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Reply #375 - Mar 19th, 2012 at 5:00pm
 
China's ageing population to impact economic growth


China's ageing population and the deteriorating natural environment will constrain economic growth, a senior official said Saturday.

China's "demographic dividend" has decreased as the population is ageing fast, and environmental problems will continue. Both factors will hamper the country's economic growth, Ma Jiantang, head of the National Bureau of Statistics, said at the China Development Forum held in Beijing.

Ma's remarks came after China lowered its GDP growth target in 2012 to a seven-year low of 7.5 percent last week to give more leeway to restructure its economy without fuelling inflation, reported Xinhua.

The country's ratio of labour force to the overall population dipped for the first time in 2011, Ma said.

In contrast to limited natural resources per capita, China's energy and resource consumption were enormous, which has resulted in high costs to curb heavy pollution, he said.

The country must step up reforms and restructuring to secure steady and rapid economic growth, Ma added.

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Reply #376 - Mar 20th, 2012 at 5:41am
 
Me thinks Australia and China are gonna swap.
China jettisons its pride in a huge population upon Australia
and
takes Australia's wealth instead.

...so soon our nation will not be one of the wealthiest, but our population will suddenly boom without the need for Boat People and New Zealanders.
Yayyyyy I'm gonna get laid!!! Cool
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Reply #377 - Mar 21st, 2012 at 7:55am
 
<<Yayyyyy I'm gonna get laid!!!>>
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LOL.....you are gonna get so laid, you'll be laid out!
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Reply #378 - Mar 22nd, 2012 at 8:47am
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Mar 21st, 2012 at 7:55am:
<<Yayyyyy I'm gonna get laid!!!>>
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LOL.....you are gonna get so laid, you'll be laid out!


There are so few guarantees in life, but I can assure everyone, "we will all get laid (out) eventually".
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Reply #379 - Mar 22nd, 2012 at 8:24pm
 
China's ageing population and the "demographic time-bomb"


China's One Child policy means that there's a giant cohort of imminent retirees and a much smaller group of young adults of working age who'll have to support them.

China's economic miracle has been fuelled by its "demographic dividend": an unusually high proportion of working age citizens. That population bulge is becoming a problem as it ages. In 2000 there were six workers for every over-60. By 2030, there will be barely two.

Other countries are also ageing and have far lower birth rates. But China is the first to face the issue before it has developed – and the shift is two to three times as fast.

Tens of millions of workers have migrated to the cities
, creating an even worse imbalance in rural areas which already suffer low incomes, poor public services and minimal social security.

Most old people there rely on their own labour and their children. China not only needs to support more older people for longer, but to extend support to new parts of society.

China can help deal with increased costs by raising its retirement age; at present, only about a fifth of urban women are still working at 55. Improving education should also raise productivity. Some experts believe such measures will be enough to wipe out the "demographic debt". Others wonder if China will begin to welcome immigrants.

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A few observations -
1) China won't welcome immigrants, a look at Japan will confirm that!
2) There is a massive shift coming in the form of a slowing Chinese Demand, as their huge shift from "spending works to thrifty retirees" takes place.   
3) That will exacerbate similar trends elsewhere!
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Reply #380 - Apr 6th, 2012 at 8:39pm
 
Aging population to impact economy: BoC


TORONTO – The aging of Canada’s population will put upward pressure on wages as the pool of available workers shrinks, and global aging might over time lead to lower interest rates, Bank of Canada Deputy Governor Jean Boivin said on Wednesday.

Aging will also affect the potential of the economy, meaning the level of activity at which it can operate without inflationary pressures, and this is something the Bank of Canada needs to assess, he said.

The high level of household debt in the country makes it even more crucial that individuals adjust their savings behaviour and plan over a longer horizon, he said in a speech in Toronto.

“As our society ages, we can either accept a lower standard of living or we can try to be proactive and adjust … The stakes are high and we cannot afford to ignore them,” Mr. Boivin said.

“There is no free lunch in that context ; something will have to give and someone will have to pick up the tab, so the least we can do is accept this fact and ensure that the bill remains small and that the burden is shared fairly.”


