Aussie wrote on Sep 15^th, 2010 at 2:43pm:


A cautionary tale:
"Poor dad had been suffering terrible heart lung disease for a very long time, and as both mum and I were registered nurses, and knew the odds, we decided that doing a heart lung transplant would be his best option, so that is what we decided to do."

Now if you are a genius of the calibre of aussie, you know a shovel when you see one, and realise they mean they will forgo doctors and hospitals, and rip out his heart and lungs on the kitchen table, and whip in a new set, because they never mentioned hospitals or doctors.

Of course we mere mortals who took it as understood, should be ashamed for not accusing them of being vampires, how could we have missed it?"

I note that mellie could have made her original post more transparent for the duller knifes in the drawer, but even so, you would have to be seriously thick to miss the obvious inference that medical procedures are likely to be taking place in a medical institution of some kind.

Why does it take 3 desperate trolls to defend one Mantra, and only one Mellie to defend herself?

- Meshnet/Mellie

Huh???

WTF is Mantra???

Seriously Mellie .. just take some time out. Come back when you're feeling more in control.

You are not well at the moment. Unfortunately you cannot see it. Log off and take your medication and take a break THEN come back when you're feeling better.

Be kind to yourself and to your kids. Ok??

Kind regards

Lisa

mozzaok wrote on Sep 15^th, 2010 at 3:00pm:


True Moz, and whilst I don't mind dumbing down from time to time, I draw the line at dribbling on the floor.

They knew fine well what 'mellie' meant ...just used it as an excuse to dig the knife in again as usual, because they are lame ducks.

And try not to let them convince you otherwise because even after mellie had clarified this, they still kept accusing her of being a murderer, and still are. Her explaining the situation made no difference to Mantra and co what so ever. They as usual, take fragments of peoples posts and run with it...like a dog with a ream of sausages. ..one after the other...and now Lisa doggy is struggling to keep up with the others who are clearly more agile.

I'll chat to you more about this elsewhere Moz...  I don't have my flea-collar on, and this threads starting to make me itch.

Well done Lisa, you got it.

locutius wrote on Sep 15^th, 2010 at 4:32pm:



Yeah odd isn't it????

Unbelievable, someone shares their intimate experience of having a relative die of cancer, and you call them murderers because they with the advice from their relatives palliative health care team (as has already been explained to you several times now) ...made the decision you cleary have never been faced with yourselves.

I wasn't going to say it, but I will,.... I'd hate to be your relative, as you sadistically hover over my every last painful breath, prolonging the inevitable because you were too thick/selfish to pick up on the subtle messages the medical staff were trying to offer your terminally ill relative.

I think the mistake you made Mantra and co, is that this is a situation many of us will or already have endured at some stage of our lives... who knows, perhaps those who defended mellie may have walked a mile in her shoes themselves?

This opposed to having lived their life behind a computer screen imagining what it may be like to actually be entrusted with the care of someone, a  beloved relative this and have to call the shots.

Clearly, some of you don't get out much, I'm guessing your relatives would have made plans for other more sane relatives to take care of things for them, so you don't have to...usually the way with mentally ill family members the saner ones don't wish to burden with their care.

Do you know what annoys me most?

I worry about others who could have done with some sincere advice in this thread, those currently in this predicament, this or not long have... , only for the thread to have been reduced to Mantras old war cries and pickled vendettas again.  Cant have a civilised discussion with uncivilised people, hence why people are leaving.

Ok, putting up with trolls is one thing, but sadistic malicious trolls is another thing again, I don't think anyone really benefits from engaging in discussions with these sorts of people, as it can be rather off-putting to say the least.  The discussion should have remained respectful, if not for mellies benefit, but for others who may have been facing something like this now as we speak, did any of you think about this?

Only a fool would have called the shovel a shovel in this way,(black and white thinker)...that or someone intentionally trying to cause trouble (Which is my guess)...because I can only think of one sincere individual who might be forgiven for thinking otherwise, an individual who is autistic, ...  this and takes things literately, lacks the ability to read between the lines, pick up on innuendo, social cues and gestures, verbal,written or otherwise.

If this is you Mantra or Aussey, my sincere apologies for your apparent lack of comprehension, understanding. .....but I really think most would have realised Mellie and her family made the decision under the careful guidance of the palliative care team, or did you sincerely think mellie and her mum  decided to dress-up in nurses masks and behave like Frankensteins brides out in their back shed or something?

Idiots!

This is Australia, not some 3rd world country we live in jeeze.

Evolve!!

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 15^th, 2010 at 6:15pm:


You are a neurotic twit, who lacks basic comprehension, social and communication skills.

My sympathies.

You are probably the dumbest smart person I have ever come across gizmo, your statements are both offensive and stupid.

Anyone too bloody perverse to accept that these sorts of decisions are made daily, under the advice and care of medical staff whose primary concern is always the best interests of the patient, and if caring and concerned family is on hand, they do involve them in the decision making process.

I am truly ashamed at the lack of understanding and compassion shown by some members here, as they most certainly should know better than to make such base and disgusting assertions, based on one post that left it up to the common sense of the reader to understand that such actions would obviously take place in palliative care, by medical staff, and any who chose to read it differently would need to be seriously ignorant of what happens, in which case they should have asked, rather than make ugly stupid comments.

Alternately they are just lowlifes seeking to exploit a poorly worded comment to get some perverse satisfaction from making derogatory statements about others.