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Church councilor rapes and burns 14 yo. girl alive
Jun 1st, 2010 at 7:18pm
 
This animal was the church councilor for this girl. What makes the Christians such sick and despicable creatures that they could do this to a little girl?

One of your mates is it sprint?

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Man charged with rape, attempted murder and arson after girl, 14, left fighting for life in Caroline Springs


UPDATE 5.51pm: A MAN accused of raping a teenage girl and setting her alight was tracked down through the victim's Facebook page, police allege.

Michael Tuano Hermogenes, 24, has been charged over a Caroline Springs house fire yesterday that left a 14-year-old girl fighting for her life.

The victim remains in a critical condition at the Royal Children's Hospital, with burns to up to 80 per cent of her body. She may have to have a foot amputated.

Mr Hermogenes allegedly claims he suffered memory loss and woke up naked on top of the bleeding and unconscious girl in her home.

He saw that the teen, who was also naked, was alive and dragged her into a bathroom, a police summary from Mr Hermogenes' remand hearing alleges.

Mr Hermogenes allegedly left to buy petrol, which he used to douse the injured girl "to kill her and destroy evidence" before igniting it and fleeing.

Police allege the victim went to school yesterday morning but left after getting a text message from a friend.

Her Facebook page and family members were checked to identify Mr Hermogenes as a suspect.

The police summary alleges Mr Hermogenes admitted taking food and alcohol to the girl's house.

They watched a movie, listened to music and took photos of each other.

"They accused stated he had a gap in his memory of events and stated he found himself naked and on top of the victim on her bed," police allege.

The remand hearing was held at the Alfred Hospital where Mr Hermogenes is being treated for his own burn injuries.

Police opposed him being granted bail on the grounds that he is a danger to the public and had no fixed address, having been sleeping in his car.

Mr Hermogenes, of Tarneit, is charged with attempted murder, rape, sexual penetration of ca child under 16, intentionally and recklessly causing serious injury, reckless conduct endangering life and aggravated burglary.

He was remanded in custody to return to court in August.

Source: Herald-Sun
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Reply #1 - Jun 1st, 2010 at 10:31pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Jun 1st, 2010 at 7:18pm:
This animal was the church councilor for this girl.



Where o you get that from?
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Reply #2 - Jun 2nd, 2010 at 10:09am
 
Was that one of Sprint's mates?

We should pray for him.
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Reply #3 - Jun 2nd, 2010 at 7:00pm
 
Brian told me so.
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Reply #4 - Jun 2nd, 2010 at 8:25pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Jun 2nd, 2010 at 7:00pm:
Brian told me so.



You mean you just made up the church reference.

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Reply #5 - Jun 2nd, 2010 at 11:00pm
 
No I mean I heard it on the news.
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Reply #6 - Jun 3rd, 2010 at 9:45am
 
Obviously this man was a sick, evil, bastard, you should be familiar with them abu, you worship one.

Christians may err in their followings of jesus' teachings, but if they just followed the example of his life they would do OK.
On the other hand, taking the example of mohammed's life would see behaviour like rape, murder, and slavery as being legitimately following his beliefs.

It is a no contest when it comes to abhorrent behaviour, but individual psychopaths can come from any idiotic faith based system, and the point of there being evil christians is not new, the difference is that few use the life of christ as validation for their psychopathy, whilst many muslims do look to mohammed's violent ways to justify their own.
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OOPS!!! My Karma, ran over your Dogma!
 
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Reply #7 - Jun 3rd, 2010 at 8:34pm
 
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On the other hand, taking the example of mohammed's life would see behaviour like rape, murder, and slavery as being legitimately following his beliefs.


These slanders inherit your own lack of credibility mozza.

Islam does not call to any of those things, and two of them are in fact capital offenses, much stronger punishment than your own system prescribes.

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It is a no contest when it comes to abhorrent behaviour, but individual psychopaths can come from any idiotic faith based system, and the point of there being evil christians is not new, the difference is that few use the life of christ as validation for their psychopathy, whilst many muslims do look to mohammed's violent ways to justify their own.


Christianity's own teaching is "By their fruits shall ye know them", and by their fruits they are indeed quite despicable. I'm sorry, but the level of depravity their leadership exhibit is not matched by any other system, not even your own godless ideology.
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Reply #8 - Jun 3rd, 2010 at 8:35pm
 
Btw, the fact you're finding it increasingly harder to enter threads without trying to sway their topics to slanders against Islam, indicates how desperate and lost you are.
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Reply #9 - Jun 5th, 2010 at 8:10am
 
Did Mohammed kill?
Did Mohammed rape? (PS I count diddling kids too young to consent as adults, rape. I also consider fornicating with women and girls from tribes whose men you have just slaughtered as rape also)
Did Mohammed promote slavery?

Now ask the same of Jesus.

That was the only point I was making, I agree that many christians are far loopier than a lot of muslims, but the christian example of Christ's life is far superior to the murderous rampage of mohammed's, that was all.

