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aikmann4 Gold Member Offline Posts: 2093 canberra	Re: Israel holds over 370 Palestinian children captive Reply #30 - Jun 27^th, 2010 at 3:24pm Quote: In Australia we all live together as one happy family. Yeah, er, we sure are.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106455 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Israel holds over 370 Palestinian children captive Reply #31 - Jun 27^th, 2010 at 3:25pm Most of the time we do live together happily. There always going to be drunks who spoil the party.
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Re: Israel holds over 370 Palestinian children captive
Reply #32 - Jun 27^th, 2010 at 4:11pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2010 at 2:30pm:

Strange how the Jews bombard us all the time about the
horrors inflicted by the Nazis & then do similar things
to other people.
They then expect us to say that what was done to them was wrong
but what they do to others is right.

I can't get my head around that sort of hypocrisy.

And if there was ANY sort of similarity between the 2 cases.....you 'might' have a point bobby...

But since I don't recall that the Warsaw Ghetto had it's own elected Government, own police and military or the ability to launch rockets and missiles into Germany....and theinmates of the 'Death Camps didn't have AK-47's, plastic explosives and suicide bombers AND since the 'Final Solution' wouldn't have been called off by concept of a simple cessation of hostilities.....

I really can't see a parallel.......

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Re: Israel holds over 370 Palestinian children captive
Reply #33 - Jun 27^th, 2010 at 6:21pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 27^th, 2010 at 4:11pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2010 at 2:30pm:

Strange how the Jews bombard us all the time about the
horrors inflicted by the Nazis & then do similar things
to other people.
They then expect us to say that what was done to them was wrong
but what they do to others is right.

I can't get my head around that sort of hypocrisy.

And if there was ANY sort of similarity between the 2 cases.....you 'might' have a point bobby...

But since I don't recall that the Warsaw Ghetto had it's own elected Government, own police and military or the ability to launch rockets and missiles into Germany....and theinmates of the 'Death Camps didn't have AK-47's, plastic explosives and suicide bombers AND since the 'Final Solution' wouldn't have been called off by concept of a simple cessation of hostilities.....

I really can't see a parallel.......

The parallel is that the Innocent Jews suffered, even before they went into camps, and Innocent Palestinians are suffering now.

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Deborahmac09 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1619	Re: Israel holds over 370 Palestinian children captive Reply #34 - Jun 27^th, 2010 at 6:33pm The other thing that is said, is that the Jews never fought back. That is not strictly true. A very small percentage fought back, an a much smaller percentage of those survived. These people were brave. The Palestinian people have more freedom and choice than the Jews did.
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Reply #35 - Jun 27^th, 2010 at 6:41pm

Deborahmac09 wrote on Jun 27^th, 2010 at 6:21pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 27^th, 2010 at 4:11pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2010 at 2:30pm:

Strange how the Jews bombard us all the time about the
horrors inflicted by the Nazis & then do similar things
to other people.
They then expect us to say that what was done to them was wrong
but what they do to others is right.

I can't get my head around that sort of hypocrisy.

And if there was ANY sort of similarity between the 2 cases.....you 'might' have a point bobby...

But since I don't recall that the Warsaw Ghetto had it's own elected Government, own police and military or the ability to launch rockets and missiles into Germany....and theinmates of the 'Death Camps didn't have AK-47's, plastic explosives and suicide bombers AND since the 'Final Solution' wouldn't have been called off by concept of a simple cessation of hostilities.....

I really can't see a parallel.......

The parallel is that the Innocent Jews suffered, even before they went into camps, and Innocent Palestinians are suffering now.

Yes Deborah....but I haven't seen any references to 'gas chambers', 'Crematoriums' and 'Death-camps' in Gaza......Have you???

