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Reply #255 - Apr 27th, 2011 at 11:49am
 
Firstly, Hi perceptions..

I was watching TV over easter and news of a weed plant  being trial grown of which  the seed produces oil, was very Intriguing. What was also excellent  was that this Weed shrub/tree grows well in drought and bad soils. They currenly use the plant to stop soil erosion  in desert countries.
# ... wish I could remember the trial country and the name of the plant but I wasn't well at the time.

Next, I came across this recommendation of a read. A power point presentation 71 page article on Peak oil. I have not access it as my computer runs to slow to do so. But didnt want the link to go to waste... Roll Eyes

http://www.aspo-australia.org.au/References/Bruce/Brussels-2.ppt


keep up your good work   Wink
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Reply #256 - Apr 27th, 2011 at 2:26pm
 
Fracking Hell: The Untold Story




Interesting, it certainly raises some questions -
1) What is the long term cost/benefit relationship?
2) What are the long term Health concerns?
3) What studies have been done or are planned?

Given some of the Health concerns raised, this would appear to be another instance of Business "getting the nod" to proceed, from Politicians getting the nod with proceeds, without all due processes being undertaken!
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Reply #257 - Apr 27th, 2011 at 3:13pm
 
Quote:
Firstly, Hi perceptions..

I was watching TV over easter and news of a weed plant  being trial grown of which  the seed produces oil, was very Intriguing. What was also excellent  was that this Weed shrub/tree grows well in drought and bad soils. They currenly use the plant to stop soil erosion  in desert countries.
# ... wish I could remember the trial country and the name of the plant but I wasn't well at the time.

Next, I came across this recommendation of a read. A power point presentation 71 page article on Peak oil. I have not access it as my computer runs to slow to do so. But didnt want the link to go to waste... Roll Eyes

http://www.aspo-australia.org.au/References/Bruce/Brussels-2.ppt


keep up your good work  Wink


Thanks Vegi, there are some useful things in that ASPO powerpoint display, which will show up, in some future posts!
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Reply #258 - Apr 27th, 2011 at 5:13pm
 
INTERNATIONAL PRICE COMPARISON

Official statistics from the Department of Industry Tourism & Resources (Australian Petroleum Statistics) and the International Energy Agency (IEA) show that Australia has among the lowest petrol and diesel prices of all OECD countries. The charts below show the price of petrol and diesel in Australia compared to other countries – on both a pre-tax and post-tax basis.


Petrol Prices and Taxes in OECD Countries
September Quarter 2010
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http://www.aip.com.au/pricing/internationalprices.htm



http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/cfapps/ipdbproject/IEDIndex3.cfm?tid=5&pid=5&aid=2
The above link to the US EIA (Energy Information Agency), shows Global Petroleum (Oil) Consumption figures and it highlights the following -
1) Despite various countries having had Fuel taxes, for some time, Oil Consumption has continued to grow on a Global Basis.

2) The only time when this increasing Consumption took a rest, was during the height of the GFC in 2008 & 2009.

All of which means, if it is there and available, it will be used, unless it is seen to be greatly hurting the Consumers disposal income.

The net result of these "fuel taxes" is purely that, they are a tax, first, foremost and last, which is exactly what has happened in the UK (see following chart) & elsewhere and that is exactly what will happen in Australia, under either the Labs or the Libs!

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Q. What does all this mean?

A. The Australian Carbon Tax is a TAX, it is not meant to and nor will it, fix the Worlds Green House Gas (GHG) & Climate Change problems!


That said, the Worlds Green House Gas (GHG) & Climate Change problems, must be moved on quickly, to delay the rapid onset of the worst ramifications in the medium term, so that more time is available to work on longer term solutions!



PS - Thanks to Vegi for highlighting an ASPO report, which was the original source of the first chart.
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Reply #259 - Apr 27th, 2011 at 6:10pm
 
Russia Doesn't Want Any More Dollars - What This Means for Investors


As a result of its status as the world’s biggest energy exporter, the Russian state has accumulated about $300 billion worth of U.S. dollar denominated foreign exchange reserves. It doesn’t want any more. After decades of eagerly accepting dollar payments, Russia has quietly asked its trading partners to pay in rubles.