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Btw, the fact you're finding it increasingly harder to enter threads without trying to sway their topics to slanders against Islam, indicates how desperate and lost you are.


True, true, if you could find it in your heart to send $500 to a paypal account, I can buy myself a Navman, and find myself.
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Reply #10 - Jun 5th, 2010 at 8:06pm
 
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Did Mohammed kill?


So now you've realised the error in your words and have revised them to use the term kill instead of murder.

I accept your surrender on that point.

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Did Mohammed rape? (PS I count diddling kids too young to consent as adults, rape. I also consider fornicating with women and girls from tribes whose men you have just slaughtered as rape also)


Your opinion about what constitutes age of consent 1400 years after the fact is really irrelevant. You time and time again display your utter inability to comprehend the fact that all throughout the world in that time that was the age of consent.

I'm sick of reiterating this for people who have less neurons than noses.

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Did Mohammed promote slavery?


No, he discouraged it.

Since you seem to have the mentality only a good hollywood flick can rectify, I have advised you previously when you asked, to go and watch the move "The Message", so you can at least get a rudimentary knowledge of the history of Islam. Here's a half decent quality version of it on youtube which doesn't look too bad in full screen on a PC, do us both a favour and have a squizz, then get back to me.

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Now ask the same of Jesus.


According to the NT, Jesus (pbuh) did not come to remove one single iota from the OT, he came to reaffirm the message of Moses (pbuh), and murder ordered killing, and he took prisoners of war as slaves. Jesus (pbuh) never said a single thing against slavery, in fact if I remember correctly he said something along the lines of slaves should obey their masters. He never said a single word against the marriagable age being the age of puberty, and according to some reports, his own mother was about 12 when she was married to the 80 yo. Joseph. So Yes, pretty much the same.

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True, true, if you could find it in your heart to send $500 to a paypal account, I can buy myself a Navman, and find myself.


A half decent GPS unit can be bought for under $100 nowadays, still living in the past I see.
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Reply #11 - Jun 5th, 2010 at 8:24pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Jun 5th, 2010 at 8:06pm:
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Did Mohammed kill?


So now you've realised the error in your words and have revised them to use the term kill instead of murder.

I accept your surrender on that point.

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Did Mohammed rape? (PS I count diddling kids too young to consent as adults, rape. I also consider fornicating with women and girls from tribes whose men you have just slaughtered as rape also)


Your opinion about what constitutes age of consent 1400 years after the fact is really irrelevant. You time and time again display your utter inability to comprehend the fact that all throughout the world in that time that was the age of consent.

I'm sick of reiterating this for people who have less neurons than noses.




Are you saying that you accept that the age of consent is now different from that of Muhammed's time?

Of course you don't.

You think that the age of consent, set by Mohammed's example of consumating his marriage with a 9 year old, IS the correct age of consent, provided that the 9 year old has menstruated.

As far as you are concerned, 1400 years is like a day - it makes no difference. If Mo's done it, it is right for all eternity.

And so now you are found out to be dissembling again. But then that's part of of being Muslim, isn't it? On your merry, dishonest way, then.i
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Reply #12 - Jun 9th, 2010 at 10:47am
 
King John of England married Isabella of Angoulême when she was 12, and that marriage was sanctioned by the Pope, so I think it's a bit suss comparing Christian or Muslim standards of the mediæval period with those of today. 

In the middle ages, public nudity and even sex were quite common too, at least in Europe. Society standards (and morals) have obviously changed since then.
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Reply #13 - Jun 9th, 2010 at 10:53am
 
muso wrote on Jun 9th, 2010 at 10:47am:
King John of England married Isabella of Angoulême when she was 12, and that marriage was sanctioned by the Pope, so I think it's a bit suss comparing Christian or Muslim standards of the mediæval period with those of today.  


Agreed.

Constantine (a saint) married a 12 year old germanic princess. And correct me if i'm wrong, but didn't Jacob in the bible sleep with his daughter?

Seems our resident Christians (and Jews) are rather selective when comparing the standards of the medieval period with todays.
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Reply #14 - Jun 9th, 2010 at 11:02am
 
Lestat wrote on Jun 9th, 2010 at 10:53am:
muso wrote on Jun 9th, 2010 at 10:47am:
King John of England married Isabella of Angoulême when she was 12, and that marriage was sanctioned by the Pope, so I think it's a bit suss comparing Christian or Muslim standards of the mediæval period with those of today.  


Agreed.

Constantine (a saint) married a 12 year old germanic princess. And correct me if i'm wrong, but didn't Jacob in the bible sleep with his daughter?

Seems our resident Christians (and Jews) are rather selective when comparing the standards of the medieval period with todays.



Yes, inexplicably to a Mohammedan mind, things that occured in the early 13th century, or in archaic times, are not treated as if they happened yesterday. Christians (and Jews) have a sense of historic change.

We know that for Mohammedans, time has stood still since Mohammed. This is one of the reasons they don't fit in with societies that do not treat time as frozen.
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