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Reply #15 - Jul 26th, 2010 at 4:21pm
 
skippy. wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 3:54pm:
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Do none of you labor idiots ( redundant term!) know how to read polls? Turnball was getting killed in the polls

Hey sweetcheeks,you're the idiot, Abbott only consolidated the rusted on tards, they would vote for him anyway, as you prove, Turnbull could bring the swinging moderate voters to the Libs, but bugger you, they deserve to rot in hell.



Christ you're a WANKER Skippy. How about you tell us WHEN the Greens will be competitive? LOL.

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Reply #16 - Jul 26th, 2010 at 4:49pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 3:37pm:
skippy. wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 3:33pm:
Verge wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 3:17pm:
skippy. wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 3:11pm:
I cant wait until the Libs dump this turd and replace him with Turnbull so as we the voters have a real choice for who to preference.


You are dreaming skippy.  Turnbull wont be leader.  Turnbull was abysmal as leader last time.  The ALP want Turnbull so they can have their ETS.

No I'm sure Labor dont wont Turnbull as leader, he would win an election.
On the other hand moderate voters who preference the major parties would like a moderate leader for the Libs.
Turnbull was not that bad a leader, it is just the right wing neo con extremists who now run the Liberal party wanted a patsy who would do their bidding, up stands Abbott.If the liberal party are to ever wonder out of the wilderness they need a moderate leader who appeals to the swinging moderate voter, I dont expect you rusted on Libs to undertand that, you are defending Abbott, nuff said.


Do none of you labor idiots ( redundant term!) know how to read polls? Turnball was getting killed in the polls! Abbott has brought them close to victory. If there are so many people wanting Turnball as leader then where were they com polling time? or is it that only LABOR voters wanted him as liberal leader as he was less of a challenge??


It would be VERY interesting if Turnbull was leading now to see the polls.
Remember when he was leader Labor still had everyone fooled thinking they were actually going to do something with Climate change, and has been pointed to many times it was when that was shelved that voters turned their back.
Turnbull would win in a landslide, only the rusted Labor supporters would vote against him just as only the rusted on Liberals will vote for Abbott, and the Greens would be back to their normal 6% or less support as well.
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Reply #17 - Jul 26th, 2010 at 4:51pm
 
iamtheman012 wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 4:21pm:
skippy. wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 3:54pm:
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Do none of you labor idiots ( redundant term!) know how to read polls? Turnball was getting killed in the polls

Hey sweetcheeks,you're the idiot, Abbott only consolidated the rusted on tards, they would vote for him anyway, as you prove, Turnbull could bring the swinging moderate voters to the Libs, but bugger you, they deserve to rot in hell.



Christ you're a WANKER Skippy. How about you tell us WHEN the Greens will be competitive? LOL.

Cheesy

I know you hate being told how wrong your precious party got it when they chose Abbott over Turnbull, but suck it up, its your own fault.
Dont worry iamwhatever, I'll be looking for you too come aug 22, to see if you are ready to concede that for the libs to ever win government again they need to dump the extreme far right neo cons that now run the party.
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Reply #18 - Jul 26th, 2010 at 4:52pm
 
skippy. wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 4:15pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 4:05pm:
skippy. wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 3:54pm:
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Do none of you labor idiots ( redundant term!) know how to read polls? Turnball was getting killed in the polls

Hey sweetcheeks,you're the idiot, Abbott only consolidated the rusted on tards, they would vote for him anyway, as you prove, Turnbull could bring the swinging moderate voters to the Libs, but bugger you, they deserve to rot in hell.



so what you are inessence saying is that YOU cannot read polls??

Oh I read them and you weep sweet thing, Abbotts going to get his ass kicked, I'll speak to you on the 22 Aug, and repost this thread, when you see how buggered the Libs are then maybe you'll realise I'm right, but dont worry, I wont miss out on telling you, I TOLD YOU SO, I'm a pretty generous bloke like that.


Given that Turball was polling at a 16% margin you can have your say if Abbott does WORSE. other that that my point remains valid, but I am sure you dont undestand that argument at all.
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Reply #19 - Jul 26th, 2010 at 4:57pm
 
Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 4:49pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 3:37pm:
skippy. wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 3:33pm:
Verge wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 3:17pm:
skippy. wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 3:11pm:
I cant wait until the Libs dump this turd and replace him with Turnbull so as we the voters have a real choice for who to preference.