The mechanism for upward pressure on wages would be that with relatively fewer people left in the work force, employers will compete to attract talent.

Taken in isolation, he said, the scarcity of labour relative to capital could be expected to lead to higher wages and lower returns on capital in advanced economies, and eventually to persistently lower global interest rates.

Improved productivity, if any, would offset the downward pressure on rates.

But Canada’s tepid growth of productivity and potential output has preoccupied the central bank. Mr. Boivin said the latest estimate was for Canada’s potential output to grow by 2.2% in 2014, and without the decline in working age population it would be 0.2 percentage points higher.

“Aging is projected to continue to subtract from potential output growth until the end of the current decade,” he said.


He said Canada faced three options to avoid drastic declines in living standards or shifting too much burden on the next generations: more work, greater productivity and higher savings.

Without endorsing last week’s federal budget, he said policy steps could foster the needed adjustments and this was the objective of some of the measures in the budget.

The budget raised to 67 from 65 the age of eligibility for payments to seniors under its Old Age Security program, and hiked the age of retirement to 65 from 60 for new federal employees, starting next year.

Mr. Boivin also highlighted the important contribution of immigration to dealing with the aging problem. The budget announced plans to eliminate a backlog of stale applications by foreign skilled workers so that immigrants whose skills are in greater current demand can enter Canada faster.

He said a key challenge was to remove the barriers that keep educated and skilled immigrants from working in their fields.

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Whilst there is much I can agree with in this article, there are also some areas where I would disagree!

Certainly, IF there is a perception that the burden is not being shared fairly, then that could/would lead to a great deal of Public unrest.

However, to suggest that this Aging event will only affect the Local & Global Economy until the end of this decade is a gross understatement, as it will most likely affect events for 2-3 decades, at least!

When looking at the likely effects of Aging, it must not be forgotten that this Aging event will not happen in isolation and that Peak Energy, Peak Debt & Climate Change will also be adversely influencing Economic events, over that same 2-3 decade period.

So, hold onto your hats, because WE ARE ALL IN FOR A WILD RIDE!


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Reply #381 - Apr 9th, 2012 at 11:24am
 
America: Heading Towards Zero Population Growth?


The US population is growing at a declining rate and, without immigration, it will not grow at all in the 2030s and 2040s.

In the years following WW2 and until the mid 1960s, the US population grew by an average 1.6% per year. From the late 1960s to 2007, it grew by an average of 1% per year. Since then, the growth rate has fallen under 1%. On my calculations, it will remain below 1% for several decades and will fall well below 0.5% in the 2030s and 2040s. Without immigration, the size of the total population would flatline or shrink moderately in those decades.

Many, or possibly most, commentators mistakenly believe that US demographic growth will be robust for decades to come. This misconception is due in part to the fact that Europe and Japan have very poor demographics in comparison to the US. The number of Europeans and Japanese is indeed expected to decline while the American population continues to grow. But the rate of US population growth will also be declining for the next several decades.

It is widely known that immigration has been and will continue to be a key component of growth for the US population, but immigration is seen by many as an addition to the organic growth of the existing population, when in reality it will be the only source of growth in the 2030s and 2040s when organic growth will be flat or negative.

A recent report by the Census Bureau stated that the US population grew in 2011 at the lowest rate since 1940. It is a headline which will appear frequently in the future because population growth will be more or less level until 2020 and then it will fall until the late 2040s. The reason for this unusual phenomenon is quite simple. Due to the baby boomers' passing and a relatively lower birth rate in recent decades, the number of deaths will rise quickly while the number of births rises slowly.

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Reply #382 - Apr 11th, 2012 at 5:09pm
 
Growth of U.S. labor force is slowing, reports show


If demography is destiny, the U.S. economy may be in the midst of a decades-long slowdown.

The U.S. labor force is growing at about half the rate it was 20 years ago; according to recent projections by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, it will continue to expand at a slightly lower pace through 2020.

