Binary Ninja wrote on Sep 13^th, 2010 at 6:29pm:


Loser talk... the words of one who wil never succeed because he is worried about what everyone else is doing and gettin gmore than him.

Enjoy welfare!

Mantra is very emotionally driven regarding the subject of private schools, IMO (she is a woman though, so it's excused). Things like private schools enrage women in particular because they are extremely obsessed with 'equality' to an extent that even the biggest of the beta-bitch males do not approach. Cultural marxism and blank slateism have a much more profound influence on females than men.

qikvtec wrote on Sep 13^th, 2010 at 6:40pm:


exactly. sometimes the ALP should stand for the Australian Losers Party.

Binary Ninja wrote on Sep 13^th, 2010 at 6:52pm:


Have a crack at it.

Binary Ninja wrote on Sep 13^th, 2010 at 9:49am:



Some of the parents of those who attend private schools pay no taxes?  Source please.

And you contradict yourself by saying they pay no taxes but they can see their taxes spent on road and rail.  Why not education too?  Why do you divide society and say only some are deserving of a taxpayer funded education?  Since when have some Australians become so discriminatory?  Since the return of divisive government in 2007?

Binary Ninja wrote on Sep 13^th, 2010 at 10:20pm:





And therein lies the fundamental difference between the left and right.  

While the right believe every child has the same entitlement from the public purse in a society which calls itself decent and equitable, the left still divide society into the worthy and the unworthy.

And inevitably decide the 'unworthy' (the 'snotty elitist') should pick up the bill for no material benefit themselves.

This class based ego-centric antagonism, generated from bitter envy and hatred, is anathema to the Liberal voter who seeks equality of entitlement for all Australians.

I think the Liberal's philosophy tends to achieve true equality more than the Labor philosophy. The example of Work Choices, brought up in the previous post, illustrates that well. Those against Work Choices say they are for "worker's rights". But by enforcing "worker's rights" you are giving them something they didn't have to begin with. So it's not really a "right" at all. You have no inherit right not to be fired. Real rights, the ones that matter, are natural rights. Life, liberty and property don't exist because we have laws. We have laws because life, liberty and property have always existed, they are inherent in our human nature. If you want to go beyond that, if you want to give somebody a right they wouldn't naturally have without the government, you necessarily have to take rights away from others. Like in the case of "worker's rights", you necessarily have to take away certain freedoms from their employers. The people who gave them jobs to begin with. So what you're doing is tilting the playing field. Without enforced "worker's rights" what you have is a truly level playing field where employers and employees enter into consensual contracts for employment without outside inference from the government. That seems more equal than tilting the playing field for the unionised workers.

The same applies across the board. Liberals tend to believe in a level playing field whereas Labor consistently attempts to tilt the playing field for whatever reasons. Whether it's allegiance to the unions or a legitimate attempt to achieve more equal results. Note I said attempt, because while intentions may be good the results often aren't. I think it was the noble prize winning economist Milton Friedman who noted that societies who put equality ahead of freedom get neither while societies who put freedom first, get a great deal of both. And I think that's the major difference between the Liberals and Labor. While the Liberals aren't perfect on promoting liberty, they've definitely disappointed me, the core of their philosophical differences with Labor is the idea that freedom should put ahead of equality as a political goal. Labor doesn't think like that. They think force is a legitimate means of achieving equality and that's why they consistently tilt the playing field. Whether it's "worker's rights" or progressive taxation. The closest they've got recently to a truly level playing field proposal is the national broadband network. Although I personally believe something like that should be handled by the private sector. If they keep bringing ideas like that forward that might stay in power beyond this little stint as a coalition government.