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aussiefree2ride Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3538	Re: So what are you going to do with faster internet? Reply #15 - Sep 20^th, 2010 at 9:30am longweekend58 wrote on Sep 20^th, 2010 at 9:21am: so... nothing you cant already do? how surprising! Anyone can have broadband right now.
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Please delete Gold Member Offline Please delete this smacking PROFILE Posts: 2936	Re: So what are you going to do with faster internet? Reply #16 - Sep 20^th, 2010 at 9:49am So you would advocate that the coalition announce that their proposal for broadband is to do nothing, since you can't see any benefit to faster internet speeds, mr weekend?
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Reply #17 - Sep 20^th, 2010 at 9:50am

del you still have no facts on how it will cost the taxpayer more .. so the assumption only on that it can only be lies , mistruths or other proganda by the liberal party machine...

The costs for the NBN are out now for the areas who have it installed and can easily be found ..
http://www.internode.on.net/residential/broadband/fibre_to_the_home/nbn_plans

Optus and Telstra have released their new cable plans which are to compete directly with the NBN and are cheaper then original plans for more speed..

so as far as the Cretin comment is concerned here is the real meaning of the word... and it would appear that based on your lack of information , lack of appreciation , social ineptitude that you are the cretin ...
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Cretin: A word associated to people who lack of intelligence, manners , etiquette, appreciation, moral fibre and glaring social ineptitude

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Reply #18 - Sep 20^th, 2010 at 9:53am

Please delete wrote on Sep 20^th, 2010 at 9:49am:

So you would advocate that the coalition announce that their proposal for broadband is to do nothing, since you can't see any benefit to faster internet speeds, mr weekend?

No, their policy could be exatcly what it was 5 years ago when contracts were signed to give adsl 2 to almost all of australia. then rudd canceleed it and replaced it with... nothing. total cost $4B

Then we can start the process of fibre to the node so that people who NEED faster internet can get (ie pay) for fibre from the node to their premises. total cost: about $4B.

This way we all get what we need at a price we can actually afford to pay! nice idea?

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Reply #19 - Sep 20^th, 2010 at 9:55am

Please delete wrote on Sep 20^th, 2010 at 9:49am:

So you would advocate that the coalition announce that their proposal for broadband is to do nothing, since you can't see any benefit to faster internet speeds, mr weekend?

that is what the coalition did for 12 years absolutely nothing on any infrastructure , projects ... hence why our schools , hospitals , telecommunications are all in need for replacement / upgrading

long ADSL 2 cant go to most of Australia .. their are no substation or lines to do it .. so if that was the coalitions plan they obviously didn't have a clue on whether it would work .. did they do a CBA

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Please delete Gold Member Offline Please delete this smacking PROFILE Posts: 2936	Re: So what are you going to do with faster internet? Reply #20 - Sep 20^th, 2010 at 10:08am So now you agree that there ARE reasons to have faster internet, weekend?
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Reply #21 - Sep 20^th, 2010 at 10:09am

Binary Ninja wrote on Sep 20^th, 2010 at 9:55am:

Please delete wrote on Sep 20^th, 2010 at 9:49am:

So you would advocate that the coalition announce that their proposal for broadband is to do nothing, since you can't see any benefit to faster internet speeds, mr weekend?

that is what the coalition did for 12 years absolutely nothing on any infrastructure , projects ... hence why our schools , hospitals , telecommunications are all in need for replacement / upgrading

long ADSL 2 cant go to most of Australia .. their are no substation or lines to do it .. so if that was the coalitions plan they obviously didn't have a clue on whether it would work .. did they do a CBA

There were contracts already in place to give ADSL 2 standard internet to 93% of australia. it was to cover the gaps in the existing coverage and best of all would ALREADY BE COMPLETED if Rudd had not canned it.

so what do you need faster internet for?

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Please delete Gold Member Offline Please delete this smacking PROFILE Posts: 2936	Re: So what are you going to do with faster internet? Reply #22 - Sep 20^th, 2010 at 10:11am Where did this $4B come in, mr weekend? Are you saying that $4b had been spent, and Rudd cancelled it? How?
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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: So what are you going to do with faster internet? Reply #23 - Sep 20^th, 2010 at 10:14am Please delete wrote on Sep 20^th, 2010 at 10:08am: So now you agree that there ARE reasons to have faster internet, weekend? primarily for SOME businesses and residences that are happy to pay the extra cost - regardless of need.
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Reply #24 - Sep 20^th, 2010 at 10:17am

Please delete wrote on Sep 20^th, 2010 at 10:11am:

Where did this $4B come in, mr weekend? Are you saying that $4b had been spent, and Rudd cancelled it?

How?

The $4B was signed for but not spent because Rudd cancelled the contract and replaced with... nothing. due date for completion of the project to give 93% of australia proper broadband was end 2009. and what do we have instead? NOTHING.

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Reply #25 - Sep 20^th, 2010 at 10:20am

I seriously cannot get that worked up about this whole broadband thing.

It seems to me a load of hot air.

I do have an issue with people in the countryside, who are the minority and choose to live out in the middle of nowhere, getting it before the rest of us in the cities.
That makes no economic sense whatsoever.

Why should they get it first?

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Please delete Gold Member Offline Please delete this smacking PROFILE Posts: 2936	Re: So what are you going to do with faster internet? Reply #26 - Sep 20^th, 2010 at 10:21am So the $4B is a furphy. When you said "then rudd canceleed it and replaced it with... nothing. total cost $4B" you were ... wrong? Lying? Rudd replaced Howards limp proposal with the NBN.
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Binary Ninja Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 460	Re: So what are you going to do with faster internet? Reply #27 - Sep 20^th, 2010 at 10:22am this because our copper lines are at the end of their lifespan .. we have no technical future proofing left ..
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Reply #28 - Sep 20^th, 2010 at 10:27am

Binary Ninja wrote on Sep 20^th, 2010 at 9:50am:

del you still have no facts on how it will cost the taxpayer more .. so the assumption only on that it can only be lies , mistruths or other proganda by the liberal party machine...

The costs for the NBN are out now for the areas who have it installed and can easily be found ..
http://www.internode.on.net/residential/broadband/fibre_to_the_home/nbn_plans

Optus and Telstra have released their new cable plans which are to compete directly with the NBN and are cheaper then original plans for more speed..

so as far as the Cretin comment is concerned here is the real meaning of the word... and it would appear that based on your lack of information , lack of appreciation , social ineptitude that you are the cretin ...
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Cretin: A word associated to people who lack of intelligence, manners , etiquette, appreciation, moral fibre and glaring social ineptitude

Yeah that sounds like Telstra and Optus........no EXTRA charge for super fast internet.... Grin

CRETIN....and you had to look that up........ Grin

I bet you think you can make shyte shine as well.... Grin

My description of you is very accurate......

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Reply #29 - Sep 20^th, 2010 at 10:27am

Please delete wrote on Sep 20^th, 2010 at 10:21am:

So the $4B is a furphy.

When you said "then rudd canceleed it and replaced it with... nothing. total cost $4B" you were ... wrong? Lying?

Rudd replaced Howards limp proposal with the NBN.

You seem to have trouble understanding the facts. If rudd hadnt cancelled the contract, 93% of australians woudl nbow have adsl2+ broadband. it is really THAT simple.

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