Slower growth in the number of workers tends to hold back gross domestic product and employment, economists say. And that makes it less likely that the economy will pick up steam at the rate it did in previous recessions.

These changes in the labor force “imply that future recessions will be deeper, and will have slower recoveries, than historically has been the case,” according to a paper issued last month by James H. Stock of Harvard University and Mark W. Watson of Princeton University.

Their research shows that as much as half of the relative slowness of the recent recovery may be attributable to the fact that the growth of the U.S. labor force has declined.

“The demographics turn out to be a very important factor,” Stock said in an interview.
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The slower growth in the labor force arises from two factors, according to the BLS. First, the U.S. population is growing more slowly. Second, the percentage of Americans working or seeking work will continue to decline as the population ages.

What exactly stalled the recovery from the recent recession and what might still be holding it back continue to be a matter of debate among economists and politicians.

The doddering nature of the recovery has been blamed on a variety of factors: the financial nature of the crisis, the fact that millions of homeowners are struggling with mortgage debt, the size of the government stimulus, as well as spiking gas prices, the Japanese earthquake and the European banking troubles.

The role of demographics has been relatively unexplored, and in contrast to those other causes, the decline in the labor force will probably be a persistent feature of the U.S. economy for the foreseeable future.

In the mid-1980s, the labor force — defined as the number of people working or seeking work — was growing at about 1.7 percent per year, according to Stock and Watson’s calculations. By the mid-2000s, the growth was just about half that, or 0.9 percent.

The growth, moreover, is anticipated to slow even more in the years to come. In labor force estimates published by the BLS, annual growth of the labor force shrinks to less than 0.6 percent by the end of the decade.

One of the primary causes for the decline of labor force growth is the retirement of the giant baby-boom generation. Last year, the first baby boomers, born in 1946, reached 65, the traditional age of retirement. They are less likely to work.

Second, through the 1990s, a rapid rise in the percentage of women working led to a surge in the size of the labor force. But once the percentage of women in the labor force reached about 60 percent, it stopped climbing, and economists see little immediate sign that it is likely to rise again.

The labor force participation of women “is as high as it has ever been,” said Claudia Goldin, a Harvard economics professor who has studied the issue. And “it has not gone higher in the last 20 years,” she said.

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Reply #383 - Apr 11th, 2012 at 8:30pm
 
I think China's real problem is a lack of gene pool variety.
hence why they are a nation of Replicants and not Original thinkers Wink
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Reply #384 - Apr 18th, 2012 at 4:59pm
 
Japan’s Population Declines by Record in Challenge for Growth


Japan’s population fell by a record last year, underlining the struggle to boost growth and rein in soaring welfare costs in the world’s most rapidly aging society.

The population declined by 0.2 percent to 127.8 million as of Oct. 1, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications said in a report today.

Japan faces a shrinking workforce as 2012 marks the first year the nation’s baby boomers are set to retire. The world’s third-largest economy has contracted three of the past four years and policy makers including
Bank of Japan Governor Masaaki Shirakawa have said low growth is mainly the result of demographic changes.


“It will definitely will negatively affect long-term economic activity, especially potential growth numbers,” said Junko Nishioka, chief economist at RBS Securities Japan Ltd. in Tokyo. “The generation of baby boomers are leaving the labor market and this demographic change could impact the fragility of the pension system.”

Japan is the world’s oldest society, with a median age of 44 years, according to a 2009 United Nations report.

“The most significant challenge confronting Japan is how to adjust to a rapid demographic change that is unprecedented in developed countries,”
Shirakawa said in a January speech.

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Social-security expenses, which have more than doubled in the past two decades, account for 52 percent of general spending in the fiscal year that began April 1. Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda has proposed doubling the national consumption tax, currently at 5 percent, by 2015 to address the fiscal pressures and contain the world’s biggest public debt.

The legislation faces resistance from opposition lawmakers as well as some in his own party who’ve warned about damping domestic demand.

People aged 65 or older comprised 23.3 percent of the entire population, compared with 23 percent for the year before, according to today’s report.

