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Reply #315 - Feb 2nd, 2012 at 2:20am
 
verrrryy interesstingg.!!

especially the first line graph.  See how it shows we have had our glory days.  See how, after the shxt hits the fan ,  the only things that go up are births and deaths. But resulting in a rapidly declining population.!

An interpretation I find quite compelling, sadly. I would have to say I generally agree with these projections.. 
Im glad I have no children or grandchildren who would have had to live thru the'fall'.

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Reply #316 - Feb 11th, 2012 at 10:55pm
 
Baby Boomers To Blame For U.S. Job Market Weakness: Study


Retiring baby boomers are the culprits behind a significant decline in the labor force participation rate (LFPR) in the U.S. over the last dozen years, according to a new study by the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago.

The Great Recession and tepid economic recovery have been widely blamed for job market weakness. But just under half of the decline in the proportion of the working-age population that is employed, or unemployed and seeking work, is because of shifting demographics, according to the analysis by staff economists Daniel Aaronson, Jonathan Davis and Luojia Hu in the Chicago Fed's March 2012 "Essay On Issues."

The aggregate LFPR stood at 64 percent in December 2011, a decline of 3.3 percent since its peak in 2000, the authors note. That cumulative drop is more than twice as large as any since World War II. Both baby boomers and teenagers are playing a role in the falling figures.

"At least two demographic factors have contributed to this decline," the authors write. "First, in 1996 the first baby boomers turned 50 -- an age when labor force participation traditionally peaks. Since that time, a growing number of baby boomers have transitioned out of the labor force. Second, there has been a longrunning downward shift in teen work activity -- which picked up speed during the latter half of the 2000s."

Experts suggest the labor force demographic trend will also play out in the investing world. "The front end of the baby boomer generation is starting to take money out, and that could become a big headwind for the stock market," David Foot, a professor at the University of Toronto and author of "Boom, Bust & Echo," told Reuters in January.
"In the short-term, the economy drives market returns. But over the long-term, demographics dominates as the major determinant -- and its impact is very hard to offset."


But while the Chicago Fed researchers are forecasting a continuing trend -- estimating a LFPR rate of 65.4 percent in 2020 -- anecdotal evidence suggests economic and personal factors may keep baby boomers on the job. Clearly the recession took a toll on employment, housing values and savings, requiring millions of post 50s to remain in the workforce longer than they expected.

A recent survey by the AARP Public Policy Institute found 57 percent of older workers, jobseekers, and recent labor force participants reported that they were less confident than before the recession that they will have enough money to live comfortably throughout their retirement years.

Those worries are translating into continued work: Nearly 18 percent of people 65 and older participated in the workforce in 2011, compared with 11 percent in 1985, according to the AARP. In addition, a Wells Fargo survey found one-quarter of respondents expect to be working into their 80s.

Moreover, there's the fulfillment factor: People who remain engaged by work and other activities are happier, according to a recent study by Boston College's Sloan Center on Aging & Work. The center found that people age 50 and 64 who were involved in paid employment had significantly higher wellbeing scores than those who were not.

As 93-year-old Edward Gerjuoy, an emeritus professor in the physics and astronomy department at the University of Pittsburgh, told USA Today: "I really feel that working keeps me youthful. But even more than that, I feel if you're here, you should have some function in life. I think this idea that one owes something to society has grown on me."

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Reply #317 - Feb 11th, 2012 at 11:10pm
 
Ah yes.... work is good for you.
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Reply #318 - Feb 12th, 2012 at 10:56pm
 
Well I wonder about Australian Women sometimes considering our population growth goes into recession often.
Too much Liberation and not enough stimulation?
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Reply #319 - Feb 12th, 2012 at 11:21pm
 
Considering Oz has just had the highest birth rate since the post - war baby boom, I wonder at your import.

As for stimulation, or lack there of, where would you say the problem lies. Hmmm???

I'll tell you if you like. Smiley
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Reply #320 - Feb 12th, 2012 at 11:46pm
 
True - the population last year made a record 200,000+, but such swings of growth are rare.
'But' - and I say this carefully, it may be a 'constant' population growth from now on.

As for stimulation Jalane. Oh ok - you can be on top.
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Reply #321 - Feb 13th, 2012 at 12:15am
 
you wish! Kiss
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Reply #322 - Feb 13th, 2012 at 7:18am
 
Oh ok - you can be on top.


Only if she is good looking, otherwise........................ Shocked
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Reply #323 - Feb 13th, 2012 at 1:57pm
 
See - no wonder the population doesn't quite cut the mustard in this part of the world. I was even willing to let Jalane ride the horsey at a gallop.
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Reply #324 - Feb 13th, 2012 at 5:10pm
 
It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Feb 13th, 2012 at 1:57pm:
See - no wonder the population doesn't quite cut the mustard in this part of the world. I was even willing to let Jalane ride the horsey at a gallop.

ah pooor darlings - if you only knew.!!   I am quite gorgeous actually. Smiley Kiss

People tell me I look like Meryl Streep ....or her younger sister.  Can't see it myself.
I prefer one lovely old fella's take that I look like Brigitte Bardot used to.  Or even Karen Black, if you remember her.

Nope - you don't know what you're missing. Cool
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Reply #325 - Feb 13th, 2012 at 6:31pm
 
Emma wrote on Feb 13th, 2012 at 5:10pm:
It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Feb 13th, 2012 at 1:57pm:
See - no wonder the population doesn't quite cut the mustard in this part of the world. I was even willing to let Jalane ride the horsey at a gallop.

ah pooor darlings - if you only knew.!!   I am quite gorgeous actually. Smiley Kiss

People tell me I look like Meryl Streep ....or her younger sister.  Can't see it myself.
I prefer one lovely old fella's take that I look like Brigitte Bardot used to.  Or even Karen Black, if you remember her.

Nope - you don't know what you're missing. Cool



God I hope you don't look like Meryl Streep, YUK.

Brigitte now there is beauty.

Karen Black????
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Reply #326 - Feb 13th, 2012 at 6:52pm
 
never heard of Karen Black??? 

OK so it was in 70's. Wink
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Reply #327 - Feb 13th, 2012 at 7:19pm
 
Emma wrote on Feb 13th, 2012 at 6:52pm:
never heard of Karen Black??? 

OK so it was in 70's. Wink




Jesus she is 73. Doesn't look it though.

Looked her up and hey she was in Easy Rider with Dennis Hopper, Jack  Nicholson and Peter Fonda and that was 1969.

Can't recall the part she played though.

Great movie.
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Reply #328 - Feb 13th, 2012 at 8:22pm
 
yep   amazing how long ago that really was. Shocked

She played a hippy chick I think, from memory, who hooked up with the guys, along with a friend.  THINK she was in the notorious LSD trip in the cemetery.
Then again , they say if you remember the 70's you weren't really THERE. Wink Smiley
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Reply #329 - Feb 13th, 2012 at 9:45pm
 
blackadder wrote on Feb 13th, 2012 at 7:19pm:
Emma wrote on Feb 13th, 2012 at 6:52pm:
never heard of Karen Black??? 

OK so it was in 70's. Wink




Jesus she is 73. Doesn't look it though.

Looked her up and hey she was in Easy Rider with Dennis Hopper, Jack  Nicholson and Peter Fonda and that was 1969.

Can't recall the part she played though.

Great movie.



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