Vladimir Putin's original announcement, back on May 10, 2006, that Russia intended to increase the value of the ruble and make it into a reserve currency, caused a shock to currency markets, sending the dollar temporarily downward. But, shortly thereafter, few people paid much attention. The World Financial Crisis intervened, oil prices crashed, and the Russian ruble plunged against the dollar. Quietly, behind the scenes, however, Putin continued to work on making his dream a reality.

Russia has been slowly converting oil and gas customers to paying in rubles rather than dollars. China and Belarus have already agreed.

Occasionally, the once and future Russian President continues to have very nasty things to say about the U.S. dollar. He can't seem to hold back his annoyance toward American economic policies. But, where he is scripted, as in speeches to the Russian Duma, he now creates a facade that implies the world wants to turn to rubles, rather than dump dollars.

Like many big exporters, Russia must balance the desire to escape from the dollar trap, with the fear of collapsing the existing value of dollar reserves. Its situation is not so bad as that of China, whose entire economy is built upon currency debasement against the dollar, but it is still delicate.

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http://seekingalpha.com/article/265375-russia-doesn-t-want-any-more-dollars-what...
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Russia, like China and others is trying to exit from their previous support of the US$, as the Global currency, as silently as possible, in order to protect their existing US based investments.

For those who may not realise, ALL settlement payments for Oil were made in US$'s for quite some time, until very recently, when various nations started objecting. One reason for those objections, has been the decline in the US$ index, which has fallen from 120.00 in 2002, to under 74.00 now, as shown at the following website.


http://futures.tradingcharts.com/charts/USM.GIF

All I can say, is that the best laid plans of mice & men, sometimes go astray!
 
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Reply #260 - Apr 27th, 2011 at 6:59pm
 
Gasoline Prices and Sales: What They Tell Us About the Economy


What is the relationship between retail gasoline prices and the volume of gasoline sales? The first chart below shows the monthly data for U.S. Prime Supplier Sales Volumes, courtesy of the Depart of Energy's Energy Information Administration (EIA).
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The next chart includes an overlay of monthly retail gasoline prices, all grades and formulations. The retail prices are updated weekly, so the price series is the more current of the two.
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The next chart adjusts the 12-month MA of sales volume for population growth based on the monthly Civilian Non-Institutional Population data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, via the St. Louis (FRED repository. What we see here is that gasoline sales volume, on a per-capita basis, peaked in September 2009. In fact, our per-capita consumption of gasoline is fractionally lower (-0.4%) than it was at the end of the Great Recession.
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These charts, in conjuction with the following EIA site, show a few things -
1) The Price does influence per capita Consumption, which has been happening since around 2000 in the US
2) However the per capita decline has been largely offset by growing Demand (increasing population).
3) The only sizeable reduction in Consumption occurred during the GFC that started late 2007, as can be seen in EIA site.

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/cfapps/ipdbproject/iedindex3.cfm?tid=5&pid=5&aid=2&cid=...
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Reply #261 - May 3rd, 2011 at 9:49pm
 
ABC Catalyst Peak Oil Report 28-04-2011


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Reply #262 - May 5th, 2011 at 9:40pm
 
Alaska's Peak Oil Realities


I know we typically look at the trouble our three largest oil-producing states are having with Peak Oil.

Today, let's focus on just one: Alaska.

Because quite frankly, they're having a lot more trouble than the rest.

Last year, Alaskan oil took a blow when the USGS cut their estimate for the amount of conventional, undiscovered oil in Alaska's National Petroleum Reserve (NPR) by 90%.  

The NPR — once thought to hold 10.6 billion barrels of oil — is now thought to contain about 896 million barrels. The area is located on Alaska's North Slope, where 97% of the state's oil production is found.


As if the state didn't have enough trouble with Peak Oil...
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Even despite two major spikes in oil prices within the last decade, Alaska's oil production simply hasn't been able to recover.