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Demographic IS
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Reply #385 - Sep 6th, 2012 at 11:59am
 
The Economy's New Boss: Demographics


The next President will have to contend with unfavorable demographics.

An enormous amount of money will be spent in the last few weeks of the presidential campaign. Each side will promote its candidate and his platform with much passion and conviction. In the end, one side will treat victory as the road to salvation and the other will see defeat as an unprecedented and largely irreversible calamity. But in reality, this time around, the identity of the winner will probably matter less to future growth prospects than in previous contests. This is because the demographic input in the economy for the next four years is already programmed on an immovable trajectory and it is less positive than in the past.

Because of the overhanging debt and a poor demographic picture, the next four years will continue to be challenging (though not necessarily recessionary), regardless of whether Barack Obama is re-elected or Mitt Romney replaces him. Like it or not, the boss of the economy, and therefore to some degree of all of us, will be demographics. One could argue that this boss has been with us since at least 2005 when the dependency ratio started to rise again in the United States.


Among all the important factors which drive economic growth, the demographic factor is now weaker than it has been in decades and as a result, domestic demand for most goods and services will be weaker than it has been in a long time. The most telling numbers are as follows:

    The U.S. population grew by over 1% a year until 2007 and is now growing by less than 1% per year. Its rate of growth will continue to decline as the number of baby boomer deaths rises relative to the number of new births. Since 2008, the U.S. total fertility ratio (TFR) has fallen below the replacement level of 2.1 and is now approaching 1.9 children per woman.

The total number of Americans aged 30 to 60 years, the most economically active bracket, grew by over 1% per year for 30 years, from the mid-1970s to around 2005. It has leveled off and will essentially remain flat at around 120-125 million until the end of this decade. Stagnation in the size of the most economically active bracket combined with growth in the young and elderly brackets will result in lower economic growth. I made a case here that the resulting effect on housing will not be positive.

    The U.S. dependency ratio, which is the sum of people under 14 and over 65, divided by the number of people aged 15-64, has declined for several decades from 0.67 in 1960 to 0.49 in 2005. But, according to UN estimates, it is now expected to climbback to 0.53 by 2015, 0.56 by 2020, 0.64 by 2030 and 0.67 by 2050.

Discretionary spending is bound to come under pressure as more funds are diverted to take care of dependents. I ran the numbers for these brackets here and they show that raising the retirement age from 67 to 70 would buy us some time and help the economy.

    Assuming a run rate of 1 million newcomers per year, immigration, though a clear net positive in the long run, will be insufficient to neutralize or reverse these negative effects in the short run. It would take a much greater number of immigrants to offset the slack.

Although much frustration is expressed on the stagnation of the economy, in particular the unemployment rate and the rising deficit, pinning the blame on one or the other of the two political parties ignores a stronger underlying dynamic. The next president of the United States (POTUS) will be similarly constrained as POTUS 43 (Bush) in his second term and POTUS 44 (Obama) and will have to implement some steps to mitigate the negative demographic effect. If demographics are failing us, there are other levers to stimulate growth - but we will need to work them harder.

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What happens when an the irresistible force meets the immovable object ?

Of course, niether is possible, as everything has limitations!

That said, from a human Economic perspective, the irresistible force is Energy (Demand, Supply & Price) & the immovable object is Demographics !

These are two of the primary influences over human Economics, particularly in the modern era, from around 1800 to now.

So, the question to be posed & answered, is what if niether the irresistible force or the immovable object, can be satisfactorily controled by the other great Economic forces of Politics, Economists & TPTB?

I would suggest that the question is already being posed and the answers will shortly be evident to most.

These answers will confirm that everything does indeed have limitations and that humanity will therefore, also be subject to limitations!
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Reply #386 - Sep 21st, 2012 at 1:05pm
 
Baby Boomer Demographics: The Shift Ahead


I've been maintaining a set of these pyramids to give us snapshots at 10-year intervals spanning seven decades. My pyramids differ from the ones available at the Census Bureau website in one key respect. The CB pyramids are based on population numbers by gender for each five-year cohort whereas mine are based on percentages. Why? Because, in the absence of an overpopulation problem, the shifting ratios over time are more important than the actual numbers. By using percentages on the horizontal axis, all pyramids add up to 100%.

