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Reply #150 - Sep 22^nd, 2010 at 11:11pm

Equitist wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2010 at 10:08pm:

qikvtec wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2010 at 9:47pm:

Equitist wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2010 at 9:39pm:

I would like to share the outcome of my first-hand experience of upgrading to faster broadband - in the past month...

Value judgements, about teenagers wantonly downloading anime videos, notwithstanding: our household internet usage has increased to around double our previous monthly limit...

It wasn't until we upgraded to faster broadband, that we realised how much download times had been limiting the amount of internet activity possible by the 3 people in our household...

On a more general level, I think it is fair to say that: -

* The internet usage habits of Gen Y are far more data-intensive than those of those of Gen X; and

* There has been an exponential growth in the data-hungry graphic content of the internet - and that there are no signs of a plateau being reached.

What did you upgrade from and to Thy, if you don't mind me asking.

Bigpond ADSL Liberty 16GB to Bigpond ADSL2+ Elite Liberty 50GB - and the dramatic difference in speed is even noticeable on my old laptop, which has only 512K of RAM!

since you went from ADSL 1 to ADLS2+ there is no surprise wince it is potentially 40 times as fast and in your case at least 10 times so.

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Reply #151 - Sep 22^nd, 2010 at 11:28pm

Still putting all value judgements aside, here is my household's actual broadband Internet usage back to the May 2010 bill...

BTW, the modem didn't change in the September bill, just the plan which switched over on 31 August (actually, I think that the lower June usage might be due to several days of downtime because of the death of our old ADSL modem)...

Moreover, in this household, we also have a total of 3 token mobile data plans - a Dodo mobile wireless broadband dongle and 2 mobile phones - all of which are utilised at various times (sometimes daily)...

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Reply #152 - Sep 23^rd, 2010 at 8:32am

i use a average of 20gb - 25gb per month and we do not download video or torrents .. just couple of machines , smartphones , itunes for a very little amount of music and online games etc..

I have watched our usage creep up as thing like youtube has become more popular ... news websites that stream are also heavy in content ... dial up and slower types of internet cant and wont be able to handle the web content these days the website are more feature rich to supply more information ..

A simple site that used to be text now has shopping carts and streaming video as the normal .. text based forums can have pictures inserted or youtube videos it is just the way it is

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Reply #153 - Sep 23^rd, 2010 at 8:39am

Binary Ninja wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2010 at 8:32am:

i use a average of 20gb - 25gb per month and we do not download video or torrents .. just couple of machines , smartphones , itunes for a very little amount of music and online games etc..

I have watched our usage creep up as thing like youtube has become more popular ... news websites that stream are also heavy in content ... dial up and slower types of internet cant and wont be able to handle the web content these days the website are more feature rich to supply more information ..

A simple site that used to be text now has shopping carts and streaming video as the normal .. text based forums can have pictures inserted or youtube videos it is just the way it is

and yet amazingly you can still manage to do it on your ancient broadband which by your own admisison is 30Mbs. the benefit to you wil be what exactly??

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Reply #155 - Sep 23^rd, 2010 at 8:50am

Kat wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2010 at 8:46am:

My SPEED is fine(ish), but d/l limits on wireless are a smacking joke.

$49.95 a month for THREE GIGS?

Then it goes to dial-up speed where you are pushing shyte uphill simply to open an email.

And forget about trying to open the Bigpuddle home-page in less than 10 minutes:-((

smack me!

Why dont you have internet wired up at home and use a wireless modem?

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Reply #156 - Sep 23^rd, 2010 at 9:00am

"the benefit to you wil be what exactly?? "

The ability to continue to use the internet, as the content gets richer and options increase.

Geez mr weekend, how are the luddite classes going? Anyone with half a brain knows what is going to happen with the internet, and even oldies will be using it in ways that would have been undreamed of 3 years ago.

If you will prove to me that nothing new will come onto the internet, that new uses will NOT be developed, I'll agree with you. Otherwise your refrain just sounds like sour grapes and "we'll all be rooned" chicken little crap.

Here's another prediction one for you - cars will be connected, and kids will be watching youtube in the back seat while parents are guided using real time GPS. And toll roads won't need e-tags anymore.

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Reply #157 - Sep 23^rd, 2010 at 9:07am

Please delete wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2010 at 9:00am:

"the benefit to you wil be what exactly?? "

The ability to continue to use the internet, as the content gets richer and options increase.

Geez mr weekend, how are the luddite classes going? Anyone with half a brain knows what is going to happen with the internet, and even oldies will be using it in ways that would have been undreamed of 3 years ago.

If you will prove to me that nothing new will come onto the internet, that new uses will NOT be developed, I'll agree with you. Otherwise your refrain just sounds like sour grapes and "we'll all be rooned" chicken little crap.

Here's another prediction one for you - cars will be connected, and kids will be watching youtube in the back seat while parents are guided using real time GPS. And toll roads won't need e-tags anymore.

and the govt wil know where your car is at all times... yeah. real thrilled!

and to repeat YET AGAIN my complaint about the NBN... it is the COST and the fact that we are primarily funding an entertainment vehicle. very few people will actually benefit from it in the cities - who already have broadband. and the areas that dont have broadband could get it already with relatively cheap infrastructure improvements. The reason the govt is refusing to do a cost-benefit analysis is because there is very little benefit. and the cost is massive. IM all for fibre to the node and let customers choose to connect to the node if there is a genuine need (and a willingness to pay the connection cost). But paying to give EVERYBODY fibre in a country witht he population (lack of) density of ours is ludicrous. If we put down fibre to the node now then when the need for fibre to the home becomes apparent then we can do that. But I belive you wil find the need is a LONG LONG time coming.

