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Reply #135 - Oct 9th, 2010 at 4:41pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 8th, 2010 at 6:32pm:
<<The US Fed Reserve chairman, shocked Global markets in a speech, where he confirmed that the USA was in deep crap and he reminded us mere mortals that, WE (mere mortals) are going to pay for it!>>
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lol, I'm glad he explained that, and here I was thinking that the perpetrators would pay for it.

It is pleasing to see that the US congress are looking into the foreclosure debacle over there, too little, too late for many, but it could have a positive outcome for a considerable number of unfortunate families in the future.

The Wall St brigade are carrying on exactly the same as before the crash, except they are being a lot less exuberant about it.They haven't learnt a lesson, but who would expect them to? The only good thing to come out of a stock market crash is to see their crying faces.

Do you think our dollar is over valued perce?
 


It would be even better, IF they actually took some real & positive action! However, I suspect the only reason it is "being looked at", is the amount of publicity involved & the practical difficulties of continuing at this point.
We await the outcome!


Well, anything is possible, but at this point, it would seem likely that there is more upside for the OZ$, mainly because there is more downside likely for the US$, with another bout of Quantitative Easing (Money Laundering printing), seeming likely in the USA !
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Reply #136 - Oct 9th, 2010 at 8:28pm
 
Yep, everything is going up and thankfully I don't have a Home Loan to wring me dry and put me into further debt than the one I originally borrowed.
Word of advice - pay off everything you owe as quick as possible !!!!

Mugabe has this to say:  Grin Grin Grin
...I told everyone that the UK was in the wrong 'twice' in Zimbabwe.
Roll Eyes

This time though - I don't think there will be a 'crash' to bring the Hyper-Inflation back down to earth for at least 10 years. Everyone is going out to rip everyone else off!!!

Words of advice: Don't buy anything, especially anything that will cost you $$ching-ching to maintain, run, etc.
(...like children Roll Eyes Grin)

And with this Yazz would like to say
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtKADQnjQmc
as we head into another Economic Adversity as tough as the Great Depression was.
You know so - because we were all given fair warning a year or so back. Wink

All the Best and may the Force be with you. Smiley
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Reply #137 - Oct 9th, 2010 at 10:16pm
 
It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Oct 9th, 2010 at 8:28pm:
Yep, everything is going up and thankfully I don't have a Home Loan to wring me dry and put me into further debt than the one I originally borrowed.
Word of advice - pay off everything you owe as quick as possible !!!!


Mugabe has this to say:  Grin Grin Grin
...I told everyone that the UK was in the wrong 'twice' in Zimbabwe.
Roll Eyes

This time though - I don't think there will be a 'crash' to bring the Hyper-Inflation back down to earth for at least 10 years. Everyone is going out to rip everyone else off!!!

Words of advice: Don't buy anything, especially anything that will cost you $$ching-ching to maintain, run, etc.
(...like children Roll Eyes Grin)

And with this Yazz would like to say
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtKADQnjQmc
as we head into another Economic Adversity as tough as the Great Depression was.
You know so - because we were all given fair warning a year or so back. Wink

All the Best and may the Force be with you. Smiley


I'm not sure that everything will be going up, you may find a split between some things goin up, whilst others may go down?

I agree with you comment on Debt, as I have put it, many times -
Good luck & watch the Debt!
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Reply #138 - Oct 15th, 2010 at 2:20pm
 
For those interested in a perspective of the Future of the OZ$ / US$ exchange rate.

http://noir.bloomberg.com/avp/avp.htm?N=av&T=Kyriakopoulos%20Says%20Australian%2...
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I tend to agree there is more upside left, but I am less certain on the suggested RBA rate hikes suggested in the above video.
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Reply #139 - Oct 20th, 2010 at 3:33pm
 
Social Security Going Bust … Not on the Boomers Watch!


On Aug. 5, the Social Security Board of Trustees released its annual report on the financial health of the Social Security Trust Funds and the long-range outlook remains unchanged. The Social Security Trust Funds will be exhausted in 2037; the same as projected last year (note that in 2008 it was projected to be exhausted in 2041). The Trustees also project that program costs will exceed tax revenues in 2010 and 2011, be less than tax revenues in 2012 through 2014, and then permanently exceed tax revenues beginning 2015, one year earlier than estimated in last year’s report. The worsening of the short-range outlook for the Social Security Trust Funds is due in large part to the recent economic downturn and the fact that Social Security is funded by a payroll tax. Thus, less Americans working in turn means less revenue for Social Security.

