Condell is such a precious chap isn't he just.

Soren wrote on Oct 8^th, 2010 at 10:34am:


What's this guy's problem with the BNP?

Have fun sh*tting over the only party that would actually do anything about what you hate so much, Pat.

I think the fundamental problem with opposing colour coding is that even superior, pro-Western minorities eventually beget uncontrollable progeny, and this is the unfortunate reality of the situation. This happens with African immigrants all the time, and I'm talking about the elite ones with college educations and everything, not the refugees who fight at Miss Adelaide pageants. Pro-western attitudes and gratefulness slowly metamorphiss into resentment and identity conflict across generations, as the children of exceptionals rebel or become unexceptional and interested in the proportional representation of their group. It isn't just about getting a job or not not breaking any laws, but social attitudes are also really important; you don't want ethnocentrists, even exceptional ethnocentrics, stirring the pot. As new generations tend to regress from exception, which is the general rule in every group, they will only become more interested in these things, posing problems for everybody. This only means that it is rational from the standpoint of a position that aims to maximise long term national cohesion to make choices that on the whole are statistical in nature rather than individual oriented, concerning selection of immigrants.

Exceptional exceptionals however, like VS Naipaul , are fine. They should be welcomed, but I am concerned with the great mass of the "above average" individuals of the tinted races, which even in spite of their infinite preferability to the below average individuals of the tinted races, are still causing all sorts of headaches for the natives in the countries in which they arrive. It is not because they are bad but because they are generally ethnocentric, and if they as individuals are not, their children are likely to be, or more likely to cause general fractition than the children of individuals that are white. Parties like the BNP probably witness the consequences of the disregard for these principles all the time and feel the need to act on them in policy -- Indian immigrants in the United States and the United Kingdom are definitely exceptional in comparison the vast mass of Indian people, but they are largely, or become so across generations, ethnocentrists, critics and general whingers, and the BNP are right on the money not wanting individuals like that in the U.K. You however have helped me change my mind on the matter of truly exceptional minorities who will actually be a genuine enrichment to our societies and should be welcomed here.

I was expecting you would make a response like that but I am not sure, and the jury is still out, of course, whether we are dealing with something that is just a problem exacerbated and created by liberal retards or whether we are dealing with a problem that is simply fundamental to human beings; tribalism and group conflict. Eitherway, this is extremely dangerous ground we are treading on and the stakes are very high (which is why I talk about it so much), with the potential implications of ancient societies being torn apart by competition for scarce resources between conflicting ethnic groups, with all aspects of these societies coming down to power competition between groups. We've started to see this in the United States for instance, with affirmative action quota mania, and the obsession in posts of power reflecting the demographic composition of America and in minority groups demanding that they be "represented" in the corridors of power. Groups that do not have traditions of nuclear family formation and moral universalism are especially uninterested in that which we value and are interested in, preferring policies that strengthen their own groups. And those individuals of these groups that do not concur with these sentiments are less guaranteed to have offspring that will likewise follow them in the future than those of our own group, which is unfortunate but real.

There are other confounding issues here, such as research indicating that ethnic diversity in itself erodes interpersonal trust (and is the key ingredient in the activation of a whole slew of other deleterious social effects) between individuals within communities. ** The jury is still out of course on what all of this truly means, and what mechanisms are actually causing it to all come about to begin with, but it is so important it cannot be ignored.


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It is interesting that we are so fundamentally at odds on highly specific aspects of our particular ideologies and likewise so similiar at the same time. Perhaps it is unfortunate, but it is no problem to me.

The fundamental objection I have to Islam is that, given an opportunity the brain washed followers of this cult would set our civilisation back 2,000 years.

Islam is the Nazi party of our age, the major threat to the freedom and dignity of our offspring.  I hope we are equal to this threat, as those before us were.

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No. Those posts were filled with a lot of semi-blather last night and I was partially drunk. I don't even know what I'm posting anymore most of the time.

this is the internet/ozpolitic, my friend