Oh, how the mighty have fallen.

Back in 1988, Alaskan year-over-year crude production increased 3.8%, pumping more than two million barrels per day — making it our largest oil-producing state. But its slight lead over Texas was only temporary.

For the next two decades, Alaska's year-over-year production increased just once!

If things continue at this rate, production could easily affect the performance of the Trans Alaska Pipeline.

Bloomberg reports: "If no new fields come on-line, lower volume makes it more difficult to operate the pipeline because the oil flows more slowly and cools more quickly, increasing the chance of wax buildup and water freezing in the line or gumming up pumping stations."

It doesn't exactly add up to a bright future for Alaska's oil industry.

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http://www.energyandcapital.com/articles/alaskas-peak-oil-reality/1512
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Not too long ago, Alaska was going to be the saviour of US Oil, a little like North Sea Oil was for Europe.

Both are now in decline, with Alaska looking to expire first.

This is what Peak Oil looks like and we don't have a hundred years to sort it out, it's impacting now, but we have 5-10 years tops, before severe shortages start!

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Reply #263 - May 7th, 2011 at 3:37pm
 
The World has Passed Peak Oil, says Top Economist


Despite high prices, crude oil production has stayed basically flat for roughly five years. It seems this is the all-time high-water mark, according to Fatih Birol, chief economist for the International Energy Agency. “We think that crude oil production for the world has already peaked in 2006,” he told the Australian Broadcasting Corporation. “I think it would have been better if the governments have started to work on it at least 10 years ago.”

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I can agree with the IEA head Economist, in so far as, Oil Production has clearly Peaked, as Price has been obviously growing for some 10 years, unyet Production has not risen to take advantage of the higher Prices!

In Capitalism, this can't happen, but in nature, it is unable to do anything else, as exponential growth in a finite world is impossible.

However, as I have said for some time, Oil will head south again, WHEN the Global Economy re-enters the GFC.

Let me make it clear, THE GFC NEVER STOPPED & THERE WAS NO RECOVERY!

What did happen, was that the US government, the FED & most other governments & Central banks "spent" massive amounts, to get the Economy back on track and that temporarily showed up in higher GDP figures, BUT THEY WERE NOT REAL OR SUSTAINABLE!

The Global Economy is subject to the headwinds of two huge forces, Demographics & Energy, which are long term factors that can not be swayed by temporary Keynsian fixes and the headwinds from those forces can hold their pressure much longer than governments can continue to increase their Debt loads & much longer than Central banks can "print money".

When the eye of the GFC storm finally passes overhead and the winds again hit with full force, then both the Economy & the Oil Price were always going to head south.

However, whilst the Oil Price is likely to head lower, as the GFC hits again, it is unlikely to head as low as this time and when Peak Oil does become apparent to most, due to Demand/Supply gap continuing to widen, even under a lower Demand regime from the GFC, then the Oil Price will again start to rise, but this time IT WILL NOT STOP!

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Reply #264 - May 7th, 2011 at 8:30pm
 
Is China Getting Ready to Tax Commodity Producers?


There is talk that China is going to impose a 10% tax on commodity producers, starting with oil but possibly extending to coal, gas, copper and so on.

While not confirmed, this is a hot topic for the “big three” of PetroChina Company Limited (PTR), CNOOC Limited (CEO) and China Petroleum & Chemical Corporation (SNP)

The fact is that China did introduce a trial resource tax last June. While all of this hinges on higher prices and levels of production that would ordinarily imply good times for producers, it would still put a ceiling on their earnings at a moment when they are already subsidizing the Chinese infrastructure build out to nowhere.

This might be why commodity markets have traded choppily lately — if not flat out in despair.

Watch the oil group, and if this tax becomes a reality for them, look out Yanzhou Coal Mining Co. Ltd. (YZC) and Aluminum Corporation of China Ltd (ACH).

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Reply #265 - May 8th, 2011 at 12:03pm
 
JPMorgan Raises Oil-Price Forecasts, Citing Supply Constraint


May 7 (Bloomberg) -- JPMorgan Chase & Co. raised its oil- price forecasts
because OPEC and other producers aren’t matching rising demand
and consumers will take time to react to higher prices.