You are dreaming skippy.  Turnbull wont be leader.  Turnbull was abysmal as leader last time.  The ALP want Turnbull so they can have their ETS.

No I'm sure Labor dont wont Turnbull as leader, he would win an election.
On the other hand moderate voters who preference the major parties would like a moderate leader for the Libs.
Turnbull was not that bad a leader, it is just the right wing neo con extremists who now run the Liberal party wanted a patsy who would do their bidding, up stands Abbott.If the liberal party are to ever wonder out of the wilderness they need a moderate leader who appeals to the swinging moderate voter, I dont expect you rusted on Libs to undertand that, you are defending Abbott, nuff said.


Do none of you labor idiots ( redundant term!) know how to read polls? Turnball was getting killed in the polls! Abbott has brought them close to victory. If there are so many people wanting Turnball as leader then where were they com polling time? or is it that only LABOR voters wanted him as liberal leader as he was less of a challenge??


It would be VERY interesting if Turnbull was leading now to see the polls.
Remember when he was leader Labor still had everyone fooled thinking they were actually going to do something with Climate change, and has been pointed to many times it was when that was shelved that voters turned their back.
Turnbull would win in a landslide, only the rusted Labor supporters would vote against him just as only the rusted on Liberals will vote for Abbott, and the Greens would be back to their normal 6% or less support as well.



That's oen of those what-iff scenarios that leads itself to debate but no way of knowing any facts. Turnball disenchanted a lot of core liberal supporters because of his pro-ets position and if he had remained leader the ETS would have passed thus negating the need for Rdd to can it. turnball is undoubtedly a good leader but he needs to work out which party he wants to lead. He woudl however make a fabulous Liberal Treasurer which is where I think he wil end up anyhow and defacto heir apparent. but ONLY if he learns to listen to his party a little better.
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Reply #20 - Jul 26th, 2010 at 4:59pm
 
skippy. wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 4:51pm:
iamtheman012 wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 4:21pm:
skippy. wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 3:54pm:
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Do none of you labor idiots ( redundant term!) know how to read polls? Turnball was getting killed in the polls

Hey sweetcheeks,you're the idiot, Abbott only consolidated the rusted on tards, they would vote for him anyway, as you prove, Turnbull could bring the swinging moderate voters to the Libs, but bugger you, they deserve to rot in hell.



Christ you're a WANKER Skippy. How about you tell us WHEN the Greens will be competitive? LOL.

Cheesy

I know you hate being told how wrong your precious party got it when they chose Abbott over Turnbull, but suck it up, its your own fault.
Dont worry iamwhatever, I'll be looking for you too come aug 22, to see if you are ready to concede that for the libs to ever win government again they need to dump the extreme far right neo cons that now run the party.


And if you read the PROFESSIONAL political analysts they are all saying that libs and labor are virtually identical in policy. in fact, can you even differentiate between the two on any genuine policy of substance?
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Reply #21 - Jul 26th, 2010 at 5:00pm
 
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Turnbull would win in a landslide, only the rusted Labor supporters would vote against him just as only the rusted on Liberals will vote for Abbott, and the Greens would be back to their normal 6% or less support as well. 
    

The enviroment will be a big issue for the rest of our lives, the GREENS vote will continue to increase, but I agree its at 16%  because Labor have been spooked and the coalition dont even believe in climate change under the extreme far right wing neo cons.
The rest of your post is spot on.
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Reply #22 - Jul 26th, 2010 at 5:03pm
 
skippy. wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 5:00pm:
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Turnbull would win in a landslide, only the rusted Labor supporters would vote against him just as only the rusted on Liberals will vote for Abbott, and the Greens would be back to their normal 6% or less support as well.  
   

The enviroment will be a big issue for the rest of our lives, the GREENS vote will continue to increase, but I agree its at 16%  because Labor have been spooked and the coalition dont even believe in climate change under the extreme far right wing neo cons.
The rest of your post is spot on.


That is one of the worst political analyses I've ever read. IN fact it is close to 100% rubbish. It avoids an political history, any polls and anything else even close to a fact.

Pure drivel.
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Reply #23 - Jul 26th, 2010 at 5:05pm
 
skippy. wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 4:51pm:
iamtheman012 wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 4:21pm:
skippy. wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 3:54pm:
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Do none of you labor idiots ( redundant term!) know how to read polls? Turnball was getting killed in the polls

Hey sweetcheeks,you're the idiot, Abbott only consolidated the rusted on tards, they would vote for him anyway, as you prove, Turnbull could bring the swinging moderate voters to the Libs, but bugger you, they deserve to rot in hell.



