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Reply #810 - Dec 6th, 2012 at 8:31pm
 
On The Road To The Endgame: The Farcical Cliff


Kick the can down the road. That has been the core philosophy of policy makers and financial market participants since the outbreak of the financial crisis several years ago. Never mind that we have mounting systemic problems infecting the economy and financial markets that left unaddressed could completely destroy our long-term prosperity. As long as we have the means to repeatedly ignore the problems we are facing today and carry on as if all is well, then we'll simply brush them aside to worry about them another day. From my perspective, this is an unacceptably irresponsible approach. But such is the philosophy we are left to live under today.

It didn't have to be this way.

The circumstances that led to the financial crisis provided policy makers with a clear opportunity to take bold action in correcting the imbalances that have been building under the surface of our financial system for decades. And at the dawn of the crisis over four years ago, policy makers had vast resources and financial flexibility at their disposal to take such substantive action. But in the time since, we have seen little more than dithering responses and flawed policy prescriptions that in many respects have made things considerably worse. And the resources and capital once available to address the mounting problems facing our economy and markets have now been largely squandered. This is deeply regrettable opportunity lost.

So what happened along the way?

Let's first look at the monetary policy side. I recall U.S. Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke's appearance on 60 Minutes back on March 15, 2009. At the time, his monetary policy prescription of quantitative easing was truly extraordinary, and you could see the hesitation in taking such action and his compulsion to try to explain to the public why such drastic measures were being undertaken. The justification? We need to stop the crisis first, and once we do we can take the necessary steps to punish bad actors and put in place policy so that it does not happen again in the future. OK, this made sense at the time and I fully agreed with it. But now that we are long since back from the brink, where are we now in addressing these problems so many years later? One has to look no further than the events surrounding the MF Global scandal over the past year to find the answer. In short, back to where we were before the crisis even started. Making matters worse, the Fed has made what was once extraordinary monetary policy not only ordinary but also demanded by the markets. It has been the monetary policy equivalent of drugging someone into a perpetual high so they never have to come down and face the reality of their troubled circumstances. Unfortunately, among those that have been along for this magic carpet ride have been fiscal policy makers in Washington D.C.

What of fiscal policy in recent years?

Before going any further, I have no interest in being partisan here, as there is certainly enough blame to go around on both sides of the aisle. After all, it's not as though the fiscal picture was at all pretty heading into the financial crisis. For it was just 12 years ago at the beginning of the current secular bear market when the U.S. government was running budget surpluses and the national debt was a relatively low $5.6 trillion (thanks, once again, to positive contributions from both sides). But by the time the financial crisis began to unravel in mid 2007, the national debt had exploded to $9 trillion with an annual budget deficit that had ballooned to over $500 billion, which was an alarmingly large number at the time. But these numbers now seem down right parsimonious in the context of what we are seeing today with fiscal policy. In just five short years to today, the national debt has skyrocketed to $16 trillion thanks to five straight years of $1 trillion plus annual budget deficits. Clearly, this is an unsustainable pace that must be addressed by fiscal policy makers.

The exploding U.S. debt problems require substantive debate and tangible solutions to begin to effectively address the problem starting today while still recognizing that the current economic outlook emerging from the financial crisis remains fragile.

It is to this point that makes the ongoing U.S. fiscal cliff debate in Washington so distressing. It's not that I worry about them coming to some sort of agreement at the end of the day. I've already marked my calendar for the week of December 17, to look for some half-baked agreement that's filled with a lot of fluff sound bites but postpones most of the tough decision making to a later date. Given that they left themselves with only six post-election weeks in a lame duck session to deal with the problem, such a solution is probably the right choice at this point instead of cobbling together some half-baked bill, but it doesn't make it any easier to digest.

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Reply #811 - Dec 6th, 2012 at 8:34pm
 
On The Road To The Endgame: The Farcical Cliff (Cont)


What is more troubling is the genuine lack of seriousness tied to the fiscal cliff debate. In many ways, it seems that most in Washington simply do not at all understand the seriousness of the problems we are facing today. First, the fact that the policy debate has taken on such a predictable antagonist tone filled with all of the endlessly retreaded rhetoric from both sides is annoying enough. The American public on the most part is tired and wary. Many have been out of work for several years and economic prospects remain dim. They wanted to see solutions to their problems years ago, and they would badly like to see two sides working together to get something done to finally start fixing the problem today. Predictably mindless bickering is the last thing that people want to hear right now.

