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Re: Elite Private Schools Rake In The Profits.
Reply #120 - Sep 14^th, 2010 at 4:56pm

A.A Gill is well known for being outspoken and forthright.
One of the reasons I suppose the Sunday Times keep him on their books.

How does this make his comment any less true?

Buzz is a prime example of what goes on up and down the country.
People making a lot of noise about how 'OUR' taxes should be spent.

When you actually look at what they themselves contribute it can be very little.

Is it right people who put in so little themselves should be telling us how it should be spent.
PS - they often then cry that OTHERS should be paying more!! Grin

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Re: Elite Private Schools Rake In The Profits.
Reply #122 - Sep 14^th, 2010 at 5:03pm

Binary Ninja wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 5:00pm:

Andrei you don't even live in this country yet you like to comment on it how does that make what you say any less true ..

Even as a non-resident he pays the same amount in tax as many of our loudest whingers... and when you take into account the welfare they receive, his ZERO tax contribution is actually more than these people.

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Re: Elite Private Schools Rake In The Profits.
Reply #123 - Sep 14^th, 2010 at 5:06pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 4:50pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 4:38pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 4:32pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 4:16pm:

I'm not 'OK' with them getting it - PERIOD
They clearly don't NEED it

Probably a good job you don't actually contribute very much to the tax pool in the first place then isn't it Buzz?

"Has anyone ever noticed that some of the people who yell the loudest about how our taxes should be spent are actually amongst the lowest contributers to this very same pool of revenue? Who on earth do they think they are?"

A.A. Gill, writer and political commentator.

You mean THIS AA Gill:

Career and controversies

He was once ejected from one of Gordon Ramsay's restaurants, along with his dining partner Joan Collins. Ramsay's reason was that Gill had written a review of his restaurant that covered his personal life more than the food, including calling him a wonderful chef, but a "second-rate human being".[5]

Gill has been critical of Welsh people; in 1998 his descriptions of Welsh people as "loquacious, dissemblers, immoral liars, stunted, bigoted, dark, ugly, pugnacious little trolls" in The Sunday Times were reported to the Commission for Racial Equality as racist.[6] Gill's comment was used as a prime example of what was described as "persistent anti-Welsh racism in the UK media" in a motion in the National Assembly for Wales put forward by 18 AMs representing the four main political parties.[7]

Gill has also been critical of the English describing them as "embarrassing" and an "ugly race" as well as a "lumpen and louty, coarse, unsubtle, beady-eyed, beefy-bummed herd".[8][9]

In October 2009, Gill sparked controversy by reporting in his Sunday Times column that he shot a baboon dead. His column averred that he knew "perfectly well there [was] absolutely no excuse for [the shooting]", and that he killed the animal in order to "get a sense of what it might be like to kill someone".[10][11] He went on to state that "[t]hey die hard, baboons. But not this one. A soft-nosed .357 blew his lungs out."[11] The action prompted outrage from animal rights groups[11].

In July 2010, an article by Gill in the Sunday Times referred to BBC Sport presenter Clare Balding as a "dyke on a bike", leading to Balding complaining to the Press Complaints Commission.[12] [13]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._A._Gill

Who does this tosser think he is?

Not someone to look up to or aspire to.

so the usual shoot the messenger instead of the message again? I wish I could say I was surprised...

Here's me attacking the message;

""Has anyone ever noticed that some of the people who yell the loudest about how our taxes should be spent are actually amongst the lowest contributers to this very same pool of revenue? Who on earth do they think they are?"

is really saying " Lets return to the olden days when the riff raff couldnt vote and us rich toffs had all the power and influence"

No thanks."

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Re: Elite Private Schools Rake In The Profits.
Reply #124 - Sep 14^th, 2010 at 5:09pm

darkhall67 wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 5:06pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 4:50pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 4:38pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 4:32pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 4:16pm:

I'm not 'OK' with them getting it - PERIOD
They clearly don't NEED it

Probably a good job you don't actually contribute very much to the tax pool in the first place then isn't it Buzz?

