exists.
Jesus of Nazareth never existed in the context in which it is portrayed.
Please find me Nazareth at the time of the "supposed" Christ.
It doesn't exist...QED..proven fact.
Nazareth is a figment of the imagination, not a part of history. So too is the Jesus as portrayed in the bible. Well, not even in the bible because there wasn't much specific mention of him. The legend of Christ has grown and people will fight to uphold that legend, even though it is not true.

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Reply #65 - May 6^th, 2010 at 7:50pm

Whether Jesus existed or not, whether he was from Nazareth or whether that legend grew out of one of the many mistranslations and misunderstandings of Judaism (i.e. Jesus the Nazarene mistaken for meaning 'of Nazareth'), there is little doubt that his contemporaries did not know of a story of his being born in Bethlehem.

That legend began decades after his death, it seems, to link him to the OT prophesy that David's town, Bethlehem, would produce a Messiah. Matthew and Luke enter into the realm of pure fiction in trying to place his birth in Bethlehem and at the same time linking him to the universally despised Herod the Great.

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Sprintcyclist Moderator Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40723 Gender:	Re: Does Gods character evolve? Reply #66 - May 6^th, 2010 at 11:59pm so your're of the opinion Jesus was not the messiah ?
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Does Gods character evolve? Reply #67 - May 7^th, 2010 at 12:16am Sprintcyclist wrote on May 6^th, 2010 at 11:59pm: so your're of the opinion Jesus was not the messiah ? He thinks jesus wasn't even a naughty boy.
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Sprintcyclist Moderator Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40723 Gender:	Re: Does Gods character evolve? Reply #68 - May 7^th, 2010 at 1:00am Not even a naughty boy ??????????? ripped off. that was a great movie, even the preludes were excellent
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Reply #69 - May 7^th, 2010 at 6:36am

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 7^th, 2010 at 1:00am:

Not even a naughty boy ???????????
ripped off.

Nein, nein.. He was naughty alright... He was very bloody naughty...

If only he'd paideth heed... One shalt speaketh not of state insurrection

Quote:

CENTURION : What's this then? 'ROMANES EUNT DOMUS.' People called Romanes, they go the house?

BRIAN : It, it says 'Romans go home'.

CENTURION : No, it doesn't. What's Latin for 'Roman'? Come on...

BRIAN Aaaahh..

CENTURION Come on.

BRIAN Ah! Romanus?

CENTURION Goes like?

BRIAN Annus?

CENTURION Vocative plural of 'annus' is?

BRIAN Anni?

CENTURION Romani. [crosses out the 'es' and writes in 'i'.] Eunt? What is eunt?

BRIAN Go.

CENTURION Conjugate the verb 'to go'.

BRIAN Uh. Ire - Uh... eo, is, it, imus, itis, eunt.

CENTURION So eunt is?

BRIAN Ah, Uh, Third person plural of present indicative. They go.

CENTURION But Romans go home is an order, so you must use the?

--[The centurion lifts Brian by the sideburns...Ouch.]

BRIAN The imperative.

CENTURION Which is?

BRIAN Ahm. Oh, oh, um... I, I.

CENTURION How many Romans?

BRIAN Ah. Plural, plural... ite, ite.

CENTURION Ite. [He again corrects the writing on the wall.] Domus? Nominative? 'Go home'? This is motion towards, isn't it, boy?

BRIAN Dative, sir.

--[The Centurion whips out his weapon, and prepares to slit Brian's throat.]

BRIAN Ahh! No, not dative, not the dative, sir. Oh, Ah. Uh. The accusative accusative. Ah, Domum, sir. Ab domum! Ah! Oooh! Ah!

CENTURION Except that 'domus' takes the?

BRIAN The locative, sir.

CENTURION Which is?

BRIAN Domum. Aagh! ah.

--[Again, the writing is amended.]

CENTURION Domum... um... Understand?

BRIAN Yes, sir.

CENTURION Now write it out a hundred times.

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Reply #70 - May 7^th, 2010 at 8:02am

My god, that was like an acid flashback to a bad trip, with the fiendishly evil brother irvine terrorising clueless youths with nonsense about constructing a sentence with the future perfect tense, and an ablative appropriate.
Gleefully beating lads viciously about the ears as he spotted each and every error.

It was the perfect storm of schoolboy horror, Latin, with evil Irvine, no malevolent creature from the fiery pit could evoke greater fear into a young man's heart than that dread combination.

(That this combination could exist, was also proof positive that there was no god, at least no god without cruel and evil predilections.)

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Reply #71 - May 7^th, 2010 at 8:05am

mozzaok wrote on May 7^th, 2010 at 8:02am:

My god, that was like an acid flashback to a bad trip, with the fiendishly evil brother irvine terrorising clueless youths with nonsense about constructing a sentence with the future perfect tense, and an ablative appropriate.
Gleefully beating lads viciously about the ears as he spotted each and every error.

It was the perfect storm of schoolboy horror, Latin, with evil Irvine, no malevolent creature from the fiery pit could evoke greater fear into a young man's heart than that dread combination.

(That this combination could exist, was also proof positive that there was no god, at least no god without cruel and evil predilections.)

Mozz? You're a refugee from the Holy Mother Church?

Do you wonder what brother irvine is doing now?

3 to 6 for assault? Grin

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Sprintcyclist Moderator Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40723 Gender:	Re: Does Gods character evolve? Reply #72 - May 7^th, 2010 at 8:06am they were one of the best comedy "teams " I have seem. evolved from the brilliant "Monty Pythons Flying Circus" I guess that has aged now ?
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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Does Gods character evolve? Reply #73 - May 7^th, 2010 at 8:19am Sprintcyclist wrote on May 7^th, 2010 at 8:06am: they were one of the best comedy "teams " I have seem. evolved from the brilliant "Monty Pythons Flying Circus" I guess that has aged now ? Aged, like good wine.
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Reply #74 - May 7^th, 2010 at 10:04am

mozzaok wrote on May 7^th, 2010 at 8:02am:

fiendishly evil brother irvine terrorising clueless youths with nonsense about constructing a sentence with the future perfect tense, and an ablative appropriate.
Gleefully beating lads viciously about the ears as he spotted each and every error.

It was the perfect storm of schoolboy horror, Latin, with evil Irvine, no malevolent creature from the fiery pit could evoke greater fear into a young man's heart than that dread combination.

Sh!t!! My wife is a classicist. Now I'm twiggin' onto, like ... everything!!

Ahhhh.

Cheesy

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