But more important than the tone is the substance of the debate. We have just gone through a period over the last five years where the national debt has risen by $7 trillion with annual budget deficits in excess of $1 trillion each year. Yet the latest proposal in the debate is to raise taxes on the top 2% of income earners today and postpones the debate on spending cuts until next year. Put simply, this is woefully inadequate and teeters on the brink of irresponsible. The government has just spent $7 trillion more than its earned over the last five years. A good portion of this is obviously new spending that did not exist before. As a result, there must be some place where meaningful cuts can be made right off the top today. And no, $1.5 trillion in total cuts spread out over some long-term time horizon is not even close to being enough. In fact, one could argue it should be five times as much. Of course, if the other side wants spending cuts to go along with increased revenue, the time is now to get out with a detailed list to say exactly what should be cut and begin arguing for it. Otherwise, the cuts simply won't happen.

A serious fiscal policy solution is essential in getting the country back on track to a more prosperous future that is not drowning under a rising sea of debt. This includes serious tax reform that increases revenue, broadens the tax base, simplifies the code and closes loopholes. It also includes meaningful spending cuts that if done properly are actually growth enhancing by increasing the operational efficiency of government so that remaining spending is focused toward initiatives that provide the most benefit to the economy. Yes, less can be more if actually carried out correctly.

An additional point in regards to spending cuts - they simply cannot, CANNOT, be of the "$4 trillion over the next 10 years" variety where most of the spending cuts are back loaded when whomever else is running the country at that point in the distant future can simply vote to cancel these cuts down the road. Instead, an approach of gradual revenue increases that are conditional on meeting spending cut targets is an absolute must. And these spending cuts must include entitlement reform. Otherwise, policy makers will continue to repeatedly postpone making the tough decisions until they have absolutely no other choice. After all, is it much easier to say "yes" than "no" to those on which you are lavishing spending.

Some of the blame for the lack of seriousness among fiscal policy makers rests at the feet of the Federal Reserve. Dating back to the summer of 2010 prior to the launch of QE2, the Fed had the opportunity to hold the feet of fiscal policy makers to the fire. But instead of forcing the President and Congress to take on the tough decisions to deal with a rapidly deteriorating fiscal problem, the Fed keeps letting them off the hook by repeatedly implementing stimulus program after stimulus program. The launch of QE3 in September is only the latest example, and look for more juice from the Fed when it meets again in mid December. It is often said that fiscal policy makers need a sharp stock market correction to get their attention and force them to the negotiating table to agree on real solutions. But if the Fed never allows the stock market to correct, fiscal policy makers will never feel compelled until things are so dire that not even the Fed can sweep things under the rug anymore.

All of this brings us back to financial markets. We have a U.S. economy that is rotting at the core. And the global outlook is arguably worse in many parts of the world. Such conditions argue for a stock market that is at minimum in decline and more realistically in sharp correction. But thanks to the monetary pushers at the Federal Reserve, the stock market is threatening to break out to new post-crisis highs after having already rallied so strongly over the last three-plus years.
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Such gross market distortions are absolutely maddening for those accustomed to sound fundamental analysis actually meaning anything. But such is the market environment under which we are operating today. We may not like what the Fed is doing. I for one strongly disagree with it. But regardless of how we feel about it philosophically, as investors we must react to how it is most likely to impact the markets.
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Reply #812 - Dec 6th, 2012 at 9:22pm
 
On The Road To The Endgame: The Farcical Cliff (Cont)