To understand how Social Security got to this point you probably need a little history lesson on how the program began. In 1933 America was in the deepest and darkest depths of the Great Depression. Social conditions had reached an explosive point because of the unemployment of one-fourth of the labor force. Franklin D. Roosevelt (FDR) and the New Dealers were in a precarious and potentially disastrous situation with masses of angry young men demonstrating in the streets. Roosevelt had already seen where these situations could lead by the examples set in Germany and Italy. It was exactly these conditions that gave rise to both Hitler and Mussolini. The New Dealers’ plan to get young people working again was to offer a public pension so the older men would retire, hence the birth of Social Security.

FDR and the New Dealers settled on the age of 65 in 1935 to collect Social Security benefits, however keep in mind that the average life expectancy in America at that time was 63 years.

With all of this bad news, it is no wonder that Americans are beginning to feel very concerned about the solvency of the Social Security system and whether or not it will be there for them. However, it is my opinion that it will and has to be there. Consider that nine out of 10 Americans, age 65 and older receive Social Security and for 32% of these people it is 90% or more of their income. For middle class America, Social Security ends up replacing close to 40% of their pre-retirement income. I don’t believe these statistics are going to change much. Given that the median 401(k) account balance for long tenured employees (employees with over 20 years with same employer) within a salary range of $40,000 to $60,000 per year is approximately $74,000 and the fact that 48% of individuals not yet retired believe they will not have enough money to maintain their current lifestyle in retirement, how can Social Security just simply float away? Imagine the economic turmoil this would cause. Many Americans would not be able to afford the basics such as food and shelter. States would see their sales tax revenues decrease sharply as many retirees would simply be forced to limit consumption. So, how do we “fix” the System? Remember, that we have the largest generation in history just starting to become eligible for benefits.
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And, that is only part of the story!

There is also Health Services that are set to increase massively and a rapid decline in essential personnel, as massive numbers of Baby Boomers now start to retire!
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Reply #140 - Oct 21st, 2010 at 8:03am
 
I find it interesting how a slight increase in interest rates in China can rattle Wall street so easily as shown in the last couple of days, and of course there was a feed on to the stockmarket and the Aussie dollar dropped a cent. 

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Reply #141 - Oct 21st, 2010 at 2:05pm
 
muso wrote on Oct 21st, 2010 at 8:03am:
I find it interesting how a slight increase in interest rates in China can rattle Wall street so easily as shown in the last couple of days, and of course there was a feed on to the stockmarket and the Aussie dollar dropped a cent.  



There are plenty of games being played out!

Certainly, one rate increase isn't huge, in normal times, but these are far from normal times and markets are very flighty.

Those same markets ARE also being massages/manipulated to accentuate certain outcomes.

One of the problems being that there are different ideas on what the desired outcomes should be and the possibility of miscalculations are high.

Btw, there are suggestions that China may raise again another 4 times next year? There are also suggestions that China is angling for the Yuan to take over as the US$ exits?

Of course, it could simply be that there was a DOWn day with no apparent reason, so the media found one?

Mind you, there have been a few unexplainable market increases recently, so perhaps we were due for an unexplainable market decrease?

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Reply #142 - Oct 23rd, 2010 at 11:01pm
 
Beware the 'baby bust' - boomers to retire and stop paying taxes


A study from KPMG and research firm Ipsos says taxpayers need to be prepared for the start of a 'baby bust' over the next decade, as baby boomers start retiring from the workforce.

The report, called 'Future Focus' and which examines what Australia will look like in 2020, is based on demographic trends and feedback from focus groups of key business leaders and consumers.

It concludes that the Australian economy has benefited from 45 years of baby boomers moving into and remaining in the workforce, including their contributions to the spending and investment spree that preceded the global financial crisis. The oldest baby boomers, born just after the war, start to turn 65 next year.

Some commentators warn that this change could have huge financial ramifications as baby boomers sell their houses and businesses, but Salt says he is not so pessimistic, and holds that many boomers will probably need to work longer than expected to fund retirement.

'From 2011 onwards, the demographic underpinning the workforce, and to the tax base provided by the boomers, slowly unravels,' Salt says.

Many of them have inadequate superannuation, given the compulsory superannuation system only began in 1992. The study predicts that, because of the demands on the government's coffers as this generation looks to tax-supported retirement funding, the boomers are also likely to boost the growing acceptance of older workers staying on in the workforce for longer, at least part-time.

