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The Peak Energy Debate
Jun 19th, 2010 at 10:40am
 
Our Dependency on Foreign Oil

Jon Stewart's eight minute piece illustrating the populist talking point that is U.S. Presidents vowing to reduce our dependence on foreign oil is a must watch. Click and watch and laugh at the absurdity of the ceaseless rhetoric, which continued this week.
As Stewart says, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me eight times - am I a smacking idiot?"

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The Daily Show With Jon Stewart Mon - Thurs 11p / 10c
An Energy-Independent Future
http://seekingalpha.com/article/210687-our-dependency-on-foreign-oil?source=emai...
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A definate, must watch!

This guy is good, funny & makes the points, well!

Btw, the "Seeking Alpha" site, is quite good for a variety of "financial perspectives".
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Reply #1 - Jun 19th, 2010 at 5:41pm
 
Try to view this video  - but alas no luck on dial up .. Embarrassed

However would like to comment that satire is missing badly in Australia to keep our politicians at bay... Cry

Satire has it place !
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Reply #2 - Jun 20th, 2010 at 7:04am
 
Enjoyed the video perce. I liked the plant products for gasahol, now that's innovative.  Two wars and a giant spill - it's a lot to overcome.
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Reply #3 - Jun 20th, 2010 at 1:18pm
 
What happens when energy resources deplete?


This article is lengthy, so I will only post some small segments and a few graphs.

However, the whole article is worth a read!
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6574
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Peak Oil and Exponential Growth
Oil supplies are expected not just to level off, but to actually decline. Part of this happens because of the natural decline rate of conventional oil fields, as the finite amount of oil that is in the field is extracted.

The decline is likely to be more severe than historical decline rates (2% to 8% per year) would suggest, for two reasons mentioned earlier:

1. Declining credit availability, as high default rates continue among buyers. Lack of credit will tend to keep oil prices low, and discourage investment.

2. Higher tax rates on fossil fuels. Governments are short of funds and oil companies are temping targets. If tax rates are raised, this will likely cut back production, since oil companies base investment decisions on expected after-tax profit, and this will be lower for many projects.
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Reply #4 - Jun 21st, 2010 at 11:25am
 
Tic Tic Tic .....We’re not  out of oil … yet

BUT  are we running out of time to prepare for Peak Oil  Angry


http://www.brushtail.com.au/july_04_on/oil_running_out_of_time.html

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Reply #5 - Jun 21st, 2010 at 11:29am
 
Cuba is a great model for surviving with minimal oil.
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Reply #6 - Jun 21st, 2010 at 11:38am
 
Annie Anthrax wrote on Jun 21st, 2010 at 11:29am:
Cuba is a great model for surviving with minimal oil.

Dont they use a recycled cooking oil? I'd love to go to Cuba, all those old cars fat cigars and latin woman.
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Reply #7 - Jun 21st, 2010 at 11:43am
 
When the crisis hit, they were blindsided. It took a few years for the soil to be properly productive - they had to grow organic because they no longer had chemical fertilisers. Every spare patch of land in the cities was turned into urban gardens to grow food.

There are horse-drawn buses in Havana, and probably other places too. It's a trip to watch.

I think there was a period of about 3 years where they really struggled (the average Cuban lost about 10kg), but they came out well.
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Reply #8 - Jun 21st, 2010 at 11:47am
 


Good points, Annie - I have a great video on Cuba's paradigm socio-economic shift...

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Is it online?
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Reply #10 - Jun 21st, 2010 at 12:06pm
 


Annie Anthrax wrote on Jun 21st, 2010 at 11:54am:
Is it online?



It's called 'The Power of Community: How Cuba Survived Peak Oil' - and it is definitely available online - via YouTube and elsewhere...

For starters, see: http://www.powerofcommunity.org/cm/index.php

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Reply #11 - Jun 21st, 2010 at 12:08pm
 
Ah, yes. I've seen it - it's very good.
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Reply #12 - Jun 21st, 2010 at 12:08pm
 
Annie Anthrax wrote on Jun 21st, 2010 at 11:43am:
When the crisis hit, they were blindsided. It took a few years for the soil to be properly productive - they had to grow organic because they no longer had chemical fertilisers. Every spare patch of land in the cities was turned into urban gardens to grow food.
There are horse-drawn buses in Havana, and probably other places too. It's a trip to watch.

I think there was a period of about 3 years where they really struggled (the average Cuban lost about 10kg), but they came out well.


Take that Global, plus add a few extra obstacles, you then have a much more local economy and a disappearing Globilisation!  
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Reply #13 - Jun 21st, 2010 at 12:12pm
 

http://www.communitysolution.org/poc.html

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Reply #14 - Jun 21st, 2010 at 12:14pm
 


Annie Anthrax wrote on Jun 21st, 2010 at 12:08pm:
Ah, yes. I've seen it - it's very good.


Somehow, I suspected as much - but I posted the info for the benefit of others anyway...

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