So where are we likely to go from here? The impact of QE3 that was launched in mid September has yet to be felt by the markets to this point. This is due to the fact that despite $184 billion in MBS purchases by the Fed under QE3 to date, only $28 billion in net new liquidity has flowed into the financial system. And these injections have come in two weekly blasts for the weeks ended October 17 and November 14. Otherwise, the markets have been operating under fairly sober conditions since mid September. But the drip of liquidity is likely to increase fairly dramatically into a sustained flow as the MBS purchase program takes full hold. And if the Fed adds Treasury purchases at the start of the New Year as expected, we could see up to $85 billion if not more flooding into the financial system on any given week. The more this liquidity flows into the financial system, the more likely stocks are to levitate beyond all reason.
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The next major stop to the upside for stocks is clearly defined. And depending on how events play out over the coming year, this could very well be the final post-crisis peak before reaching the endgame where the long overdue economic and market cleansing process finally gets under way. This level is the 1550 to 1575 range on the S&P 500 Index, which represents the previous two stock market peaks first reached in March 2000 and then revisited in October 2007. Stocks failed miserably after reaching these past peaks, and they will have their work cut out for them to break out of what has proven most stiff resistance over the last decade plus. And an eventual descent back toward the bottom end of this long-term trading channel certainly cannot be ruled out as the financial system fully cleanses itself. But with all of this being said, if stocks are hopped up on a QE high, it's not outside of the realm of possibility that they may simply levitate through this resistance when least expected. If this were to happen, don't be surprised if it's on some holiday shortened trading day when volume is light and the exchange floors are relatively empty. After all, this is how the market just broke decisively back above its 200-day moving average during the Thanksgiving week.

The fact that the Fed is acting so aggressively to jump start the economy cannot be ignored. Unfortunately, the Fed has the power to lift asset prices to previously unimaginable heights through its policy actions, even if these gains are in total contradiction to the underlying economic realities. This, after all, has been the primary reason why stocks have rallied so sharply from their lows several years ago. If Fed stimulus has brought stocks this far, they likely still have the ability to elevate prices that much further with even more stimulus. This will be particularly true if the European Central Bank and the People's Bank of China join with balance sheet expanding policy stimulus measures of their own in the coming months, which is a distinct possibility.

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Reply #813 - Dec 7th, 2012 at 12:06am
 
The Keynesian Depression


Five years have passed since the beginning of the Great Recession. Growth is slow, joblessness is elevated, and the knock-on effects continue to drag down the global economy. The panic in financial markets in 2008 that caused a systemic crisis and a sharp fall in asset values still weighs on markets around the world. The primary difference between today and the 1930s, when the U.S. experienced its last systemic crisis, has been the response by policymakers. Today, I believe we are in the midst of the Keynesian Depression that my father predicted. Like the last depression, we are likely to live with the unintended consequences of the policy response for years to come.

This Time It's Different
What sets the current downturn apart from any other since the Great Depression is that, for the first time since the 1930s, we have had severe asset deflation (declining real prices) in the face of relative price stability. Periods of asset deflation occurred between the 1960s and 1990s, but nominal prices were supported by rising inflation levels. Against the backdrop of a rising price level, nominal asset prices remained stable or continued to increase as real asset prices declined. This protected asset-based lenders from severe losses resulting from declining nominal prices.

During the 2008 crisis, inflation levels were close to zero and unable to offset falling real asset values to stabilize nominal prices. This caused a debt deflation spiral to take hold as nominal prices fell. In contrast to the Great Depression, policymakers took extreme measures in 2008 to prevent a total collapse of the financial system and head off a deflationary spiral like that experienced in the 1930s. These policies included sharply increasing the money supply and engaging in an unprecedented amount of deficit spending.

In many ways the swift policy action proved highly effective. Instead of the 25 percent unemployment seen in the 1930s, joblessness reached only 10 percent. While unemployment now stands at roughly eight percent, if one uses the labor force participation rate from 2008, the level is still higher than 11 percent. Although there was a 3.5 percent decline in the price level between July and December of 2008, policymakers immediately tackled and reversed the deflationary spiral. This compares with the Great Depression, when between 1929 and 1933 the general price level declined by 25 percent.

Investment Implications
The long-term downside of mounting inflationary pressure will ultimately accrue to bondholders and income-oriented investors. The case can be made that we are marching headlong into a generational bear-market for bonds. During the next decade, holders of Treasury and agency securities will likely realize negative real returns. Despite this, these assets continue to trade at extremely rich valuations. Exactly when the market will awaken to this anomaly in securities pricing remains to be determined.

Gold, as I discussed in my October 2012 Market Perspectives, "Return to Bretton Woods," has significant upside and should be included in any portfolio designed to preserve or grow wealth over the long-term. Depending on the scale of the current round of quantitative easing and the decline in confidence in fiat currencies, the price of an ounce of gold could easily exceed $2,500 within a relatively short time frame and could ultimately trade much higher.

