abu_rashid wrote on Sep 16^th, 2010 at 9:04pm:


They have been taken in by Islam. Or perhaps appropriated Islam for their own psychological needs, like you, Abu.

In my view, the vast majority of westerners who convert to Islam do so as a political act or as a gesture of 'up yours' to their families. Or both.

When there was communist and fascist parties, they would have joined either, depending on what bridges they wanted to burn. In the 60s and 70s they would have gone with the Krishnas or the Orange people or the Buddhists. They would have gron their hair, smoked dope and adored Che.

Turning to Islam is a rebellion against the 'west' and their parents, as they understand rebellion (being irritating).  Islam is now politically significant, as an ideology. But kif you are searching for spiritual riches, Islam has very little to recommend it. It it is spiritually, ethically, philosophically incoherent - an instant  plus for the uncultivated and disaffected. If you are in search of being a defiant western kid, it's perfect: you don't have to think, just follow orders and it will make you an instant outsider. Instant karma.

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Is that so......'usually?'  I'd a thunk they 'usually' did so because of where they were born, what their parents embraced, but, then again, what would I know?  

freediver wrote on Sep 18^th, 2010 at 6:02pm:


The witnesses wouldn`t be able to testify, CC cameras and other cameras wouldn`t be able to provide evidence.  Too easy really.

aussiefree2ride wrote on Sep 20^th, 2010 at 8:57am:


So you are defending the denial of such basic human rights by arguing it is their right? 

aussiefree2ride,

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Right, just like they couldn't if someone who wore a Santa Claus or Blinky Bill costume or motorcycle helmet did the same. Shall they be banned from all public places also?

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Consuming illegal intoxicants is banned in all countries, it's just a matter of which substances are deemed illegal. There's good reason for it, since they cause mayhem in society.

Covering your body does not harm anyone, except the racist scumbags who can't help but have a coronary anytime they see anyone wearing something a little different to them.

Get over it dropkick or go and live in a more ethno-centric white/anglo haven, if you can still find one.

abu_rashid wrote on Sep 20^th, 2010 at 7:35am:


Odd then that you put so much effort into re-writing geopolitical history.

abu_rashid wrote on Sep 21^st, 2010 at 8:31pm:






Ha!! the stupidity of mentally disoriented Muslims is inexhaustible. Out of one corner of your mouth you are boasting of the numbers of Westerners 'embracing' Islam, out of the other corner you are frothing about 'racism' when people object to their ghostly get-up.

Secondly - just imagine if that ugly sack was white and not black. You would be arguing the opposite, with the same idiotic fervour.

Muslims are indeed lost in modernity.



KKK costume, 1868

freediver wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2010 at 10:47pm:



Nonsense. You should ask these Muslims how they understand the French laws pertaining to laicite (dating to the early 20th century) and conspoicuous religious symbols such as the face covering of Muslim women.

Religious expression is not banned. Conspicuous religious symbols are, in the public domain.

Article 1 of the Constitution:


France shall be an indivisible, secular, democratic and social Republic. It shall ensure the equality of all citizens before the law, without distinction of origin, race or religion. It shall respect all beliefs. It shall be organised on a decentralised basis.

Statutes shall promote equal access by women and men to elective offices and posts as well as to position of professional and social responsibility.
http://www.assemblee-nationale.fr/english/8ab.asp