The bank boosted its 2011 Brent crude forecast to $120 a barrel from $110, and changed its estimate for West Texas Intermediate crude to $109.50 from $99. Forecasts for 2012 prices were raised to $120 and $114, respectively.

“While financial bushfires or perhaps a rapid resolution to the Libyan civil war could radically alter market dynamics, the balance of both risks and fundamentals still points to a supply-constrained world,” JPMorgan analysts led by New York- based Lawrence Eagles wrote in a report yesterday.

Oil futures posted their biggest weekly decline since December 2008 last week amid concern about the pace of the economic recovery, with London-traded Brent plunging 13 percent to $109.13.

JPMorgan forecasts supply to fall short of demand by 600,000 barrels a day during the third quarter, even with the assumption that the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries increases output by 1.2 million barrels a day in coming months.

The gap could narrow to 300,000 barrels a day by the fourth quarter, assuming Saudi Arabia increases production to 9.5 million barrels a day, Angola to 1.7 million and Iraq to 3 million, though “that may prove a stretch,” the bank said. Output from those three OPEC countries in March was 8.66 million, 1.56 million and 2.69 million barrels a day, respectively, it said.

Supply Gap
Consumers draw on stockpiles when production fails to match demand. Still, “with inventories already below the five-year average, any supply gap will have to be balanced by lower demand growth, rationed by higher prices,” the New York-based bank said.

Next quarter there’s a risk oil may move toward record levels near $150 set in 2008, unless there’s a surprise increase in OPEC output beyond 29.4 million barrels a day or slower economic growth, the bank said. JPMorgan forecast Brent to average $130 and WTI $116 during the July-to-September period.

While the bank lowered its estimate of world demand by 100,000 barrels a day, in part because of the earthquake-led disruptions in Japan, it raised its forecast for Chinese consumption, saying data implies China’s crude-oil inventories have been “drawn heavily” in the past six months.

“We have observed a parallel destocking activity in the copper market,” JPMorgan said.

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http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=auZZhnLtWSX8&pos=7
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Welcome to the real world, where there is no longer a guarantee of the best of all worlds.

In a world of finite Resources, there are difficult choices, limitations & old ideolgies no longer rule!


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Reply #266 - May 10th, 2011 at 10:30pm
 
IEA: Demand, not speculation, cited for rising oil prices


High oil prices are here to stay, and they’re caused by surging demand and limited new supply, not Wall Street speculators.

That’s the message from Fatih Birol, chief economist at the International Energy Agency.

“Speculators are only responding to what is going on in the markets,” Birol said. “We don’t see enough oil in the markets. The major driver is supply and demand.”

Birol said growth in worldwide oil demand is outstripping growth in new supplies by 1 million barrels a day per year.

Much of that new demand is coming from China, which is adding 800,000 vehicles to its roads each year, he said, and is responsible for fully half of the world’s demand growth. Birol noted the growth in China’s oil consumption is equal to all of the new output expected from Iraq over the next few years.


Plus, countries that export oil are not doing enough to invest in new production, and countries that use a lot of oil are not doing enough to cut back.

This isn’t good news for American drivers, currently paying an average of nearly $4 a gallon at the pump.

“We have to learn to live with these higher prices,” said Birol, who declined to say exactly how high oil will go. “They are here for a long time.”

The International Energy Agency represents oil-consuming countries such as the United States, European nations and Japan. It was formed following the Arab oil embargo in the early 1970s, and it is responsible for shuffling strategic oil reserves among developed nations during a time of crisis. It also conducts extensive research on world oil markets.

Some argue that the world has plenty of oil, but that it is trapped in shale rock, tar sands or other types of formations.

Birol said challenges to extracting that oil include cost and environmental impact.

“There’s a difference between having those reserves in the ground and having them at the gas pump,” he said.