The World is Waiting
The Great Depression brought about the Keynesian Revolution, complete with new analytical tools and economic programs that have been relied upon for decades. The efficacy of these tools and programs has slowly been eroded over the years as the accumulation of policy actions has reduced the flexibility to deal with crises as we reach budget constraints and stretch the Fed's balance sheet beyond anything previously imagined. Nations have exceeded their ability to finance themselves without relying on their central banks as lenders of last resort and increasingly large doses of monetary policy are required just to keep the economy expanding at a subpar pace. Some have referred to this as reaching the Keynesian endpoint.

Keynes would barely recognize where we now find ourselves. In this ultra loose policy environment we are limited by our Keynesian toolkit. Today, the world is waiting for someone to come forward and explain how we are going to get out of our current circumstances without suffering the unintended consequences created by so-called Keynesian policies.

Much like that crisis needed Lincoln, the current crisis needs someone who can identify new tools to resolve the present economic crisis. Until then we are condemned to a path which leads to further currency debasement and the erosion of purchasing power, with the result being a massive transfer of wealth from creditor to debtor. Without a new economic paradigm, the deleterious consequences of the current misguided policies are a foregone conclusion.

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As I have said previously, for All actions & Inactions, there are Consequences.

And, sometimes, particularly when we leave taking actions too late, there are no happy endings!
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Reply #814 - Dec 7th, 2012 at 8:11am
 
ECB Slashes Forecast for Euro-Zone Economy


The European Central Bank slashed its economic forecasts for 2013, offering little hope to the euro zone's weaker members as they struggle to emerge from the region's debt crisis.

Officials voted to keep their main lending rate unchanged at 0.75%, a record low and a level that Mr. Draghi called "very accommodative." The ECB, as expected, said it would continue to offer unlimited loans to banks at least through the middle of next year.

Separately, the Bank of England left its key rate unchanged at 0.5% and made no changes to its bond-purchase program.

The ECB didn't rule out further interest-rate cuts. The rate of inflation should decline to 1.4% by 2014, it said, well below the ECB's 2% target. And some ECB officials appear to have favored a rate cut at Thursday's meeting.

The euro fell below $1.30 against the U.S. dollar after Mr. Draghi's remarks, on hopes the ECB will cut rates early next year.

"Weak activity is expected to extend into next year, reflecting the adverse impact on domestic expenditure of weak consumer and investor sentiment and subdued foreign demand," Mr. Draghi said. He cited uncertainty over the possibility of automatic spending cuts and tax increases in the U.S.—the "fiscal cliff"—as another risk.

The ECB's final policy meeting of 2012 lacked the drama of other deliberations over the past year, which resulted in interest-rate reductions, changes to collateral rules, more than €1 trillion ($1.31 trillion) in cheap loans to banks and, most recently, a new bond-purchase program that has been credited with keeping the region's debt crisis from sweeping Spain and Italy.

Under the ECB's new program unveiled three months ago, called OMT (it stands for "outright monetary transactions"), the central bank will purchase open-ended amounts of a country's government bonds as long as that country first seeks aid from Europe's rescue funds and agrees to conditions on fiscal reforms. The facility has yet to be deployed, but ECB officials say it is ready if needed.

Yet the challenge for Italy and Spain has shifted in recent months from financing costs to an increasingly dark economic outlook.
The euro-zone economy hasn't posted any growth since the third quarter of 2011. Analysts expect it to contract around 1.5%, at an annualized rate, in the fourth quarter and again in the early months of 2013.


Spanish and Italian GDP have each contracted for five straight quarters. This drains government coffers of tax revenues and puts upward pressure on social spending, suggesting that government-debt burdens will rise even if these countries are able to issue debt for reduced rates.


Unemployment has mounted in crisis-hit countries as well as stronger core countries such as France, threatening consumer spending. Spain and Greece have jobless rates above 25%, and one in two young adults in those countries is out of work. Yet Mr. Draghi signaled there is little the ECB can do to bring unemployment down.

"This question should be addressed to the policy makers who created this situation to begin with,"
he said in response to a question about rising joblessness.