While Salt says most of the next decade's demographic trends are set, the report underlines a number of trends that will occur over the next 10 years:

•Our population will increase by three million to around 25 million. Populations of Melbourne, Sydney and south east Queensland to increase by 500,000.
•The strongest population growth will be in the 30 to 34 years and the 64 to 75 year age groups.
•The 30 to 34 year olds will need affordable housing options, with an emphasis on apartments.
•Migrant uptake is likely to continue to mostly come from New Zealand, China and India
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There are a number of things that are likely to happen & some that will not, including -

1) The tax base, Will shrink!
2) Government Expenses (State & Federal), Will increase!
3) Demand for Goods & Services, Will Decline!
4) Immigration, Will NOT continue to rise exponentially!
5) Our Total Population, Will NOT continue to expand exponentially! In fact, it will actually start to Decline, within the next 20-30 years!
6) Our Energy Cost to GDP ratio, Will increase significantly, great increasing all costs and putting new infrastructure at risk!
7) Our Food Production, Will Decline per capita, to a point where we can no longer sustain a growing Population!
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Reply #143 - Oct 24th, 2010 at 8:51am
 
Why Bernanke Can't Win, But Will Kill the Dollar Trying


Fed Chairman Bernanke faces three huge deflationary forces, but he only sees part of one of them – the credit deleveraging. He doesn’t realize that there has been a generational change to the Millennials and GenXers who are averse to debt.

He doesn’t realize the deflationary impact of demographics as 71 million baby boomers retire. He doesn’t have a clue about the Moore’s Law-driven deflationary impact of technology.

He doesn’t know that neither monetary nor fiscal policy can do anything useful against these forces. And that’s why he will QE the dollar to death, never realizing that he’s trying to hold back the tide with a strainer.

The US economy is in the grip of three powerful deflationary forces
The first is deleveraging and the credit bust. Everyone sees this one, but few realize there is a powerful generational driver behind it that will not respond to fiscal stimulus, monetary expansion, cheerleading or any other of the arrows in the government's quiver.

The second powerful deflationary force is demographics – the aging and retirement of the baby boomers. For some reason, little attention is paid to this one either, even though the numbers are obvious and huge. And again, this demographic driver will not respond to government tinkering with the macro, top-down economy.

The third powerful deflationary force, which no one seems to see except me and, now, you, is the accelerating spread of technology.

So should you position yourself for a serious deflation – Great Depression II

One powerful inflationary force
We are not going into a downward spiral because these three deflationary forces are up against a far more powerful countervailing force: Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke. He is an expert on the Great Depression, he wrote his thesis on it, he taught it, and he has every intention of avoiding Great Depression II on his watch at the Fed.

But Bernanke has chosen – had to choose, given his background – the way of the oak. Stand tall, be strong, be rigid, don’t give an inch to the storm and there’s a 99% chance you’ll survive. Which leaves a 1% chance we lose the whole country.

Those are the percentages in his mind, because he only sees the credit deleveraging part of the storm. Demographics and technology have not crossed his mind, although they are up front in this book. And they make the odds of the oak still standing something closer to 70% than 99%. As Bernanke applies his powerful, inappropriate tools to avoiding Great Depression II, there is a 70% chance he is going to cause the Great Inflation.

There is a 30% chance he will make a misstep or be blindsided by demographics and technology, and cause a Hyperinflation. In a Hyperinflation, society breaks down. No one will accept the currency.

Either the Great Inflation or a Hyperinflation might be followed by Great Depression II sometime in the future, but Bernanke will be long gone from the Fed by then.
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http://seekingalpha.com/article/231094-why-bernanke-can-t-win-but-will-kill-the-...
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As usual, I don't agree with everything in the article, but the author does make some valid points!

For starters, he does not refer to THE TWO primary macro forces, Peak Oil &/or the Global Decline in Population Growth and the eventual, actual fall in Global Population.

He also refers to 71 million Baby Boomers, whereas its closer to 80 million, just in the USA & around 1.75 Billion Globally.

And, I'm not sure about GenXers already being averse to debt, but they will learn, as time passes!

But he does make the point, that Bernanke has pre-conceptions about what the problems & solutions are, as do others and that is why Bernanke is now FED chairman.