Christ you're a WANKER Skippy. How about you tell us WHEN the Greens will be competitive? LOL.

Cheesy

I know you hate being told how wrong your precious party got it when they chose Abbott over Turnbull, but suck it up, its your own fault.
Dont worry iamwhatever, I'll be looking for you too come aug 22, to see if you are ready to concede that for the libs to ever win government again they need to dump the extreme far right neo cons that now run the party.



Actually sunshine, I don't want or think Abbott can win, however i'll still be voting for the local LIB candidate as they are the best option. As for Turnbull, he would NEVER have won and he NEVER will in the future, AND Abbott is STILL a better option to Turnbull.

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Reply #24 - Jul 26th, 2010 at 5:11pm
 
iamtheman012 wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 5:05pm:
skippy. wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 4:51pm:
iamtheman012 wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 4:21pm:
skippy. wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 3:54pm:
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Do none of you labor idiots ( redundant term!) know how to read polls? Turnball was getting killed in the polls

Hey sweetcheeks,you're the idiot, Abbott only consolidated the rusted on tards, they would vote for him anyway, as you prove, Turnbull could bring the swinging moderate voters to the Libs, but bugger you, they deserve to rot in hell.



Christ you're a WANKER Skippy. How about you tell us WHEN the Greens will be competitive? LOL.

Cheesy

I know you hate being told how wrong your precious party got it when they chose Abbott over Turnbull, but suck it up, its your own fault.
Dont worry iamwhatever, I'll be looking for you too come aug 22, to see if you are ready to concede that for the libs to ever win government again they need to dump the extreme far right neo cons that now run the party.



Actually sunshine, I don't want or think Abbott can win, however i'll still be voting for the local LIB candidate as they are the best option. As for Turnbull, he would NEVER have won and he NEVER will in the future, AND Abbott is STILL a better option to Turnbull.

Smiley


It is notable that not a single professional analyst has ever made that ludicrous statement that Turnball would fare better. The polls massively declare otherwise. I am constantly amazed at the political naivete of some labor supporters!
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Reply #25 - Jul 26th, 2010 at 5:12pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 4:59pm:
skippy. wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 4:51pm:
iamtheman012 wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 4:21pm:
skippy. wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 3:54pm:
Quote:
Do none of you labor idiots ( redundant term!) know how to read polls? Turnball was getting killed in the polls

Hey sweetcheeks,you're the idiot, Abbott only consolidated the rusted on tards, they would vote for him anyway, as you prove, Turnbull could bring the swinging moderate voters to the Libs, but bugger you, they deserve to rot in hell.



Christ you're a WANKER Skippy. How about you tell us WHEN the Greens will be competitive? LOL.

Cheesy

I know you hate being told how wrong your precious party got it when they chose Abbott over Turnbull, but suck it up, its your own fault.
Dont worry iamwhatever, I'll be looking for you too come aug 22, to see if you are ready to concede that for the libs to ever win government again they need to dump the extreme far right neo cons that now run the party.


And if you read the PROFESSIONAL political analysts they are all saying that libs and labor are virtually identical in policy. in fact, can you even differentiate between the two on any genuine policy of substance?

Good you have been reading my posts, Liberal and Labor are both right wing parties, but the Libs are now run by extreme right wing neo cons, Labor I consider to be right of centre, and they let the loony right spook them into bad policy, like the hysterical campaign by the Libs on boat people.

I vote GREENS I will preference Labor because as economic managers they have done well.
Interest rates are lower than they ever were under Howard.
Labor at least believe in climate change, Abbott does not.
Abbott will re introduce work choices,I trust him less than I did Howard.
Abbott would be a total joke on the world stage.
The list goes on, there are many reasons, but, and this is where you haven't read my posts in total, if the Libs got a moderate leader, not controlled by the loonie christian right, I might consider preferencing them.
There are many voters like me, if the Libs want our preferences, give us someone worth voting for.







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Reply #26 - Jul 26th, 2010 at 5:18pm
 
I vote GREENS I will preference Labor because as economic managers they have done well.
Interest rates are lower than they ever were under Howard.
Labor at least believe in climate change, Abbott does not.
Abbott will re introduce work choices,I trust him less than I did Howard.
Abbott would be a total joke on the world stage.
The list goes on, there are many reasons, but, and this is where you haven't read my posts in total, if the Libs got a moderate leader, not controlled by the loonie christian right, I might consider preferencing them.
There are many voters like me, if the Libs want our preferences, give us someone worth voting for.