"The euro zone may be headed for a 'lost decade,'
" said Marie Diron, senior economic adviser to the Ernst & Young Eurozone Forecast.
The ECB should lower interest rates
, she said, which would reduce the value of the euro and boost exports.
"It wouldn't create a significant recovery overnight, but it would help generate jobs in countries that are experiencing high unemployment,"
she said.

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Lost decade/s, Lower interest rates, anything ring a bell here?

Japan has already been there AND done that!

Japan's Population Growth Peaked earlier than the rest of the world AND their Economy collapse earlier, starting around 1990, including massive Declines in both Share Markets & Real Estate Prices.

So, Japan has over 20 years "experience" with employing similar solutions to what Europe & the USA are now using AND the Japanese have achieved absolutely nothing.

The Japanese interest rates are still effectively at zero, their Debt is expanding & now sits around 220% of GDP, their Economy is still deflating and recently even their balance of trade has started to Decline. 

On one thing, I agree with Draghi, "questions should be addressed to the policy makers who created this situation to begin with"!

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Reply #815 - Dec 7th, 2012 at 8:37am
 
Australia 2012, it's looking bad!
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Wayne Swan must have choked on his cornflakes...

Last night stories on Australia's economic slowdown popped up in The Wall Street Journal, The Business Times and on the BBC.

But the mainstream press is still behind the curve.

Australia's economy isn't 'losing steam', as the Financial Times put it last night. It's imploding.

My name is Greg Canavan. Today I invite you to have an advance screening of my new online documentary, The Fuse Is Lit. It's the culmination of seven months' research into the TRUE state of the Australian economy.

The core message is this: I am now convinced that Australia today is a mirror image of America in 2007...right before the subprime bust that triggered a Global Financial Crisis.

Just like then, a fuse is burning. And just like then, it will lead to a series of shocking detonations. These detonations will take out three key parts of the Australian economy in 2013.

But just like America in 2007, the politicians, economists and journalists aren't just failing to warn you.

They're leading you straight to the slaughterhouse.

Be warned: The Fuse Is Lit will shock you. It might even anger you. But please, if you do one last thing in relation to your wealth and finances this year, watch it now.

You'll discover deep deception: how people you are supposed to trust are deliberately misinforming you about the true state of Australia's finances.

There is a reason they're doing this. It's the same reason a giant smokescreen was created to fool investors even as Wall Street imploded in 2007.

Be warned: The Fuse Is Lit will shock you. It might even anger you. But please, if you do one last thing in relation to your wealth and finances this year, watch it now.


http://pro.portphillippublishing.com.au/n12smsfuse/ESMSNC04/

three key parts

http://pro.portphillippublishing.com.au/n12smsfuse/ESMSNC04/

article from moneymorning.com.au

will post the link later today......if I remember  Smiley
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Reply #816 - Dec 7th, 2012 at 11:00am
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 7th, 2012 at 8:37am:
Australia 2012, it's looking bad!
.............................................

Wayne Swan must have choked on his cornflakes...

Last night stories on Australia's economic slowdown popped up in The Wall Street Journal, The Business Times and on the BBC.

But the mainstream press is still behind the curve.

Australia's economy isn't 'losing steam', as the Financial Times put it last night. It's imploding.

My name is Greg Canavan. Today I invite you to have an advance screening of my new online documentary, The Fuse Is Lit. It's the culmination of seven months' research into the TRUE state of the Australian economy.

The core message is this: I am now convinced that Australia today is a mirror image of America in 2007...right before the subprime bust that triggered a Global Financial Crisis.

Just like then, a fuse is burning. And just like then, it will lead to a series of shocking detonations. These detonations will take out three key parts of the Australian economy in 2013.

But just like America in 2007, the politicians, economists and journalists aren't just failing to warn you.

They're leading you straight to the slaughterhouse.

Be warned: The Fuse Is Lit will shock you. It might even anger you. But please, if you do one last thing in relation to your wealth and finances this year, watch it now.

You'll discover deep deception: how people you are supposed to trust are deliberately misinforming you about the true state of Australia's finances.

There is a reason they're doing this. It's the same reason a giant smokescreen was created to fool investors even as Wall Street imploded in 2007.

