[quote author=it_is_the_light link=1285736490/0#13 date=1286081806]so one masterbater,one non masterbater

it would seem....next?

anyone anyone -:)[/quote]
There's a story Dr Eric Berne used to highlight a point in (I believe) "Games People Play". It referred to counsellors in a chapter of Alcoholics Anonymous who (as counsellors) were doing a brilliant job at helping alcoholics recover from their addiction. However, came the day when the chapter ran out of ex-drunks to save and so the group stopped meeting. Within 6 months the original counsellors were back on the piss.

There's a story Dr Eric Berne used to highlight a point in (I believe) "Games People Play". It referred to counsellors in a chapter of Alcoholics Anonymous who (as counsellors) were doing a brilliant job at helping alcoholics recover from their addiction. However, came the day when the chapter ran out of ex-drunks to save and so the group stopped meeting. Within 6 months the original counsellors were back on the piss.

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whats that got to do with pulling yourself?

if this brings you joy so be it

however

this act does rob spirituality from you

[quote author=muso link=1285736490/0#6 date=1285807512][quote author=it_is_the_light link=1285736490/0#2 date=1285740559]i am not religious,

this act is of a lower ViBrAtIoN.
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;D
Nobody could possibly miss the deliberate innuendo in that.  You're doing a Karnal, aren't you?

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The Light is right. It is not masturbating that is wrong, per se, but the emission of seed that depletes one of important nutrients and cosmic energies.

You might not go blind, but tinitus is on the cards, along with depression, chronic fatigue syndrome, you name it. A host of modern maladies are caused by the popularisation of the insidious habit of masturbation. Indeed, the breakdown of the family unit as a whole can be seen to have been caused by the rise in this lower-frequency pastime.

Dr Kellogg was right. We should deny ourselves this lower vibratory pleasure for a healthy, well-adjusted life.

[quote author=Karnal link=1285736490/15#19 date=1286092177]
We should deny ourselves this lower vibratory pleasure for a healthy, well-adjusted life. [/quote]


Yet you don't [i]ever[/i] seem able to stop, you obsessive-compulsive, maladjusted Paki wanker!



;D

[quote author=it_is_the_light link=1285736490/0#0 date=1285736489]this is the case yes.

by doing this self abusive act does lessen your ability to LOVE

to your full capability yes,in this 3rd order of density/dimension

in this state of duality existence for you to experience.

hence,

the loss of this ability to LOVE would hinder your experience somewhat

to the heights you may have the care to accelerate toward.

unconditional forgiveness unto you,you have this and always have

it is left upon you alone to forgive yourself,

forgive all others and observe everyone as an angel in the making yes

sacred and divine.

if that dear one would attack you this is mearly a manifestation

of self hatred that dear soul has unto him/herself.

and waiting for the familiar response violence/hatred.

this simply dissolves whence it does come forth unto me

for people do look quite odd when confronted with these humble words

so be it

this is the case for you to discern as its out in the open.

there.....................................i said it -:)

eternal blessings of abundance joy and forgiveness are yours always

namaste[/quote]

[b]Don't ply with yourself.
Your Mummy[/b]

i would choose to not picture anyone masturbating

however

it is the case

a bunch of tossers well so be it

this is what i have to put up with i guess....

till everyone stops being a wanker -:)

with grace

namaste

Reminds me of the joke about the husband who told his wife how the drunk postman at the pub gloated about having sex with 9 out of the 10 women in their street.

- Oh that would be that snobby bitch at Number 4

I like T.I.S.M's words
"When a Yob (Yobbo) and Wanker want a Girl
the Wanker guy will get her.
Both of them are equally ugly,
but the Wanker hides it better"