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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Israel holds over 370 Palestinian children captive Reply #36 - Jun 27^th, 2010 at 6:41pm White trash.
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aikmann4 Gold Member Offline Posts: 2093 canberra	Re: Israel holds over 370 Palestinian children captive Reply #37 - Jun 27^th, 2010 at 6:44pm And olivish brown trash.
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Annie Anthrax Gold Member Offline Take the plan, spin it sideways Posts: 7057 Gender:	Re: Israel holds over 370 Palestinian children captive Reply #38 - Jun 27^th, 2010 at 6:46pm Quote: And olivish brown trash. Yeah - he's clearly trashy...what with the blood and all. How dare he be in the wrong place at the wrong time?
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Deborahmac09 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1619	Re: Israel holds over 370 Palestinian children captive Reply #39 - Jun 27^th, 2010 at 6:47pm Quote: Yes Deborah....but I haven't seen any references to 'gas chambers', 'Crematoriums' and 'Death-camps' in Gaza......Have you??? hence the jews suffered even before they went into the camps! Or is that not worth mentioning?
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aikmann4 Gold Member Offline Posts: 2093 canberra	Re: Israel holds over 370 Palestinian children captive Reply #40 - Jun 27^th, 2010 at 6:48pm Who knows what happened in that photograph? Given all the trouble caused on either side of those riots. They must have been a troublemakers paradise.
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Annie Anthrax Gold Member Offline Take the plan, spin it sideways Posts: 7057 Gender:	Re: Israel holds over 370 Palestinian children captive Reply #41 - Jun 27^th, 2010 at 6:52pm The photograph clearly shows who is committing the crime. I can tell you what went on after, and I think it's safe to assume that the man wasn't going to behave in a confrontational manner considering he was faced with a pack of drunk bogans.
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Re: Israel holds over 370 Palestinian children captive
Reply #42 - Jun 27^th, 2010 at 6:57pm

Deborahmac09 wrote on Jun 27^th, 2010 at 6:47pm:

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Yes Deborah....but I haven't seen any references to 'gas chambers', 'Crematoriums' and 'Death-camps' in Gaza......Have you???

hence the jews suffered even before they went into the camps! Or is that not worth mentioning?

Well yes they did....but that was a fair few years before the 'Final Solution'......

However...have the 'Palestinian Arabs' been expelled,and persecuted in every country in Europe???

Hmmm no.... sort makes a difference to the ideal, doesn't it???

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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Re: Israel holds over 370 Palestinian children captive
Reply #43 - Jun 27^th, 2010 at 7:11pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 27^th, 2010 at 6:57pm:

Deborahmac09 wrote on Jun 27^th, 2010 at 6:47pm:

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Yes Deborah....but I haven't seen any references to 'gas chambers', 'Crematoriums' and 'Death-camps' in Gaza......Have you???

hence the jews suffered even before they went into the camps! Or is that not worth mentioning?

Well yes they did....but that was a fair few years before the 'Final Solution'......

However...have the 'Palestinian Arabs' been expelled,and persecuted in every country in Europe???

Hmmm no.... sort makes a difference to the ideal, doesn't it???

But no one wants them either Gizmo!

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Bobby.

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Re: Israel holds over 370 Palestinian children captive
Reply #44 - Jun 27^th, 2010 at 7:55pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 27^th, 2010 at 4:11pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2010 at 2:30pm:

Strange how the Jews bombard us all the time about the
horrors inflicted by the Nazis & then do similar things
to other people.
They then expect us to say that what was done to them was wrong
but what they do to others is right.

I can't get my head around that sort of hypocrisy.

And if there was ANY sort of similarity between the 2 cases.....you 'might' have a point bobby...

But since I don't recall that the Warsaw Ghetto had it's own elected Government, own police and military or the ability to launch rockets and missiles into Germany....and theinmates of the 'Death Camps didn't have AK-47's, plastic explosives and suicide bombers AND since the 'Final Solution' wouldn't have been called off by concept of a simple cessation of hostilities.....

I really can't see a parallel.......

What about the embargo on the Warsaw ghetto?

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