Be warned: The Fuse Is Lit will shock you. It might even anger you. But please, if you do one last thing in relation to your wealth and finances this year, watch it now.


http://pro.portphillippublishing.com.au/n12smsfuse/ESMSNC04/

three key parts

http://pro.portphillippublishing.com.au/n12smsfuse/ESMSNC04/

article from moneymorning.com.au

will post the link later today......if I remember  Smiley


As is often the case, there are areas where I agree with what is said in the video & some where I don't, BUT it is also an obvious "Commercial" for business, so be careful.
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Reply #817 - Dec 7th, 2012 at 2:09pm
 
As is often the case, there are areas where I agree with what is said in the video & some where I don't, BUT it is also an obvious "Commercial" for business, so be careful.


I realise that, but they have a fairly solid record of being right over the years. Not 100% of the time, but then who is? the financial arena is very helter skelter these days. They were one of the few who saw the GFC coming prior to the collapse.

I don't trade on stocks any more so I don't even read their market spiel.
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Reply #818 - Dec 9th, 2012 at 9:43pm
 
Latest Debt, GDP Figures Indicate U.S. Economy Is Still Unwell


While politicians and pundits may debate the merits of 1.5–2.0% growth, what remains absent from this discussion is the escalation of debt that has driven this growth. Why? I have yet to find an adequate explanation. Yet the situation is crystal clear: the growth in GDP we have seen since hitting bottom in 2009 has been a function of debt.

Just as when a person increases his use of credit cards, he can spend other people’s money and create the appearance of growth up to a point, but eventually he will hit a limit. It pretty much works the same way with countries, but there is at least one major difference between a country and an individual: Most countries have a central bank that can reduce interest rates, print new money, and influence asset prices through market operations.

What are the trade-offs? What are the limits? Printing money (and other central banking activities) typically allays the immediate fears of an outright debt default, but such easy money comes at price. Newly printed money often leads to rising prices in primary demand areas (e.g., commodities, food, fuel, and farmland). And in a weak economy, assets that people typically want to be strong in price appreciation are weak, like housing for example.

While this phenomenon mollifies the reported inflation figures, it also squashes the average consumer who is wedged in the middle — the price of buying necessities goes up and the value of personal assets goes down. But easy money also leads to more debt across the whole economy. By setting interest rates artificially low, central banks stimulate the economy to grow aggregate credit — from household debt to business debt to state and local government debt to Federal government debt, albeit for slightly different reasons.

This phenomenon is relatively well known. However, what is less well-known is its limit. How much is too much? What is the tipping point? That’s the trillion-dollar question. Carmen M. Reinhardt and Kenneth S. Rogoff’s work suggests that on average countries get into trouble when government debt-to-GDP ratios exceed 80%. What is clear to me is that the US is moving forward as if we will never hit a limit. Let me save you the suspense — there most definitely is a limit — even if no one knows precisely what that limit is.

As total debt-to-GDP grows, the needle moves ever closer to the limit — whatever that is. The US Federal Reserve’s zero interes-rate policy (ZIRP) is indeed stimulating credit growth, which in turn drives — or at least is driving — GDP growth. According to the latest data from the Fed, aggregate credit outstanding was $55.031 trillion on 30 June 2012 (as noted in the following graph).
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What is absent from this discussion is how a dollar actually flows through an economy. Every incremental dollar in debt the US takes out (which was $1.3 trillion for the year ending in 2Q 2012) flows through GDP as either consumption, investment, government spending, or net imports/exports. But this only accounts for debt-driven investment, and investment can be financed with equity too. So, if debt is growing faster than the economy, what does that say about equity-fueled investment? What does it say about the return on total investment?

It means that some GDP is being destroyed each year and offset with fresh investment activity. Creative destruction is normal in any economy, and during healthy times the gains of the winners will more than offset the losses of the losers. That is not happening now. A healthy economy should produce economic growth that is faster than credit growth, if for no other reason than at least some of the total investment came from equity. That is not happening now either. Instead it’s as if the Fed is intent on escalating debt across the whole economy specifically to grow GDP.

Put another way, central banks are acting as if there is one giant demand curve for GDP.
Moreover, today’s central bank policy presumes that all credit growth is good so long as it increases GDP. And ZIRP — which means interest rates are below where the supply and demand for money would set them — is in place for a considerable horizon. As such, credit growth is likely to continue outpacing economic growth. As long as debt grows faster than the economy, the US incurs ever greater misallocation of resources. Where does this end? The longer this game slides from the short term to the long term, the more people will adapt their behavior to fit the new norm. This is where we are.
The world’s largest and most important economy is drowning in debt and sowing the seeds of yet another bubble.