"Has anyone ever noticed that some of the people who yell the loudest about how our taxes should be spent are actually amongst the lowest contributers to this very same pool of revenue? Who on earth do they think they are?"

A.A. Gill, writer and political commentator.

You mean THIS AA Gill:

Career and controversies

He was once ejected from one of Gordon Ramsay's restaurants, along with his dining partner Joan Collins. Ramsay's reason was that Gill had written a review of his restaurant that covered his personal life more than the food, including calling him a wonderful chef, but a "second-rate human being".[5]

Gill has been critical of Welsh people; in 1998 his descriptions of Welsh people as "loquacious, dissemblers, immoral liars, stunted, bigoted, dark, ugly, pugnacious little trolls" in The Sunday Times were reported to the Commission for Racial Equality as racist.[6] Gill's comment was used as a prime example of what was described as "persistent anti-Welsh racism in the UK media" in a motion in the National Assembly for Wales put forward by 18 AMs representing the four main political parties.[7]

Gill has also been critical of the English describing them as "embarrassing" and an "ugly race" as well as a "lumpen and louty, coarse, unsubtle, beady-eyed, beefy-bummed herd".[8][9]

In October 2009, Gill sparked controversy by reporting in his Sunday Times column that he shot a baboon dead. His column averred that he knew "perfectly well there [was] absolutely no excuse for [the shooting]", and that he killed the animal in order to "get a sense of what it might be like to kill someone".[10][11] He went on to state that "[t]hey die hard, baboons. But not this one. A soft-nosed .357 blew his lungs out."[11] The action prompted outrage from animal rights groups[11].

In July 2010, an article by Gill in the Sunday Times referred to BBC Sport presenter Clare Balding as a "dyke on a bike", leading to Balding complaining to the Press Complaints Commission.[12] [13]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._A._Gill

Who does this tosser think he is?

Not someone to look up to or aspire to.

so the usual shoot the messenger instead of the message again? I wish I could say I was surprised...

Here's me attacking the message;

""Has anyone ever noticed that some of the people who yell the loudest about how our taxes should be spent are actually amongst the lowest contributers to this very same pool of revenue? Who on earth do they think they are?"

is really saying " Lets return to the olden days when the riff raff couldnt vote and us rich toffs had all the power and influence"

No thanks."

True, but it was your SECOND post! But your reading between the lines of what he said was truly ridiculous. And I think in calmer times you'd agree that was a little over-the-top.

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darkhall67

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Re: Elite Private Schools Rake In The Profits.
Reply #125 - Sep 14^th, 2010 at 5:13pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 5:09pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 5:06pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 4:50pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 4:38pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 4:32pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 4:16pm:

I'm not 'OK' with them getting it - PERIOD
They clearly don't NEED it

Probably a good job you don't actually contribute very much to the tax pool in the first place then isn't it Buzz?

"Has anyone ever noticed that some of the people who yell the loudest about how our taxes should be spent are actually amongst the lowest contributers to this very same pool of revenue? Who on earth do they think they are?"

A.A. Gill, writer and political commentator.

You mean THIS AA Gill:

Career and controversies

He was once ejected from one of Gordon Ramsay's restaurants, along with his dining partner Joan Collins. Ramsay's reason was that Gill had written a review of his restaurant that covered his personal life more than the food, including calling him a wonderful chef, but a "second-rate human being".[5]

Gill has been critical of Welsh people; in 1998 his descriptions of Welsh people as "loquacious, dissemblers, immoral liars, stunted, bigoted, dark, ugly, pugnacious little trolls" in The Sunday Times were reported to the Commission for Racial Equality as racist.[6] Gill's comment was used as a prime example of what was described as "persistent anti-Welsh racism in the UK media" in a motion in the National Assembly for Wales put forward by 18 AMs representing the four main political parties.[7]

Gill has also been critical of the English describing them as "embarrassing" and an "ugly race" as well as a "lumpen and louty, coarse, unsubtle, beady-eyed, beefy-bummed herd".[8][9]

In October 2009, Gill sparked controversy by reporting in his Sunday Times column that he shot a baboon dead. His column averred that he knew "perfectly well there [was] absolutely no excuse for [the shooting]", and that he killed the animal in order to "get a sense of what it might be like to kill someone".[10][11] He went on to state that "[t]hey die hard, baboons. But not this one. A soft-nosed .357 blew his lungs out."[11] The action prompted outrage from animal rights groups[11].

