Soren,
Quote:The language of the jews is an older recorded language than any Arabic. If anyone borrowed anything, it was the Arabs.
This just shows you clearly have no knowledge about the Semitic languages. Arabic is far older than Hebrew. Hebrew is a completely corrupted and evolved language, which is even less conservative in it's oldest attested classical form (about 3000 years ago) than the slang Arabic one would hear from teenagers on the streets of Cairo today. By the time Hebrew was first recorded it had already lost about 6 of the original Semitic phonemes, whilst Arabic has lost only one single phoneme even till today. Hebrew also lost many of the original Semitic grammatical features, most of which Arabic still retains now.
Arabic is the most conservative living Semitic language, and even historically only South Arabian (part of the same sub-family anyway) that was more conservative.
Higherbeam,
Quote:Yet again you have claimed christian values as your own No where in the ancient writings does it say that Jesus was revered with peace be upon him after refering to a christian figure
Wishing peace upon the prophets is a sign of reverence for them. I honestly don't see your problem with it. would you prefer people disrespect them and curse them or soemthing??? Is that what would make you happy?
Seriously I'm astounded at this claim.
As for the phrase "alayhi salaam", this is a very common phrase in most of the Semitic languages, and was used in the Bible many times. In the NT, it's in Greek obviously, but it's still there, translated most likely from the original Hebrew or Aramaic sayings:
"And as many as walk according to this rule,
peace [be] on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God." (Galatians 6:16)
In the OT we also have the exact same phrase as in Arabic pretty much:
"But those who turn to crooked ways the Lord will banish with the evildoers.
Peace be upon Israel." (Psalm 125:5)
In Hebrew it says: שָׁלֹום עַל
shalowm alay, but instead of the attached pronoun on the end 'hi' (meaning 'him' in Arabic) it then has a direct object, being in this case 'Israel'. The salaam has become corrupted in Hebrew to be shalowm, by the Hebrew reversal of shin/sin and the Canaanite vowel shift from long 'a' vowel to long 'o[w]'.
And not surprisingly we find the NT records Jesus (pbuh) as greeting his followers with the exact same greeting all Muslims greet one another, which is also based on the exact same phrase:
"Then the same day at evening, being the first [day] of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them,
Peace [be] unto you." (John 20:19)
Personally I've never come across Christians greeting one another with salaam/shalowm as Jesus (pbuh) and all other prophets did. Only Muslims, and some Jews use this greeting for one another.
The reason you don't recognise that the early Christians and Jews were actually Muslims is because you misunderstand the term Muslim. Muslim simply means 'one who submits his will to God', it does not mean 'one who follows a 7th. century religion from Arabia' as you erroneously seem to believe by producing a timeline from the 7th. century. Jesus and all prophets (pbut) taught submitting to the will of God, so they taught the religion of Islam. Never did Jesus (pbuh) or any other prophet speak about a religion called Judaism or Christianity. These are names you invented yourselves, long after the times of the Prophets. Islam on the other hand aptly describes the religion of God, that of submission to his will and command.
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