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The above mentioned reasons are why YOU are considered a JOKE on here Skippy.

Do YOU understand WHY interest rates are lower?

Do YOU approve of BILLIONS wasted on poorly managed and poorly executed programs?

Do YOU honestly think the bogan Gillard or the poof Brown would be better representatives of this country?

YOU Green supporters are absolute JOKES.

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Reply #27 - Jul 26th, 2010 at 5:21pm
 
skippy. wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 5:12pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 4:59pm:
skippy. wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 4:51pm:
iamtheman012 wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 4:21pm:
skippy. wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 3:54pm:
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Do none of you labor idiots ( redundant term!) know how to read polls? Turnball was getting killed in the polls

Hey sweetcheeks,you're the idiot, Abbott only consolidated the rusted on tards, they would vote for him anyway, as you prove, Turnbull could bring the swinging moderate voters to the Libs, but bugger you, they deserve to rot in hell.



Christ you're a WANKER Skippy. How about you tell us WHEN the Greens will be competitive? LOL.

Cheesy

I know you hate being told how wrong your precious party got it when they chose Abbott over Turnbull, but suck it up, its your own fault.
Dont worry iamwhatever, I'll be looking for you too come aug 22, to see if you are ready to concede that for the libs to ever win government again they need to dump the extreme far right neo cons that now run the party.


And if you read the PROFESSIONAL political analysts they are all saying that libs and labor are virtually identical in policy. in fact, can you even differentiate between the two on any genuine policy of substance?

Good you have been reading my posts, Liberal and Labor are both right wing parties, but the Libs are now run by extreme right wing neo cons, Labor I consider to be right of centre, and they let the loony right spook them into bad policy, like the hysterical campaign by the Libs on boat people.

I vote GREENS I will preference Labor because as economic managers they have done well.
Interest rates are lower than they ever were under Howard.
Labor at least believe in climate change, Abbott does not.
Abbott will re introduce work choices,I trust him less than I did Howard.
Abbott would be a total joke on the world stage.
The list goes on, there are many reasons, but, and this is where you haven't read my posts in total, if the Libs got a moderate leader, not controlled by the loonie christian right, I might consider preferencing them.
There are many voters like me, if the Libs want our preferences, give us someone worth voting for.










Trouble is that you would only vote Liberal if it smelled, looked and tasted like the Labor party. Why would we want to do that? If power is the goal then yes thats a good idea - just ask Rudd/Gillard. But if good policy and a belief in ones integrity are more important then you stand for what you belive in. In the last election Rudd turned the Labor party into Liberal-lite with virtually no difference in policy. At least the libs have some backbone on policy!
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Reply #28 - Jul 26th, 2010 at 5:24pm
 
iamtheman012 wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 5:18pm:
I vote GREENS I will preference Labor because as economic managers they have done well.
Interest rates are lower than they ever were under Howard.
Labor at least believe in climate change, Abbott does not.
Abbott will re introduce work choices,I trust him less than I did Howard.
Abbott would be a total joke on the world stage.
The list goes on, there are many reasons, but, and this is where you haven't read my posts in total, if the Libs got a moderate leader, not controlled by the loonie christian right, I might consider preferencing them.
There are many voters like me, if the Libs want our preferences, give us someone worth voting for.

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The above mentioned reasons are why YOU are considered a JOKE on here Skippy.

Do YOU understand WHY interest rates are lower?

Do YOU approve of BILLIONS wasted on poorly managed and poorly executed programs?

Do YOU honestly think the bogan Gillard or the poof Brown would be better representatives of this country?

YOU Green supporters are absolute JOKES.

Cheesy



It took the worst global recession since WW2 to drive interest rates low when a labor govt was in power. the rest of the time - when domestic issues drive rates - labor has a very poor record.

Now this is when some chronically uneducated bogan comes on and talks about Howards 22% interest rates - despite never having happened. It is unbeleiveable the things labor supporters say. it is as if the notions of integrity and truth have never found root in their feeble minds.
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Reply #29 - Jul 27th, 2010 at 8:13am
 
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The above mentioned reasons are why YOU are considered a JOKE on here Skippy.


Thanks Iamacat, but you take the medal, you're considered a joke on every forum, that you're not banned from that is.
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