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And coming up next, the Koine Greek reading of Shakespeare.

You're a dunce soren. Using one language to try and interpret texts from another, just because they share some borrowed terminology is just ludicrous. I am actually shocked you'd put your name to such stupidity.

It's a load of nonsense, and I think you and your German mentor know it.

The Qur'an makes perfect sense to the vast majority of Arabic speakers, apart from the occasional archaic term, which are all well documented anyway.

This guy is quite obviously just trying to make a little propaganda against Islam, knowing there's people daft enough (not looking at anyone one) on your side to swallow it.

I think he should reveal his identity (either that or take up the 'burka') and begin his lecture tour in Iran and then Saudi Arabia  

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I most definitely condemn acts of war, etc. if they were done in the name of monetary profit.
Will you condemn the S11 terrorists, and every other terrorist who has performed heinous acts in the name of Islam?
Will you now condemn your brothers who hack off people's heads in the name of Islam?
Go ahead Abu, condemn your brothers weakass, let's see if you can.

abu_rashid wrote on Aug 10^th, 2010 at 9:01pm:



Love it how conspiracy is the first and only respone that springs to the Mohammedan mind.  It is a daily reminder of the divided world you create - houses of islam and of war. It is that resentment-filled heart that shines through.


Out of the two clips, the first one is more important - it shows that the cairo koran - the one you are taking to be the unadulterated word of god - comes after the yemeni one which, as the clip shows, has seen many corrections and alterations. The earlier yemeni one also lacks important textual elements - punctuation and vowel markers - making various interpretations not only possible but absolutely necessary.  The unadulterated word of god in the cairo koran has had some editorial assitance, in other words.
It's the second edition, at the very least. If nothing else, this makes the claim of direct divine dictation as the source of the koran - instead of the more reasonable divine inspiration - laughable.

That the idea of divine dictation is defended with death threats makes it a dangerouis idea that must be opposed.

Let's not pretend that the purported reason for war in Afghanistan was not purely based upon the harbouring of Bin Laden. That's historical fact. We all saw it on TV. That funny faced fellow with a trusting face still seems pretty benign to me.
It's most definitely a far bigger political game at play. Democracy is longed for in Afghanistan, so too Iran and other places of totalitarianistic government. There may be some disagreement there, but without democratic vote, we will never know.
The one thing that I find surprising about you Abu, is that you cannot comprehend that widespread opinion when privvy to open information will always result in the best choice. This is the pretext of democracy.

Your idealism Abu, is one that I would surely be proud to die fighting against, as have my fathers before me who have helped in the building of this great nation...void of Islamic influence.


And what about those S11 bombers, and who hack off the heads of innocent people. Do you denounce them as being unislamic? Do you condemn those vile acts?
Say it Abu. In the name of free speech, say it.

abu_rashid wrote on Aug 10^th, 2010 at 8:07pm:


Abu, you seem to be advocating the clash of civilizations argument yourself.

Nothing wrong with a preference, I guess, but I wouldn't be advocating my own preferences for the "whole of God's earth." I'd be advocating my preferences for myself - or, if I belonged to one, my community.

Your preference (an Islamic calphate) is for a rule over others - an Islamic form of colonialism. And remember, the Ottoman caliphate was indeed that: an empire, with all the forms of domination and imperialism that came with it, at its worst; genocide.

I believe the West's domination (or US hegemony since 1945) is on the wane. It's not a quick fall, and declines rarely are. Who knows what the new order will become?

You're mistaken that the separation of powers is not important. It's fundamental. As is the separation of church and state. I have great respect for the Dali Lama, for example, but I wouldn't want him leading the world.

The best people to rule "God's earth" are the earth's own subjects at the local level. Your calphate is just another form of empire.

We need less centralization of power and knowledge - not more. I'm sure many Muslims who have been subjected to the excesses of Western imperialism would understand this all too well.

Who on earth would want a totalitarian world state?

We should just start out-hustling the hustlers.

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All muslims attempt to subscribe fully to the words of the quran..that's their law.
It's a mistake to be letting any more muslims into our country unless we would like to see more Cronulla type incidents.