However, if your basic perceptions are incorrect, then the chance of fixing the actual problems, is pretty zero or at a minimum, the chances of making miscalculations are high!
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Reply #144 - Nov 7th, 2010 at 10:30pm
 
The end of the world. That is, the end of the world we’ve known since WWII


Summary:  A status report about the end of the post-WWII world.  The great recession has accellerated the process, revealing its weaknesses and showing the people of the rapidly growing emerging nations that they have outgrown it.  The US is almost its lone defender, a futile effort wasting time and resources that could be spent adjusting to the new world being born.

The post-WWII era slowly winds down, slowly but noisily.  It consists so far of two sets of interrelated dynamics.  

First, a reversion to the mean of history:  the center of economic power returns to the East, ending a few hundred year long aberration.

The economic and political regimes of the developed nations (US, Japan, Europe) are failing under pressure of aging demographics and their accumulated public policy errors.
Growth in the Emerging Nations (EM’s) is accelerating as they adopt modern social and technological patterns.

Second, the foundations of the post-WWII’s geopolitical and financial regimes are washing away:
western leadership, with the US and Russia as hegemonic powers,
US dollar as the reserve currency,
free trade, and
(since 1970) free capital flows between nations.

How long will the transition take?
Large transitions take one or even two generations. The long peace (1815-1914) was the greatest period of peace and prosperity in recorded history.  The transition which followed, 1914-1945, was painful. Poverty during the Great Depression.  Megadeaths from two world wars and several civil wars, and a plague (the 1918 flu).

The pace and nature of this transition are unknowable, despite the gurus who speak as if they read the 2100 AD Britannica. We can only guess about the shape of the new world that lies beyond.  It depends on choices we all will made, choices we do not yet understand.

A note about inflation
The US government has thrown a “Hail Mary” pass (i.e., QE2) to prevent deflation, deflation potentially lethal for a high-debt economy like ours.  Despite that, many are hysterical about prospect of inflation or even hyperinflation.  This confusion is typical of the confusion brought about by transitions. People run about with fire extinguishers while their house floods.

A note about oil
Global growth, from the EM’s, is boosting oil consumption.  At some point, peak oil will further complicate our lives.  First comes political peaking, as OPEC becomes unwilling to expand investment and production.  Eventually production will hit geological constraints.

When this happens depends on investment decisions (especially in OPEC), global growth, and geological constraints. Already the precursor to peak oil, falling EROI (energy return on investment), is pushing up energy prices.

What happens as production costs rise and production constraints multiply?  Oil prices must rise to destroy the excess demand.  Since oil demand is inelastic with respect to prices, prices must rise a lot to destroy demand.  Spikes in energy price rises are deflationary (as we saw in 2008), unless central banks (CB’s) respond with monetary easing (as they did in the 1970s). CB’s of emerging nations experiencing the inflationary effects of rapid growth and a falling US dollar are unlikely to easy and exacerbate the inflation.  CB’s of most developed nations are unlikely to do so, for different and complex reasons.

A note about the pace of change
Crowds are often poor at recognizing the early stages of change. Sometimes they remains delusionally complacent and then experiences rapid collective recognition. The classic example is WWI. The crisis started on June 28 with the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand of Austria. People (and markets) remained calm despite rapidly rising geopolitical tensions until major mobilizations began on July 30. Then people freaked out, too late.
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I believe we are now at a point where Oil Prices will rise again, due to Production not being able to keep up with Demand.

Those rising Prices will again take too large a % of disposable income, for Individuals, Businesses & Government/s, the Global Economy will relapse again and along with it, so to will share markets also collapse.

Oil Prices will then start a relentless rise in Prices, Oil scarcity will then commence and so starts the long decline of the age of Oil.
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Reply #145 - Nov 8th, 2010 at 6:55am
 
I suppose you have to roll with the punches to a certain extent, but I think we're a bit complacent (nay apathetic) here in Australia.

It wasn't too long ago that our dollar was under 50 cents U.S.
A bit further back, our interest rates were 18% and unemployment was very high.

I wonder how we'd handle such a situation nowadays?
It would seem that we have an almost realistically-perfect economy atm; low unemployment, low interest rates, low inflation.
The politicians and economists of yesteryear would surely see this day as an almost economic nirvana wouldn't they?

On the down side:
Fuel prices are still comparatively high vs. disposable income.  Household debt vs. disposable income is extremely high, mainly due to increased property prices.. and credit card debt also plays a smalliish role.

Food costs have also risen, so there seems to have been a bit of a "trade off" with food and shelter there...because food and shelter ain't really that important are they?

