private , independent , state , catholic schools are not what we are talking about... please read the TOPIC of the post ...

It is ELITE these are only a handful of schools in each state about 60 schools Australia wide like :

Sydney Church of England Girls Grammar School (SCEGGS)
Geelong Grammar
Kings College
Melbourne Grammar  

Their is no justification for funding these schools that are for the preserve of the wealthy , Howard said it was supposed to reduce the schools fee's , curb future fee's  and make it easier for all to attend he lied .. In the last couple of years since they have raked in huge funding the have doubled and tripled their fee's ... and some have made obnoxious profits ... It was set up under a socio economic model but this also was a lie as when you can afford $20, 000 per year in fees you socio economic status isn't that bad ...

The facilities that get built from these funds are not for publics  use , yet they claim they are entitled to funding because they pay taxes ...

They can fund their own and leave the government funding to go to other much more deserving areas  , indigenous , special needs etc..

Binary Ninja wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 4:03pm:


why do their fees in any way worry you? you arent sending anyone there! The school gets the same per-student grants as any other private school so they arent getting singled out in any way. they get less than your 'precious' public schools so again, what is your problem other than you think education is not a prime priority of govt? Then again perhaps you are like Gillard who thinsk so highly of education that she neglected to keep the portfolio!

the fees fund the school , they also get private donations / funding , they also get paid by sporting teams to provide scholarships and other benefits state schools don,t receive ... they have far more resources then any other type of school eg 18 ovals ..

They do not deserve the funding at all and it is about time someone did some thing .. They will be dropping the ELITE from the funding list and reviewing the rest so at least that is a start ...

Binary Ninja wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 4:20pm:


Because it is ultra important that people who have the audacity to get sponsors or involve the parents in funding drives or save, plan and invest should be punished for it. right? after all what would happen if public schools tried these things? We couldnt have them trying to get sponsors or - shock horror - asking their parents to actually get involved with the school! And if your wish comes true and some schools are disciminated against in funding, nothing will change. these schools will still be wealthy and very successful and most publci schools will still be poor and under-performing. You will just have lost one more target to blame.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 4:32pm:




You mean THIS AA Gill:


Career and controversies

He was once ejected from one of Gordon Ramsay's restaurants, along with his dining partner Joan Collins. Ramsay's reason was that Gill had written a review of his restaurant that covered his personal life more than the food, including calling him a wonderful chef, but a "second-rate human being".[5]

Gill has been critical of Welsh people; in 1998 his descriptions of Welsh people as "loquacious, dissemblers, immoral liars, stunted, bigoted, dark, ugly, pugnacious little trolls" in The Sunday Times were reported to the Commission for Racial Equality as racist.[6] Gill's comment was used as a prime example of what was described as "persistent anti-Welsh racism in the UK media" in a motion in the National Assembly for Wales put forward by 18 AMs representing the four main political parties.[7]

Gill has also been critical of the English describing them as "embarrassing" and an "ugly race" as well as a "lumpen and louty, coarse, unsubtle, beady-eyed, beefy-bummed herd".[8][9]

In October 2009, Gill sparked controversy by reporting in his Sunday Times column that he shot a baboon dead. His column averred that he knew "perfectly well there [was] absolutely no excuse for [the shooting]", and that he killed the animal in order to "get a sense of what it might be like to kill someone".[10][11] He went on to state that "[t]hey die hard, baboons. But not this one. A soft-nosed .357 blew his lungs out."[11] The action prompted outrage from animal rights groups[11].

In July 2010, an article by Gill in the Sunday Times referred to BBC Sport presenter Clare Balding as a "dyke on a bike", leading to Balding complaining to the Press Complaints Commission.[12] [13]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._A._Gill



Who does this tosser think he is?

Not someone to look up to or aspire to.

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 4:28pm:





There are , no doubt, MANY private schools in need of 'boost' funding by the Federal Government
That is the very reason Whitlam started the scheme in the FIRST place - to fit under-funded private schools with libraries and science labs and raise these schools to the state standard

Abuse by the Howard Government turned this well meant plan into a giant pork-barrell set around a votes-needs basis

I have NO issue on Federal funding to private schools where it is justified

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 4:41pm:




NOT well said at all.

If you read about the man andrei is quoting you would soon realise that when it comes to "low contributions" he would well be up there in terms of his societal contributions.

And lets be honest , this quote;

"Has anyone ever noticed that some of the people who yell the loudest about how our taxes should be spent are actually amongst the lowest contributers to this very same pool of revenue? Who on earth do they think they are?"


is really saying " Lets return to the olden days when the riff raff couldnt vote and us rich toffs had all the power and influence"




No thanks.

but dark that is the Coalition / liberal party catchcry