In July 2010, an article by Gill in the Sunday Times referred to BBC Sport presenter Clare Balding as a "dyke on a bike", leading to Balding complaining to the Press Complaints Commission.[12] [13]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._A._Gill

Who does this tosser think he is?

Not someone to look up to or aspire to.

so the usual shoot the messenger instead of the message again? I wish I could say I was surprised...

Here's me attacking the message;

""Has anyone ever noticed that some of the people who yell the loudest about how our taxes should be spent are actually amongst the lowest contributers to this very same pool of revenue? Who on earth do they think they are?"

is really saying " Lets return to the olden days when the riff raff couldnt vote and us rich toffs had all the power and influence"

No thanks."

True, but it was your SECOND post! But your reading between the lines of what he said was truly ridiculous. And I think in calmer times you'd agree that was a little over-the-top.

How is it over the top.

The man is bemoaning the fact that poor people are having a say in how taxes are spent.

The corollary of this is that rich people should have MORE of a say in how taxes are spent.

Trip back to the 1700's anyone?

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Re: Elite Private Schools Rake In The Profits.
Reply #126 - Sep 14^th, 2010 at 5:18pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 4:56pm:

A.A Gill is well known for being outspoken and forthright.
One of the reasons I suppose the Sunday Times keep him on their books.

How does this make his comment any less true?

Buzz is a prime example of what goes on up and down the country.
People making a lot of noise about how 'OUR' taxes should be spent.

When you actually look at what they themselves contribute it can be very little.

Is it right people who put in so little themselves should be telling us how it should be spent.
PS - they often then cry that OTHERS should be paying more!! Grin

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the Greens......

As a full time PAYE worker Buzz payed his dues every year from 1973 to 2006

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Re: Elite Private Schools Rake In The Profits.
Reply #127 - Sep 14^th, 2010 at 5:19pm

darkhall67 wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 5:13pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 5:09pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 5:06pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 4:50pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 4:38pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 4:32pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 4:16pm:

I'm not 'OK' with them getting it - PERIOD
They clearly don't NEED it

Probably a good job you don't actually contribute very much to the tax pool in the first place then isn't it Buzz?

"Has anyone ever noticed that some of the people who yell the loudest about how our taxes should be spent are actually amongst the lowest contributers to this very same pool of revenue? Who on earth do they think they are?"

A.A. Gill, writer and political commentator.

You mean THIS AA Gill:

Career and controversies

He was once ejected from one of Gordon Ramsay's restaurants, along with his dining partner Joan Collins. Ramsay's reason was that Gill had written a review of his restaurant that covered his personal life more than the food, including calling him a wonderful chef, but a "second-rate human being".[5]

Gill has been critical of Welsh people; in 1998 his descriptions of Welsh people as "loquacious, dissemblers, immoral liars, stunted, bigoted, dark, ugly, pugnacious little trolls" in The Sunday Times were reported to the Commission for Racial Equality as racist.[6] Gill's comment was used as a prime example of what was described as "persistent anti-Welsh racism in the UK media" in a motion in the National Assembly for Wales put forward by 18 AMs representing the four main political parties.[7]

Gill has also been critical of the English describing them as "embarrassing" and an "ugly race" as well as a "lumpen and louty, coarse, unsubtle, beady-eyed, beefy-bummed herd".[8][9]

In October 2009, Gill sparked controversy by reporting in his Sunday Times column that he shot a baboon dead. His column averred that he knew "perfectly well there [was] absolutely no excuse for [the shooting]", and that he killed the animal in order to "get a sense of what it might be like to kill someone".[10][11] He went on to state that "[t]hey die hard, baboons. But not this one. A soft-nosed .357 blew his lungs out."[11] The action prompted outrage from animal rights groups[11].