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IF it was correct that there is one giant & forever growing demand curve, then the CB's actions would be ok, BUT Exponential Growth of anything is just not possible!

In this instance, all one needs to do is to look at the Demographics curve, to realise that the Demand curve MUST BE SLOWING and therefore, what the CB's are attempting to do, simply can not work!

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Reply #819 - Dec 9th, 2012 at 9:46pm
 
Sobering


The growth of the Treasury bond market coincided with baby-boomers, medicare and social security entitlement.

Its death will be triggered by falling demand for Treasuries as the emerging economies plump for consumption-driven growth.

The funding requirements of western governments will squeeze private sector activity. Napier believes that the predicted rollover in the US Treasury market is already under way:
(see chart in article)

And his next chart is a killer: it shows the growth of China’s foreign reserves:
(see chart in article)
Growth, or lack thereof. Emerging market reserve growth created money and inflation. So when that growth goes ex-growth..

More conclusions ?
US Treasuries could repeat their 83% price decline of 1946-1981.

The supply / demand imbalance for US Treasuries can be met with higher rates – or higher savings and deflation. [Could we get both ?]

Deflation is bad for equities but also for government bonds in the euro zone.

Deflation has been good for government bonds in areas which print their own money “but this will end.”

Cash provides optionality “and foreign cash real optionality”.

Sobering stuff.

Provided one can survive them.. We think our clients’ financial fortunes over the months and years ahead will depend on how they survive the bear markets to come. We use the term in the plural because it strikes us as almost a certainty that a grotesque bear market in western government debt is approaching. (If we knew the precise timing we’d already be on the beach.)
And if western government debt craters (choose your poison: US; UK; euro zone; Japan – they all look appalling), stock markets will not be far behind. It is inconceivable to us that equity markets could simply ignore a savage sell-off in the, ahem, risk free markets of the world.

But that might also be getting ahead of ourselves. If Russell Napier is right, and we are on the cusp of a deflationary shock, western government bond markets might have one last hurrah.

His admittedly crude asset allocation split of cash, gold and equities doesn’t seem like a bad selection. We have somewhat refined it into four asset pots:
Cash and objectively creditworthy bonds

Defensive and sensibly valued equities

Uncorrelated funds

Real assets (with a hefty commitment to gold and silver, the monetary metals).

Wealth is going to be assailed by multiple challenges in the years to come. Financial repression; deflation; inflation; currency depreciation; selective default; an equity bear market.
. If you can propose a better asset split that can offer at least some mitigation of these various threats to our financial well-being, we’re all ears.

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Well, I don't know about sobering?

But, IF I was going to AA, I MAY be tempted to start Drinking, AGAIN?
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Reply #820 - Dec 9th, 2012 at 9:54pm
 
Startling look at Job Demographics by Age


ZeroHedge had an interesting set of charts of BLS data in his post Number Of Workers Aged 25-54 Back To April 1997 Levels.

I picked up on that theme and put together this chart of BLS data showing various age groups.

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http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ZBStWRJbCQo/UMJVWTnpicI/AAAAAAAATC4/E90C_v7grBw/s1600/...

Demographic Points of Note
•Employment in age group 25-54 is 94,063,000
•Employment in age group 25-54 was 94,167,000 in April 1997
•Total employment is 143,257,000
•Total employment was  143,449,000 in February 2006
•The low employment for age group 25-54 was 93,356,000 in October 2011, 28 months after the recovery began
•Total employment at the start of the recovery in June 2009 was 140,074,000
•Age 55 and up employment at the start of the recovery was 27,105,000

•Age 25-54 employment at the start of the recovery was 95,264,000
•Age 55 and up employment is now 31,119,000

•Age 25-54 employment is now 94,063,000

Reflections on the Recovery
•Since the start of the recovery, the economy added 3,183,000 total jobs
•Since the start of the recovery, the economy added  4,014,000 jobs in age group 55+
•Since the start of the recovery, the economy lost 831,000 jobs of those between 16-54
•Since the start of the recovery, the economy lost 1,201,000 jobs of those between 25-54

Boomer demographics certainly explains "some" of this trend.