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The chart above is a snapshot of the U.S. population 30 years ago in 1982. I've highlighted the top of the Boomer cohort, generally defined as those born during the inclusive 19-year period from 1946 to 1964. By selecting 1982 as our start date, the oldest Boomers have completely filled the age 30-34 bar in our chart and occupy the three bars below, with Generation X slipping into the bottom of the age 15-19 cohort.
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The movement of the Boomer bulge up the pyramid is obvious, as is the fact that it diminishes in size as mortality rates increase. The pyramid goes from a significantly lateral shape in 1982 to an increasingly vertical arch six decades later. At present and for the next decade, our pyramid is more of a "house" shape. The greater female longevity is readily apparent.

Let's look at some comparative numbers for these seven snapshots. I've calculated the Elderly Dependency Ratios for each using the standard formula: The percentage of the population age 65 and over divided by the percentage age 15-64 multiplied by 100 (see note at bottom).
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The elderly dependency ratio has major significance for U.S. budget planning. As this ratio shifts higher, the productive population is increasingly burdened by the cost of entitlement programs for the elderly.

Interestingly enough, it was 1982, the very year of our first pyramid chart, that President Reagan appointed the National Commission on Social Security Reform (aka the Greenspan Commission after its Chairman) to address the mounting financial problems of the Social Security system. The outcome included the gradual increase in the normal retirement age and taxation of benefits.
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My annotations on the dependency ratios chart above suggest that we are approaching a threshold of increasing demographic burden on the financial system. The ratio has only increased 16.7% in the three decades from 1982 to 2012. But the rise from 20.4 to 26.8 over the next ten years is a 31.6% increase followed by a 21.8% increase over the following ten years.

At present, those of us who follow the economy and financial markets are looking for evidence that European sovereign debt issues won't trigger another international financial crisis. How that plays out remains an uncertainty. In contrast, we can be very certain that our accelerating demographic shift will continue to increase the political debate on entitlement expenditures, especially on the eve of a presidential election.

Despite the current focus in the U.S. on stimulus (aka "Quantitative Easing"), lurking in the wings are demographic changes that will ultimately take center stage in the financial planning of federal, state and local governments. The process will increasingly affect individuals as we adjust our retirement expectations and strategies for insuring income during our elder years.

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In fact, there are quite a few variables, involved in the current Global Economic crisis!

However, one of the MOST significant is that it took all from the dawn of human history until around 1800, too get to ONE Billion people Globally.

By around 1930, the Global Population doubled to TWO Billion!

By the mid 1970's it doubled again to FOUR Billion!

Now, in 2012, we have a Global Population of just over SEVEN Billion!

There are a few other MAJOR factors influencing events, but the massive Population increase has sat quietly in the background, DRIVING the Economics of Demand & Supply.

That Exponential Population Growth is now grinding to a halt, in the US & Globally and as it does the old Economic rules of the "modern era" will become "Null & Void"!!!

Just for comparison, following is the standard/usual Population pyramid -
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One of the other major current influencing factors is the reality of Energy Demand/Supply Economics.

In this respect, since around the turn of the century the P/barrel Oil Price has gone from $10, to $147, down to $40 & back up to $100 or so.

IMO the Oil Price will again Decline, as the Global Economy goes into another Severe Recession. However, that Price drop will only be for a limited time, until it becomes apparent that Oil Production is not expanding to keep up with Population & Economic needs and then it will again take off & then it will simply keep going!

Btw, Saudi may still have some spare Production capacity, but only for a limited time and pretty much all other countries & fields are already in a Depletion phase. The Saudi's must also be joining that club soon, as theirs may be the biggest fields, but they are also the oldest!
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Reply #387 - Sep 22nd, 2012 at 9:09am
 
As previously stated, history is very unlikely to repeat exactly, as the circumstances invariably differ, but there may be apparent similarities, particularly initially!