In July 2010, an article by Gill in the Sunday Times referred to BBC Sport presenter Clare Balding as a "dyke on a bike", leading to Balding complaining to the Press Complaints Commission.[12] [13]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._A._Gill

Who does this tosser think he is?

Not someone to look up to or aspire to.

so the usual shoot the messenger instead of the message again? I wish I could say I was surprised...

Here's me attacking the message;

""Has anyone ever noticed that some of the people who yell the loudest about how our taxes should be spent are actually amongst the lowest contributers to this very same pool of revenue? Who on earth do they think they are?"

is really saying " Lets return to the olden days when the riff raff couldnt vote and us rich toffs had all the power and influence"

No thanks."

True, but it was your SECOND post! But your reading between the lines of what he said was truly ridiculous. And I think in calmer times you'd agree that was a little over-the-top.

How is it over the top.

The man is bemoaning the fact that poor people are having a say in how taxes are spent.

The corollary of this is that rich people should have MORE of a say in how taxes are spent.

Trip back to the 1700's anyone?

To say PRECISELY what he said - but without your embellishments - he said that the LOUDEST voices in complaint are also the LOWEST contributors. DO you want to contend that that is in fact not true?

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It_is_the_Darkness Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4000 in a ReTardis Gender:	Re: Elite Private Schools Rake In The Profits. Reply #128 - Sep 14^th, 2010 at 8:23pm And it goes a little something like this - hit it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr67Jp2Ylx0
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Reply #130 - Sep 14^th, 2010 at 9:08pm

For those of you who think there are different classes of people in Australia, some of whom are entitled to a taxpayer funded education and some of whom are not, how would you feel about those who do not get any benefit from their contributions claiming back the full cost of a state school education?

As, according to you, they are not entitled to any benefit, then they should, in all fairness, not pay anything.

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Reply #131 - Sep 14^th, 2010 at 9:23pm

If they choose to pay the outrageous school fees of the ELITE schools that is their choice not the taxpayers.. These school operate above the bounds of all other schools in resources and funding , private grants ,scholarships etc... they do not need these funds at all to operate unlike the rest of the schools in Australia which could do with more funding ...

This is only approx 60 - 70 schools in all of Australia so if they don't want to pay the fees because they cant get it on tax pick another school ... Others don't get a choice on what school they can chose but the funding is needs based and these schools do not need it.. hence in a couple of months once it is sorted they wont be receiving it anymore ...

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Re: Elite Private Schools Rake In The Profits.
Reply #132 - Sep 14^th, 2010 at 9:28pm

deepthought wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 9:08pm:

For those of you who think there are different classes of people in Australia, some of whom are entitled to a taxpayer funded education and some of whom are not, how would you feel about those who do not get any benefit from their contributions claiming back the full cost of a state school education?

As, according to you, they are not entitled to any benefit, then they should, in all fairness, not pay anything.

So the answer is . . .

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Reply #133 - Sep 14^th, 2010 at 9:41pm

if they want to claim a tax break on education send their kid to a cheaper school .. my tax dollars go on police i don't use , i cant claim that back ..

no one cares about some poor little rich kids parents who fork out $20, 000 per year and then still want their school funded .. they don't care that their are schools in Australia that desperately need the funds more then them ...

They only send their kids to those schools for a status factor and i am not paying for status i am paying for education ..

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Re: Elite Private Schools Rake In The Profits.
Reply #134 - Sep 14^th, 2010 at 9:47pm

Binary Ninja wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 9:41pm:

if they want to claim a tax break on education send their kid to a cheaper school .. my tax dollars go on police i don't use , i cant claim that back ..

no one cares about some poor little rich kids parents who fork out $20, 000 per year and then still want their school funded .. they don't care that their are schools in Australia that desperately need the funds more then them ...

They only send their kids to those schools for a status factor and i am not paying for status i am paying for education ..

If only you knew; clearly you don't.

Elite private schools and some not so Elite private schools don't just educate, which mind they generally do very well; they nurture and develop Men & Women.

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