For the rest of the trend, consider my comment in today's job report: Establishment Survey +146,000; Household Survey -122,000 Jobs; Unemployment 7.7% as Labor Force Shrinks by 350,000

In the last year, the civilian noninstitutional population rose by 3,733,000. Yet the labor force only rose by 1,354,000.

Those "not" in the labor force rose by 2,380,000 to 88,883,000.

The massive rise of those "not" in the labor force is primarily economic weakness, not demographics.

Actually, older workers are returning to the work force because they cannot afford retirement. One look at the average age of Walmart greeters and those working in fast food restaurants tells a story itself.


Flashback May, 1 2008

For point of record, consider what I said on May 1, 2008 in Demographics Of Jobless Claims

Ironically, older part-time workers remaining in or reentering the labor force will be cheaper to hire in many cases than younger workers. The reason is Boomers 65 and older will be covered by Medicare (as long as it lasts) and will not require as many benefits as will younger workers, especially those with families. In effect, Boomers will be competing with their children and grandchildren for jobs that in many cases do not pay living wages.

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Just a few thoughts -
1) In roughly 3.5 years, since June 2009 the 55 & over Employment has risen by just over million, whilst the 25-54 employment Declined by around 1.2 million.
2) On average, there are some 4 million US Baby Boomers entering that over 55 year bracket, each year.   
3) If we apply say a 60% Employment participation rate, then around 2.4 million Employed Boomers should be coming into the over 55 year bracket, each year.
4) Therefore, over a 3.5 year period, the additional Boomers coming into the over 55 Employed bracket should have been around 8.4 million, given the usual Participation rate, BUT the actual increase in Employed over 55 year olds was only 1.2 million.
5) So, whilst there has been a BUMP attributable to the Baby Boomers HUMPFEST, the BUMP does not seem to be as big a BUMP, as the original HUMPFEST would suggest it should have been!

6) Of course, you would still need to take into consideration those numbers from the generation prior to the Baby Boomers, the so called "Silent Generation". However, as would be anticipated from the term Baby Boomers, the Silent generation numbers were considerably less.
7) Finally, it would seem apparent that both Demographics & the Resultant Economics are involved in both the Employment & Unemployment trends, with less jobs being available because of those factors, BUT an extra LARGE number of Boomers leaving the workforce because of reaching their Reitrement age, thus lowering the Participation rate & keeping the Unemployment rate from exploding. 
8) If the figures were available, I would suggest they would be similar in OZ!

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Reply #821 - Dec 9th, 2012 at 9:56pm
 
I don't know how you do it Perceptions Now?
But you're ******* good.
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Reply #822 - Dec 10th, 2012 at 4:50pm
 
Weak China data pulls back early gains


Economist strategist at Patersons Securities Tony Farnham said good performances from base materials in the United States and United Kingdom as well China’s factory output rising to an eight-month high helped lift the mining heavyweights, BHP and Rio Tinto.
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Rio Tinto added 1.9 per cent to $61.30, while BHP edged up.6 per cent to $34.95. 

‘‘Any of these partial indicators that indicate the Chinese economy has found a floor in terms of the growth slowdown we’ve seen on late is well received by the market,’’ said Mr Farnham.

But a later release of data from China showed that exports rose in November at a much weaker rate and imports were flat compared to the previous year. Chinese exports rose just 2.9 per cent from a year earlier, well below expectations of 9 per cent.


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China is slowing, as Global Demand is slowing & that will continue, due to Demographics that were cast in concrete many years ago.

That situation will continue for at least several Decades & the flow on effects MUST therefore impact the OZ Mining market!

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Reply #823 - Dec 10th, 2012 at 4:59pm
 
It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Dec 9th, 2012 at 9:56pm:
I don't know how you do it Perceptions Now?
But you're ******* good.


Perhaps it was spending to much time in the financial sector, mainly insurance & a little banking, providing advice on risk management, prior to my retirement?

OR, it may just be Retirement providing too much spare time, which enables "a little more research time"?

OR, it could just be that I'm a pedantic cretin, who doesn't like to be wrong, TOO many times?


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Reply #824 - Dec 12th, 2012 at 11:10am
 
Grin Nice
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