Birol’s bleak view is not shared by everyone. Other analysts say plenty of new production from places such as Iraq and off the coast of Brazil should combine with sluggish worldwide economic growth to create an oil glut for at least the next few years. They place most of the blame for high prices on Wall Street, not soaring demand or price gouging from companies such as Exxon Mobil, BP, Chevron and Royal Dutch Shell.

Birol said U.S. politicians can do little in the short term to lower oil and gas prices.

In the long term, he said, the U.S. should focus on increasing its own domestic oil production and limiting consumption through higher fuel-efficiency standards and better incentives for electric cars.

“Oil will be more and more expensive unless countries like the U.S. and China use less,” he said.

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http://peakoil.com/consumption/iea-demand-not-speculation-cited-for-rising-oil-p...
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Unless Global Oil Demand again starts to Decline and does so quickly, then Global Prices must spike much higher, because Demand will massively outstrip Supply - Economics 101.

Ergo, the Global Economy will soon start to slow again, either voluntarily or the laws of Nature & Economics, will force it to!
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Reply #267 - May 15th, 2011 at 8:18pm
 
Peak Oil Guru Robert Hirsch Gives The Definitive Guide To The Coming Energy Fiasco


Full Slide Presentation -

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-impending-world-energy-mess-2010-11#-1

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Reply #268 - May 19th, 2011 at 11:27am
 
3 Reasons to Believe in $100 Oil



1) Long-Term U.S. Dollar Weakness
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As you can see, the overwhelming color is red. Even if Washington decided on a comprehensive plan to fix entitlement overspending, trim defense spending and reduce the U.S. deficit today, it would take years to see any meaningful shift in these figures.

Therefore, we feel the recent uptrend in the U.S. dollar is a short-term reprieve from a long-term downtrend.

2) Demand from Emerging Markets Outpacing Developed Market Demand
Emerging market countries have narrowed the oil usage gap between developed and emerging markets from roughly 12 million barrels per day in 2007, to just 4 million barrels per day as of late 2010.

Emerging markets, driven by China, are the main source of the increase in demand. You can see from this next chart how China’s demand for crude oil imports has grown over the past decade or so. China imported an average of just under 1.4 million barrels a day of oil in 2002, when prices were hovering around $20 per barrel.

In the years since, China’s crude oil imports have increased more than 260 percent despite per barrel oil prices jumping nearly four-fold. This is indicative of the insatiable demand that emerging markets have for oil.
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3) Majority of Global Oil Reserves Located in Geopolitically Unstable Regions
According to some estimates, as much as 80 percent of the world’s oil reserves lie beneath these shaky regions.

Civil wars and attacks on oil facilities can create production slowdowns or even shut down production entirely. The conflict in Libya and unrest in several other Middle East countries shows just how quickly this can affect global oil markets. Iraq is another example of the difficulties inherent in production expansion in these regions. Last week, the country’s former oil minister said it would only be able to meet half of its stated production goal by 2017.

Over the years, the proximity of oil reserves to unrest has led to a reduction in global spare capacity or the excess amount of oil that can be produced, if desired, to meet demand. When the turmoil broke out in Libya, the general consensus was that Saudi Arabia’s spare capacity would be more than enough to meet market demand. That hasn’t been the case as Saudi Arabia has moved to calm its own population to prevent unrest.

The result is little wiggle room to meet demand should we experience a boom in demand or an event disrupting production. In general, these supply/demand dynamics support historically high prices.

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It has been said, "a picture is worth a thousand words" and the China Consumption graph fits that statement, perfectly!

That is one country, in one decade, increasing its own Consumption, by the equivalent of some 5% of the TOTAL GLOBAL OIL CONSUMPTION!

Were Chinese Oil Consumption to continue at that rate of growth for the next decade and Oil Production to manage somehow to hold steady, then the Chinese Oil Consumption as a ratio of Global Production would be approaching 25%.

As it is, Global Production seems likely to Decline at around 2% P/A, which would have the Chinese Consumption approaching 30% of the reduced Global Oil Production.


That is clearly unsustainable, it is not going to happen!


