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mozzaok Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 6741 Melbourne Gender:	Philosophy Test Online Jun 7^th, 2010 at 8:27pm Here is a link to a site where you answer a series of questions, and are allocated an ancient philosopher as your guru. I got Pyrrho the skeptic, who'd a thunk it? lol http://www.markvernon.com/quiz/my-philosophy-guru/ It only takes a few minutes, and you can even watch a little 3 minute video about the guru you get.
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Reply #1 - Jun 7^th, 2010 at 10:35pm

mozzaok wrote on Jun 7^th, 2010 at 8:27pm:

Here is a link to a site where you answer a series of questions, and are allocated an ancient philosopher as your guru.

I got Pyrrho the skeptic, who'd a thunk it? lol

http://www.markvernon.com/quiz/my-philosophy-guru/

It only takes a few minutes, and you can even watch a little 3 minute video about the guru you get.

Zeno, me.
Founder of stoicism.

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Reply #2 - Jun 7^th, 2010 at 10:47pm

I would have thought Zeno of Elea with his paradoxes would be more your style, but maybe he is being held in reserve for Freediver?
I imagine he would enjoy some of Zeno's paradoxes.

I like this line from wikipedia, I think you may see a bit of this in the guru.
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it can be difficult to determine, in some areas, precisely what he thought, but his general views can be outlined:

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Reply #3 - Jun 7^th, 2010 at 11:24pm

mozzaok wrote on Jun 7^th, 2010 at 10:47pm:

I would have thought Zeno of Elea with his paradoxes would be more your style, but maybe he is being held in reserve for Freediver?
I imagine he would enjoy some of Zeno's paradoxes.

I like this line from wikipedia, I think you may see a bit of this in the guru.
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it can be difficult to determine, in some areas, precisely what he thought, but his general views can be outlined:

Well, one of the questions was: do you prefer forging deeper questions or clear answers? I studied philosophy and know that you can have the right questions, never the right answers.

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Philosophy Test Online Reply #4 - Jun 8^th, 2010 at 8:24am Epicurus for me.
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Amadd Gold Member Offline Mo Posts: 6217	Re: Philosophy Test Online Reply #5 - Jun 8^th, 2010 at 8:41am Who the fkuc is Zeno? I wanted Aristotle!
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Reply #6 - Jun 8^th, 2010 at 9:27am

lol," Aristotle, Aristotle, was a bugger for the bottle"

I can see why you would feel an affinity Ammad, I think a lot of us could enjoy sharing a dram or two with the great thinkers, whilst suitably lubricated.

As far as Zeno goes, there were two prominent Zenos, one Zeno of Citium, the one associated with the stoics, and the other Zeno of Elea, who was famous for his paradoxes.
I only know this cos I looked them up on wikipedia, as I am no great scholar myself, but I would be interested which one you got, as I expected Freediver to get Zeno of Elea because of the way he structures some of his arguments, which confuse the heck out of me.

Here is a link to the Monty Python team doing the Philosophers song;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE7Fe1cGLPk&feature=related

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Reply #7 - Jun 8^th, 2010 at 9:51am

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lol," Aristotle, Aristotle, was a bugger for the bottle"

Yes, many a man looked for thy answer within contents of the bottle where the answer lay verily within the bottle itself.

Aristotle, that wasn't your sh!t surely? Nope, he was never that drunk.
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Better a full bottle in front of me than a full frontal lobotamy

Did Arsistotle say that one?

I was the stoic Zeno, but didn't know quite how to answer a lot of those questions because there were so many paradoxes.
...did the test again. Zeno of the Stoics...he musta been permanently p!ssed.i

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mozzaok Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 6741 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Philosophy Test Online Reply #8 - Jun 8^th, 2010 at 10:34am Quote: Zeno of the Stoics...he musta been permanently p!ssed. lol, yep, he was too pissed to give a hoot, permanently pickled. I had got my zenos mixed up before, but modified them to the right way now, lol, I said I was no great scholar, but I couldn't even copy right.
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Reply #9 - Jun 9^th, 2010 at 7:51am

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lol, yep, he was too pissed to give a hoot, permanently pickled.

I think you jest. I can't find anything to say that he was a drunk, moreso that he was against drunkeness.
There probably weren't enough palatable beverages to be affordably abused in those days anyway.

Zeno (the Stoic) seemed to be pretty close to being right on the money as far as I can see (and of course he would probably convince me further) and it's a pity that more of his works weren't saved, it may have spared us from the scourge of religions a couple of thousand years in advance. Yep, me and Zeno, we woulda been mates.
I think that I would be struggling to find anything much to argue with him about, except that it seems that he strangled himself to death aged at about 72 because it aligned with his philosophy. Quite noble maybe, but questionable.

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Amadd Gold Member Offline Mo Posts: 6217	Re: Philosophy Test Online Reply #11 - Jun 9^th, 2010 at 9:00am Quote: Epicurus: Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”[11] What if that ever made sense?
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Philosophy Test Online Reply #12 - Jun 9^th, 2010 at 9:05am Amadd wrote on Jun 9^th, 2010 at 7:51am: [quote]it's a pity that more of his works weren't saved, it may have spared us from the scourge of religions a couple of thousand years in advance. His followers and readers believed him - they were stoical about the loss of his works.
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Reply #13 - Jun 9^th, 2010 at 10:04am

Amadd wrote on Jun 9^th, 2010 at 9:00am:

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Epicurus: Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”[11]

What if that ever made sense?

It makes perfect sense. Another option is that God was able and willing, but he kicked the bucket. Grin

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Reply #14 - Jun 9^th, 2010 at 10:59am

muso wrote on Jun 9^th, 2010 at 10:04am:

Amadd wrote on Jun 9^th, 2010 at 9:00am:

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Epicurus: Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”[11]

What if that ever made sense?

It makes perfect sense. Another option is that God was able and willing, but he kicked the bucket. Grin

There is also the "travelling god" theory, where he was a sort of Johnny Appleseed type of character, making his way across the cosmos spreading the seed of life, with nary a backward glance.

This theory allows theists to have their, "it had to start somewhere" argument, but still paints them as being a bit silly for talking to him like he was listening or gave a rat's, or could do anything about it, even if he could hear their pleas from the other side of the cosmos while he continues to spread his seed.

Personally I find the travelling god argument far less ridiculous than any "interventionist" god theories that I have heard.

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