On the issue of birthrates, the following chart may clarify a the actual position, which is that the US birthrate, much like most of the world, actually bottomed out in the mid 1930's, which is earlier than most think and then started a slow climb during the Depression years, it gained more steam during WW2. It then took off sharply after WW2, but started to lose steam and it has been in Decline, pretty much ever since. That also matches up with the Economic Growth which started to take off in the early to mid 1980's, following the Demographic boom some 50 years on, which is our Peak Earning & Spending age. 

It is also worth noting the Baby Boom prior to the Great Depression & the Roaring Twenties, was actually at a higher birth rate than that of the Baby Boomer generation, albeit from a lower base and that may have had some influence on the Roaring Twenty/Great Depression Boom/Bust cycle.

The difference between then & now, is that there was still scope for another huge Baby Boom back then, whereas that is just not possible now, because of inherent natural resource shortages in areas such as Energy, Water & Food!

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U.S. Births 1930-2007
Year      Births
1930      2.2 million
1933      2.31 million
1935      2.15 million
1940      2.36 million
1941      2.5 million
1942      2.8 million
1943      2.9 million
1944      2.8 million
1945      2.8 million
1946      3.47 million
1947      3.9 million
1948      3.5 million
1949      3.56 million
1950      3.6 million
1951      3.75 million
1952      3.85 million
1953      3.9 million
1954      4 million
1955      4.1 million
1956      4.16 million
1957      4.3 million
1958      4.2 million
1959      4.25 million
1960      4.26 million
1961      4.3 million
1962      4.17 million
1963      4.1 million
1964      4 million
http://geography.about.com/od/populationgeography/a/babyboom_2.htm

As for Doug Shorts charts, from the previous post, they are only for the US, I assume he has put them together correctly and they seem about right. In terms of other countries, particularly those the world countries with currently relatively high birth rates, I would suggest it is likely that those rates will not continue. In fact, it is likely those rates will collapse.

The outcome of all this is that the high Demand side Economy, which has pervaded modern Global Economics is slowly being constricted and the Exponential Economic Growth Fairy is now in the process of slowly being squeezed to death, by the Economic Boa Constrictor, commonly called Demographics! 
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Reply #388 - Oct 8th, 2012 at 1:59pm
 
Employment: A decline in the participation rate was expected due to the aging population

10/07/2012

I've written extensively on the reasons for the decline in the participation rate. Unfortunately some people haven't been paying attention.

Two key points:
1.   Some of the recent decline in the participation rate has been to due to cyclical issues (severe recession), but
MOST of the decline in the overall participation rate over the last decade has been due to the aging of the population
. There are also some long term trends toward lower participation for younger workers pushing down the overall participation rate.

2.   This decline in the participation rate has been expected for years. Here are three projections (two from before the recession started). The key to these projections is that the decline in the participation rates was expected:
1) From BLS economist Mitra Toossi in November 2006: A new look at long-term labor force projections to 2050
2) From Austin State University Professor Robert Szafran in September 2002: Age-adjusted labor force participation rates, 1960–2045
3) BLS economist Mitra Toossi released some new projections for the participation rate as of January 2012: Labor force projections to 2020: a more slowly growing workforce.

Here is a graph of the actual overall participation rate and a few projections through 2040. The participation rate might increase a little over the next year or two, but in the longer term, the overall participation rate will probably continue to decline until 2040.
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Once again, this is not a surprise. Sven Jari Stehn at Goldman Sachs put out a research note early last year arguing:


[T]here is little evidence for the idea that an “unduly” low participation rate is masking an even weaker labor market than indicated by the ... unemployment rate. Instead, we find that most of the drop in participation in recent years reflects changes in the underlying demographics and the “normal” effects of the economic cycle (i.e., the fact that [the] unemployment rate in itself is very high).


Bottom line: If someone says the "actual" unemployment rate is much higher than reported because of the decline in the participation rate,
they are unaware of a key demographic shift.



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http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2012/10/employment-decline-in-participation.ht...
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Bottom line: The "actual" unemployment rate would be much higher, IF the decline in the participation rate was not there,
because of the Aging demographic shift.