It also means that the Oil Price is heading a lot further North, UNLESS the Chinese & Global Economy slow, enormously!
  
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Reply #269 - May 21st, 2011 at 3:23pm
 
How to develop a business plan for oil depletion


The world currently finds itself in the position of a man standing in a road who has just noticed two large trucks bearing down on him. These metaphorical trucks are labelled Peak Oil and Global Warming. However, despite increasing evidence and clearer definitions of the risks, collectively we have been remarkably reluctant to move out of the path of the oncoming trucks.

This article will only look at Peak Oil, arguably the most imminent threat to our collective welfare. The general reluctance to act and invest appears to stem from the fact that Peak Oil seems an improbable event, given that oil production and its use has expanded steadily for the last 150 years; and that to do anything about it will be expensive and disruptive to our way of life.
A dangerously complacent view that is, unfortunately, widely held.

Peak Oil is often described rather narrowly as 'running out of oil'. This is both misleading and inaccurate. Oil is not running out, but the ability to provide all the oil that we might want at a reasonable price is disappearing. In many countries physical exhaustion of the reserves is already happening. The North Sea is a good example. Oil production in the UK sector of the North Sea will average around 1.3 million barrels/day (b/d) in 2011 or just 45 per cent of its 1999 peak of 2.9 million b/d.

Around 25 large-scale oil producers and up to 40 small ones are already in sustained decline. With roughly half of global production coming from countries where production capacity is falling (depletion) this means the remaining producers need to work ever harder to increase output to offset the losses from those in decline and to meet increasing demand. This is a situation that deteriorates with every additional country that goes into production decline.

Physical exhaustion is only one way that the world can be deprived of the oil production flows it would like. Other threats are:
   Physical constraints – if rebels blow up pipelines or there are wars or revolutions, eg Libya, Nigeria, etc.
   Financial constraints – where the money is either not available or the host government doesn't allow companies with the money to invest, eg Venezuela, Mexico, etc.
   Political constraints – where a political decision not to produce or not to export is made. All Opec quotas are political constraints, while recent statements by both Russia and Saudi Arabia that they may cap capacity at current levels would become major constraints if literally implemented.

Possibly the most important constraint of all is price.

Oil came to dominate our societies because it was both plentiful and cheap. It is now expensive and its supply is becoming constrained.

In mid-2008, the world found out the hard way that it could not afford high-price oil. Or to be more accurate, the Atlantic basin economies of Europe and North America found they could not afford high-price oil.

When the level of oil prices and oil production are compared it can be shown that from 2000 to 2003 prices were steady at around $25/barrel and that production responded by growing – meaning that additional supply was forthcoming without prices rising. From 2004, however, prices started rising steadily, but supply stopped rising from early 2005. This means prices had to rise further to reconcile demand growth with static supply until the price boom-and-bust cycle of 2008 initiated the Great Recession (with a little help from the bankers).

As the economy recovered so did oil prices as the supply response remained minimal.


Looking forward, there is little or no chance of enough reasonably low-cost oil being found and developed to alter the pattern of tightening supply and rising prices, interspersed with periodic busts as high oil prices undermine economic growth. All the indications are that by around 2013 there will be no Opec spare capacity to turn on, insufficient new flows to meet demand and prices will be soaring. In short, Peak Oil will have arrived when the flow of new capacity will be insufficient to offset the loss of capacity to depletion.

Over the last two to three years, the link between oil prices and GDP growth has moved from the economic fringes to the economic mainstream. It is now widely accepted that high oil prices inhibit growth and very high prices will trigger a recession, although the speed of the rise may be as or more important than the absolute level. There is effectively no time for adaptation in the face of a very rapid price rise.

Transport is likely to be the greatest challenge as it will be oil-dominated for many years to come.


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In fact, I believe that Peak Oil HAS ALREADY ARRIVED!

My reason for this assertion, is that
I describe Peak Oil's arrival as the moment when the flow of new capacity, was insufficient to offset the loss of capacity to depletion and therefore the usual increase in Demand was not able to be met and that moment happened in 2005!



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