Energy prices have also risen sharply. Forego some warmth and cooling.
Most of us find it hard to make savings on energy costs nomatter how hard we try.
We switched to gas, and now gas is expensive. We fill our homes with energy saving light globes and appliances. It's still expensive, to the point that going back to the days of wasting energy would be unaffordable to an average Australian wage.

If we sway from our current economic nirvana, we may find it a bit harder to handle than we did 20 years ago. And 20yrs is really nothing to the economic plan that we must employ. Though it's a long time in a person's life.i

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Reply #146 - Nov 8th, 2010 at 9:31am
 
perceptions_now wrote on Nov 7th, 2010 at 10:30pm:
I believe we are now at a point where Oil Prices will rise again, due to Production not being able to keep up with Demand.

Those rising Prices will again take too large a % of disposable income, for Individuals, Businesses & Government/s, the Global Economy will relapse again and along with it, so to will share markets also collapse.

Oil Prices will then start a relentless rise in Prices, Oil scarcity will then commence and so starts the long decline of the age of Oil.



Yeah, I knew that this would come. The poor performance of the US economy is holding it back at this moment in time, but eventually it will happen. It's all a question of timing, that's all. I'm thinking March 2011 at this stage.

My strategy up to now is to convert my Super to cash units near the top, and convert again to High Risk when the market is at its lowest. Purchasing High risk units when they are cheap like that has worked up to now, but the risk is always a prolonged bear market.

Do you think that the next bear market will be as bad as the last or worse?
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Reply #147 - Nov 8th, 2010 at 10:19am
 
Nice to see your "spiritual" self Muso. so concerned about the world's wellbeing  Grin

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Reply #148 - Nov 8th, 2010 at 11:59am
 
muso wrote on Nov 8th, 2010 at 9:31am:
perceptions_now wrote on Nov 7th, 2010 at 10:30pm:
I believe we are now at a point where Oil Prices will rise again, due to Production not being able to keep up with Demand.

Those rising Prices will again take too large a % of disposable income, for Individuals, Businesses & Government/s, the Global Economy will relapse again and along with it, so to will share markets also collapse.

Oil Prices will then start a relentless rise in Prices, Oil scarcity will then commence and so starts the long decline of the age of Oil.



Yeah, I knew that this would come. The poor performance of the US economy is holding it back at this moment in time, but eventually it will happen. It's all a question of timing, that's all. I'm thinking March 2011 at this stage.

My strategy up to now is to convert my Super to cash units near the top, and convert again to High Risk when the market is at its lowest.
1) Purchasing High risk units when they are cheap like that has worked up to now, but the risk is always a prolonged bear market.


2) Do you think that the next bear market will be as bad as the last or worse?



1) You are correct, that has been THE strategy, for quite some time, buy at the height of the risk and sell nearing the top of the market!

But there are always rules & exceptions, buy low & sell high is the rule and this is THE exception!

2) Unless there is some very well hidden or brand new discovery, to replace Oil, particularly in the LIQUIDS FOR TRANSPORT ARENA, then the current GFC is likely to become the longest & worst bear market in history.

And, even if there is some well hidden or new discovery regarding Oil, there are a number of other factors in play, which are & will continue to prevent the usual Economic bounceback. There are also lengthy timelines involved to transition to new Energy sources and we are already well behind that clock!

That's not to say there won't be many ups & downs, it just means the trend will be down for quite some time.

So, this is the exception because there are  now so many basic macro factors affecting the market ups & downs, which have never been in play before and TPTB have spread so much confusion, it is & will be, difficult for most of us mere mortals to pick whats happening, until it is too late.

In other words, the share market may drop 20-40% in a week, any week and we may normally have started to buy back in, but given all that is going on, the markets could bouceback a little or continue to fall another 20-40%.

There are just too many variables and as I had retirement in view back in 2006, that's why I decided safety was the only option for me, that's why I got completely out of shares and given the long term nature of this beast, that's why I am unlikely to return to the share market!  


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Reply #149 - Nov 9th, 2010 at 9:09am
 
Amadd wrote on Nov 8th, 2010 at 10:19am:
Nice to see your "spiritual" self Muso. so concerned about the world's wellbeing  Grin



Oh I'm concerned about the world's wellbeing. I'm also concerned about sustained personal wealth  Tongue

The two are not necessarily at odds with each other.  Wink

Perceptions - I agree totally with your take on shares. It's all a question of age and risk acceptance.
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