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US Intelligence Specialist: Talibaan not the enemy
Aug 12th, 2010 at 10:38am
 
Pretty damning indightment when the world's greatest superpower is struggling against 50-100 militiamen most of whom were never formally trained at warfare...



My View: The Taliban is not the enemy

Tom Maertens


CIA Director Leon Panetta told Congress recently that there may be fewer than 50 to 100 al-Qaida members in Afghanistan.

We are nonetheless fighting a major war there that resulted in the deaths of more than 100 NATO troops and 517 American troops being wounded during June. In 2010 alone the war will cost close to $100 billion … $1 billion to $2 billion for each al-Qaida member in Afghanistan.

It is important to note that the Taliban is not the same as al-Qaida. The Taliban supporters are Afghans, principally the dominant Pashtuns, who are attacking Americans only because we are in their country. The Taliban is not a threat to the U.S. homeland.

Yet the president lists among our goals in Afghanistan “breaking the Taliban’s momentum” and strengthening the Afghan government. Is it worth $100 billion dollars per year for us to keep Hamid Karzai in power and the Taliban out?

The enemy is al-Qaida. Our goal is to prevent them from establishing safe havens to use to attack us. Terrorists don’t need Afghanistan to plan their operations; they could do it from Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen or elsewhere. Our reaction to al-Qaida sanctuaries anywhere has been a rain of cruise missiles or Predator attacks.

In the name of fighting 100 al-Qaida members, however, we are being dragged into Afghanistan’s tribal and ideological warfare.

Karzai recently told an international conference that he expected Afghanistan to take over security for his country in 2014, but General George Casey, the chief of staff of the Army, said on CBS News July 10 that the United States could face another “decade or so” of persistent conflict in Iraq and Afghanistan. This sounds like a trillion dollars to keep Karzai in power and the Taliban out.

Our real interest in the area is the stability of Pakistan, which has nuclear weapons. Michael Leiter, director of the National Counterterrorism Center, recently estimated the number of al-Qaida in Pakistan at perhaps 300 or more. We have given Pakistan over $11 billion since 9/11 to strengthen their hand against extremists. We also conduct Predator attacks on Pakistani territory, but they are a double-edged sword; they kill extremists but also civilians, which has enraged many Pakistanis and created more violent extremists.

The Pakistanis, unfortunately, are a shaky ally, and are playing a double game, as recent revelations from Wikileaks and the New York Times confirm. Civilian authorities provide some cooperation but are too weak to prevent duplicity by fundamentalist elements of the military and the intelligence service, the ISI, which actively support the extremists.

This is not new. During the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, the U.S. and Saudi Arabia funneled assistance to the Afghan Mujahedeen via the ISI, which siphoned off some of the money and used the rest to support fundamentalist groups sympathetic to Pakistan, including Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida.

That long-standing connection led Washington officials to believe that the reason bin Laden narrowly escaped a cruise missile attack on his camp in 1998 is because the U.S. had to request clearance in advance for those missiles to overfly Pakistani territory, allowing the ISI to tip him off.

But whatever the concerns about Pakistan, they do not justify a war against the Taliban on behalf of the Karzai regime. Taking sides in what is essentially a civil war is a repeat of the “tar baby” conundrum that ensnared us in Vietnam.

The analogy is apt. After nine years of war, the Afghan government, like the Saigon government before it, has been unable to provide security and eliminate widespread corruption. The Taliban, like the Viet Cong, are strongly entrenched among the Afghan people. In most of the Pashtun areas outside Kabul, they control the night, whatever U.S. and Afghan forces do during the day.

The Taliban are an indigenous force and, whether we like it or not, will play a role in governing Afghanistan; we should not make them our problem. We need to manage the Afghanistan problem politically instead of attempting to solve it militarily. A RAND Corporation study of 648 insurgent groups found that by far the most common way for them to disappear was to be absorbed by the political process, or secondly, to be defeated by police work. In only seven percent of cases did military force destroy the “terrorist group.”

We must encourage Karzai to seek a settlement with less radical elements of the Taliban to bring them into the political process.

Tom Maertens considers himself  a political centrist who has worked in the White House for both a Democrat and a Republican, and in the U.S. Senate for both a Republican and a Democrat. He voted for both parties about equally until the Republican Party, in his opinion, swerved far to the right.

Source: The Mankato Free Press
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Re: US Intelligence Specialist: Talibaan not the enemy
Reply #1 - Aug 12th, 2010 at 11:49am
 
The news on the wire: Karzai Seeks Settlement With Moderate Taliban Chiefs.

Karzai's food taster looks on as Karzai peels the newspaper from his parcel of newly polished shoes. "Be careful, Master. It might be a bomb."

"The only bombs around here come straight from the Pentagon. Marked 'for your eyes only.' Ah, the burden of presidential office. You want to run for president, my boy?"

"Master, I..."

"Afghanistan is democracy now. Anyone can grow up with the dream of becoming president."

"I do not have this dream, Master. My dream is to serve the president."

"Good. Best not to have too many dreams. Let us leave the dreams to Amerika. They make enough dreams for us all."

Karzai's shoes have been polished for a meeting with the top brass. General Petreus is coming to the compound. After this, Karzai has a meeting with the Taliban. For this meeting his dusty slippers lie next to his bed, along with a copy of Machiavelli's the Prince and his chillum. His opium pipe is currently in storage, or so he thinks. Karzai has been trying to stay clean and has given it to his most trusty servant for safekeeping.

The servant has dutifully passed it over to the Taliban as proof of Karzai's corrupt and decadent ways. The Taliban, of course, couldn't give two hoots. Opium has made them rich. Alcohol might be forbidden, but there's nothing in the Koran about opium. The Taliban's top brass get stoned with Karzai regularly. Still, they enjoy the servant's tales of Karzai's battle with the pipe.

"He is weak!"

"He is soft!"

"Only Allah makes a man strong. I can give up anytime I want, insh'allah."

"Exactly. As God wills it."

"If God wills it."

"Ha ha ha."

"Ha ha."

"Ha - "

Their laughter spreads and echoes throughout Afghanistan. On the streets of Karbul, a small boy plays with a syringe. In the mountains, a tribesman gazes out over the valley, following the path of an eagle. Karzai shakes hands with Petreus as the Taliban clean their Kalishnikovs. It is a land with God and without God, but one thing is certain.

The Taliban have much patience, insh'allah.
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Reply #2 - Aug 12th, 2010 at 6:09pm
 
That is awesome Karnal. Did you write it or copy and paste?
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Reply #3 - Aug 12th, 2010 at 6:18pm
 
al-qaida and the taliban do not matter, the war must go on, to keep the American war industry well oiled, Iran may be next, as long as the taxpayers pay, and they are not always the american
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Reply #4 - Aug 12th, 2010 at 7:16pm
 
It's pretty funny.

This guy is just now making public the information I provided to you guys years ago, that being that Taliban is not Al-Qaeda, and the war is against them.

Which was never secret to start with.

And when I did it I was called crazy and not taken seriously. This is well over a year ago now.

50-100 Al Qaeda is quite a significant number. It is like comparing Taliban to infantry, and AQ to CIA.

AQ are a different force than what is normally dealt with.
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Reply #5 - Aug 13th, 2010 at 9:31am
 
Interesting thread.
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