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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38861 Gender:	Police killings Sep 14^th, 2010 at 9:05pm Can anyone recall any occasion when a Police Office who killed someone, was actually charged and tried for his actions? On the other hand, can anyone recall an occasion when someone who was not a Police Officer, who killed somone, was not charged and tried for their actions?
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Reply #1 - Sep 14^th, 2010 at 9:14pm

In QLD a few years ago a home invader was killed by the home owner not sure how , but the police were trying to charge him with manslaughter on the grounds he used to much force for the situation , he got off ...

As far as a cop getting charged this is the nearest i know and he will be going back to court i think now with some new evidence presemt recently .

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The 2004 Palm Island death in custody incident relates to the death of Palm Island, Queensland resident, Mulrunji on Friday, 19 November 2004 in a police cell. The death of Mulrunji led to civic disturbances on the island and a legal, political and media sensation that continued for three years culminating in the first trial of an Australian police officer for a death in custody. The officer was acquitted by a Townsville jury in June 2007.

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Reply #2 - Sep 14^th, 2010 at 9:19pm

Yeah, forgot about that most famous one. Understandable as it has been a boring saga, still ongoing.

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In QLD a few years ago a home invader was killed by the home owner not sure how , but the police were trying to charge him with manslaughter on the grounds he used to much force for the situation , he got off ...

Was he charged, tried and ''got off," or was he never charged, do you know?

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Reply #3 - Sep 14^th, 2010 at 9:23pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 9:19pm:

Yeah, forgot about that most famous one. Understandable as it has been a boring saga, still ongoing.

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In QLD a few years ago a home invader was killed by the home owner not sure how , but the police were trying to charge him with manslaughter on the grounds he used to much force for the situation , he got off ...

Was he charged, tried and ''got off," or was he never charged, do you know?

As I recollect it he was charged, tried and acquitted.

It is many years back now though so I could be mistaken.

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Binary Ninja Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 460	Re: Police killings Reply #4 - Sep 14^th, 2010 at 9:43pm yeah charged , went to court , judge told the police to take a hike , no case
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38861 Gender:	Re: Police killings Reply #5 - Sep 14^th, 2010 at 9:55pm Binary Ninja wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 9:43pm: yeah charged , went to court , judge told the police to take a hike , no case Okay, so I am still searching for the occasion when someone, not a Police Officer, killed someone and was not charged, and tried.
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Reply #6 - Sep 14^th, 2010 at 9:56pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 9:05pm:

Can anyone recall any occasion when a Police Office who killed someone, was actually charged and tried for his actions? On the other hand, can anyone recall an occasion when someone who was not a Police Officer, who killed somone, was not charged and tried for their actions?

Yep , Detective-Sergeant Roger Rogerson was convicted of killing a drug dealer named Warren Lanfranchi in 1981....

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Reply #7 - Sep 14^th, 2010 at 10:02pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 9:55pm:

Binary Ninja wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 9:43pm:

yeah charged , went to court , judge told the police to take a hike , no case

Okay, so I am still searching for the occasion when someone, not a Police Officer, killed someone and was not charged, and tried.

I can't think of one. What's my prize if I do get it?

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Reply #8 - Sep 14^th, 2010 at 10:02pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 9:55pm:

Binary Ninja wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 9:43pm:

yeah charged , went to court , judge told the police to take a hike , no case

Okay, so I am still searching for the occasion when someone, not a Police Officer, killed someone and was not charged, and tried.

There were 3 WW2 vets, in a period of about 5 weeks (15 or 20 yrs ago) 1 in Sydney, 1 in Melbourne and 1 in Brisbane....ALL 3 were victims of home invasions....all 3 killed the attackers, the first one ( in Sydney I think) was arrested and charged, but the charge was dismissed, the 2nd was arrested but never charged and the 3rd wasn't even arrested..

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38861 Gender:	Re: Police killings Reply #9 - Sep 14^th, 2010 at 10:04pm Confusing. But, that makes two mentioned on the Police Officer side. There have been many, many more killed by Police Officers.
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Reply #10 - Sep 14^th, 2010 at 10:11pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 10:04pm:

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Rogerson]Confusing. But, that makes two mentioned on the Police Officer side. There have been many, many more killed by Police Officers.

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And?....most people killed by the police are either trying to kill the police, or trying to kill some poor citizen...like YOU

Don't fall into the 'trap' of thinking all police are 'bent'.....like motorcyclists...it's about 1% (worldwide) that are dodgy...

Fair enough, in times long past the percentage may have been higher....but these days, the only thing a copper hates more than a crim....is a bent copper.

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it_is_the_light Gold Member Offline Christ Light Posts: 41434 The Pyramid of LIGHT Gender:	Re: Police killings Reply #11 - Sep 14^th, 2010 at 10:14pm cops invade human beings home scenario, human being shoots cop? no forgiveness and gaol. cop shoots cop? forgiveness and no gaol. what planet am i on?
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deepthought Gold Member Offline In Defence Of Liberty Posts: 2869	Re: Police killings Reply #12 - Sep 14^th, 2010 at 10:18pm it_is_the_light wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 10:14pm: what planet am i on? I'm thinking the same thing
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gizmo_2655 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16010 South West NSW Gender:	Re: Police killings Reply #13 - Sep 14^th, 2010 at 10:22pm it_is_the_light wrote on Sep 14^th, 2010 at 10:14pm: what planet am i on? Seriously.....we've been trying to work THAT out for years...
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it_is_the_light Gold Member Offline Christ Light Posts: 41434 The Pyramid of LIGHT Gender:	Re: Police killings Reply #14 - Sep 15^th, 2010 at 6:25am sometimes i forget,this is surely bizzaro world, soon to ascend yes,these things will be a memory soon. regardless,the fact remains. cops can legally shoot cops deader than a hammer and so it is namaste
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