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Reply #158 - Sep 23^rd, 2010 at 9:13am

"and the govt wil know where your car is at all times... yeah. real thrilled!"

A logical development. Electronic speed signs, and cars limited to those speeds.

Or an upload to the RTA followed by all the fines for all the times you broke a road rule.

Safer trucks, TRULY speed limited.

Easier to track crims.

Lots of negatives for rule breakers - is that you mr weekend?

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Reply #159 - Sep 23^rd, 2010 at 9:15am

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2010 at 8:39am:

Binary Ninja wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2010 at 8:32am:

i use a average of 20gb - 25gb per month and we do not download video or torrents .. just couple of machines , smartphones , itunes for a very little amount of music and online games etc..

I have watched our usage creep up as thing like youtube has become more popular ... news websites that stream are also heavy in content ... dial up and slower types of internet cant and wont be able to handle the web content these days the website are more feature rich to supply more information ..

A simple site that used to be text now has shopping carts and streaming video as the normal .. text based forums can have pictures inserted or youtube videos it is just the way it is

and yet amazingly you can still manage to do it on your ancient broadband which by your own admisison is 30Mbs. the benefit to you wil be what exactly??

30Mbps is fine at present but we would never of got it if the NBN or other companies were not improving their speeds to compete ... to me I mighten see much difference on 100Mbps but it will be more technology like internet TV other areas that would benefit...

It will futureproof your needs as the content grows like as others have said .. i never used to need the speed or the usage but as games got more content rich , video streaming got better quality , website were filled with more information it was better to move on .

The cost you keep going on about is absolute rubbish , you know their is investors that will pay like Telstra to come on board and this will make the cost a lot cheaper in the long term ..

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Reply #160 - Sep 23^rd, 2010 at 9:20am

Please delete wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2010 at 9:13am:

"and the govt wil know where your car is at all times... yeah. real thrilled!"

A logical development. Electronic speed signs, and cars limited to those speeds.

Or an upload to the RTA followed by all the fines for all the times you broke a road rule.

Safer trucks, TRULY speed limited.

Easier to track crims.

Lots of negatives for rule breakers - is that you mr weekend?

and every time you exceeded the speed limit you are automatically fined? are you SERIOUS?????

if this is what you want then frankly you need your head examined. You are probably one of those people that wants speed cameras at every intersection (btw they have been shown to INCREASE accidents because people are watching speedos and not traffic) and cameras on parking spots. and i suppose you will be supporting the govt randomly searching your hard drive via the internet to look for naughty or subversive stuff?

NBN aside? are you seriously supporting the idea of the govt knowing where we are at all times????

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Reply #161 - Sep 23^rd, 2010 at 9:30am

Binary Ninja wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2010 at 9:15am:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2010 at 8:39am:

Binary Ninja wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2010 at 8:32am:

i use a average of 20gb - 25gb per month and we do not download video or torrents .. just couple of machines , smartphones , itunes for a very little amount of music and online games etc..

I have watched our usage creep up as thing like youtube has become more popular ... news websites that stream are also heavy in content ... dial up and slower types of internet cant and wont be able to handle the web content these days the website are more feature rich to supply more information ..

A simple site that used to be text now has shopping carts and streaming video as the normal .. text based forums can have pictures inserted or youtube videos it is just the way it is

and yet amazingly you can still manage to do it on your ancient broadband which by your own admisison is 30Mbs. the benefit to you wil be what exactly??

30Mbps is fine at present but we would never of got it if the NBN or other companies were not improving their speeds to compete ... to me I mighten see much difference on 100Mbps but it will be more technology like internet TV other areas that would benefit...

It will futureproof your needs as the content grows like as others have said .. i never used to need the speed or the usage but as games got more content rich , video streaming got better quality , website were filled with more information it was better to move on .

The cost you keep going on about is absolute rubbish , you know their is investors that will pay like Telstra to come on board and this will make the cost a lot cheaper in the long term ..

you certainly can spin a line - and it is almost totally rubbish. your 30Mbs connection has nothing to do with competition from the NBN. just for starters, the NBN doesnt even exist outside of a small area in tasmania. you spout some amazing rubbish sometimes. I very much doubt you are a IT expert with the nonsense you come up with sometimes.

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Reply #162 - Sep 23^rd, 2010 at 9:31am

"if this is what you want"

Where is the logic of setting rules which 99% of people break? If your child was saved becasue someones' car was SPEED LIMITED to 40 in a school zone, wouldn't you be happy?

If that truck was prevented from zooming past you at 130 in the right hand lane, wouldn't that be safer?

And I don't worry that "big brother" will know where I am at all times - doesn't bother me.

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Reply #164 - Sep 23^rd, 2010 at 9:37am

Please delete wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2010 at 9:31am:

"if this is what you want"

Where is the logic of setting rules which 99% of people break? If your child was saved becasue someones' car was SPEED LIMITED to 40 in a school zone, wouldn't you be happy?

If that truck was prevented from zooming past you at 130 in the right hand lane, wouldn't that be safer?

And I don't worry that "big brother" will know where I am at all times - doesn't bother me.

so you are one of those drivers that does 55 in a 60 zone so that you wont accidentally speed? the same person that blocks off traffic and causes trouble for other motorists? i always wondered what it would be like to meet someone who would happily have fines generated EVERY TIME you did something wrong. our roads would turn into crawling parking lots if such a thing eventuated. and apparently YOU would be pleased.

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