As stated previuously, IF the Economy were to improve a little OR just stay on an even keel, then the UNemployment rate would decrease, due to the massive Baby Boomer Retirements.

Regrettably, I suspect that TSWHTF, due to the effects of those Boomer Reirements & a few other issues, the Economy will follow and the UNemployment rate will also start to escalate, notwithstanding the massive job openings which would otherwise be created, Millions of Boomers Retiring & therefore leaving Millions of positions for the following generations to fill.
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Re: The Population Debate
Reply #389 - Nov 5th, 2012 at 7:28pm
 
The Real Threat For Investors: U.S. Population


As of November 3, 2012, the resident population of U.S. is projected to be 314,700,000 (see the screen shot below captured directly from U.S. Consensus Bureau).
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The current projection is based on the following:

    One birth every 8 seconds
    One death every 13 seconds
    One international migrant (net) every 44 seconds
    Net gain of one person every 15 seconds

However, the U.S. birth rate had been plunging since the recession started in 2007, and it fell below population-sustaining levels in 2010. It's projected to fall to a 25-year low this year and not recover to pre-recession levels anytime soon, according to the consulting firm Demographic Intelligence, as reported by Bonnie Kavoussi from The Huffington Post. It will cost a middle-income family nearly $300,000 to raise a child born today from infancy to age 17, when accounting for projected inflation, according to the Department of Agriculture. The situation is made worse as 38 percent of all unemployed workers in the U.S. are between 20 and 34 years old, according to the Labor Department. From economic standpoint, we can say the rate of "supply" is decreasing for the future working population.

Baby Boomers
While 76 million baby boomers, broadly defined as people who were born during the demographic post-World War II baby boom between 1946 and 1964, began to cross the age of 60 around 2005, the trend of decreasing existing working force began.

Decreasing birth rate and increasing aging baby boomers are negatively impacting the economic growth. This effect will spread out to all economic sectors, including housing, education, healthcare and many others.


According to the Age Wave Theory, it suggested an economic slowdown when the boomers start retiring during 2007-2009, as reported by Reuters in 2008. Looking back, 2008 and 2009 were terrible if not devastating for stock investors due to the financial crisis. Are sub-prime mortgage and derivative products the cause for the financial meltdown or was it the result of huge accumulation of wealth during the golden era of baby boomers? I would say both.


It is also projected that by 2020, 25% of employees will be at least 55 years old, as reported by L. Casey Chosewood, MD from NIOSH Science Blog. [b]Furthermore,[/b] according to the 2011 Associated Press and LifeGoesStrong.com surveys on baby boomers:

    60% lost value in investments because of the economic crisis
    42% are delaying retirement
    25% claim they will never retire.


While the above numbers are subjected to further research and validation and may not reflect the full picture, it is safe to say that baby boomers will retire at a slower speed. It's hard to tell if it's good or bad for the current economy, but it is estimated that baby boomers control over 80% of personal financial assets and more than half of all consumer spending. They buy 77% of all prescription drugs, 61% of over-the-counter drugs, and 80% of all leisure travel. If baby boomers stay working, they will stay spending. With the current economy, I dare not to say leisure activities will increase; however, healthcare and medication demand will continue to grow with the aging trend. A few quality investment targets in the healthcare industry will be presented and summarized in my next article.

The Numbers
Going back to our first number of 314,700,000, the projection assumption of one birth every 8 seconds may become longer with the slowing birth rate and the one death every 13 seconds may also become longer with advancing healthcare and treatment technology. To grow the economy, we need to have more babies and take good care of baby boomers. For investors, this U.S. population trend will be a good indicator of where the money is shifting to. No doubt, healthcare is the new gold mine.

Link -
http://seekingalpha.com/article/976001-the-real-threat-for-investors-u-s-populat...
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Whilst many sectors will be seriously & adversely affected, by the current GFC, both Healtcare & the Funeral industry may be two areas, which may not fare well, but they may not fare as badly as most sectors.
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