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Re: Turnbull CANNOT WIN against the future-proof NBN!
Reply #165 - Nov 18^th, 2010 at 3:58pm

Please delete wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 3:37pm:

No, my clear recollection is that you equate inability to get legislation passed, even if that failure is in a hostile senate, as a failure, as poor legislation.

then your recollection is - as usual - rather poor. a GOVT that fails to get legislation thru a hostile senate (as almost every senate has been) is often one that refuses to negotiate. the lower house is a different matter as it is almost unheard of for an opposition to pass a bill

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Re: Turnbull CANNOT WIN against the future-proof NBN!
Reply #167 - Nov 18^th, 2010 at 4:16pm

nichy wrote on Nov 15^th, 2010 at 8:06am:

It also says that while the NBN promises large benefits, it may not be the most cost-effective strategy.

It says $43 billion project entails "substantial financial uncertainties".

Part of the plan is to shut down Telstra's existing copper network and the country's main cable network.

"While establishing a monopoly in this way would protect the viability of the government's investment project, it may not be optimal for cost efficiency and innovation," the OECD says.

It says research has stressed the value of competition between technological platforms for the providing broadband services.

"It would therefore be preferable to maintain competition between technologies in the broadband sector and, within each technology, between internet service providers," it says.

Hey, we could have done without the telephone for a good 30 years... so i'm led to believe!

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Re: Turnbull CANNOT WIN against the future-proof NBN!
Reply #168 - Nov 18^th, 2010 at 4:20pm

Lobo wrote on Nov 15^th, 2010 at 6:41pm:

"In a new report, the OECD said the government had adopted a "picking-the-winner strategy" on the NBN that could hinder the development of "as yet unknown, superior technological alternatives". "....
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So the OECD wants us to wait for "as yet unknown, superior technological alternatives".

Just how long would they like the world to 'Mark Time'?

What did that independant say about, potentially, waiting for the telephone the other day!??!

The Libs will never get passed such remarks: especially coming from the independant that actually backed them!

LOL Cheesy

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Re: Turnbull CANNOT WIN against the future-proof NBN!
Reply #169 - Nov 18^th, 2010 at 4:22pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 2:03pm:

UPDATE ....

The Coalition's attempt to have the Productivity Commission examine the Government's $43 billion National Broadband Network (NBN) has failed, with its bill voted down in the House of Representatives.

Opposition communications spokesman Malcolm Turnbull had introduced a private members bill to refer the NBN to the commission, arguing it needed more scrutiny.

But he was unable to secure the votes of enough independents to pass the legislation and it went down by one vote.

Independent MP Rob Oakeshott supported the bill, but Andrew Wilkie, Tony Windsor and Bob Katter sided with Labor as did Greens MP Adam Bandt.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/11/18/3069806.htm

Go Bob!

LOllybag LOL: Tony must be getting a little worried about his leadership !

I don't think Tony will be there at the next election! Shocked

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Re: Turnbull CANNOT WIN against the future-proof NBN!
Reply #170 - Nov 18^th, 2010 at 4:23pm

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 3:31pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 2:03pm:

UPDATE ....

The Coalition's attempt to have the Productivity Commission examine the Government's $43 billion National Broadband Network (NBN) has failed, with its bill voted down in the House of Representatives.

Opposition communications spokesman Malcolm Turnbull had introduced a private members bill to refer the NBN to the commission, arguing it needed more scrutiny.

But he was unable to secure the votes of enough independents to pass the legislation and it went down by one vote.

Independent MP Rob Oakeshott supported the bill, but Andrew Wilkie, Tony Windsor and Bob Katter sided with Labor as did Greens MP Adam Bandt.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/11/18/3069806.htm

if there were no problems with the NBNimplementation and value the govt woudl send everyone in the country a copy. but they are hiding it. no guesses as to why.

Yeh, as if a loser like you would know! Shocked

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Re: Turnbull CANNOT WIN against the future-proof NBN!
Reply #171 - Nov 18^th, 2010 at 4:28pm

Please delete wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 3:33pm:

Doesn't the fact that Turnbull can't get his bill across the line equal an epic fail, by the standards you apply to Labor, mr longweekend?

Mr Longweekends standars vary on the amount of leftovers you leave him in the crackpipe!

Cheesy

You think I'm lying?!!? Cool

These silver spooners care not for anything outside their priveleged position: they smoke crack to try and keep up with their Mummy and Daddys cold persona as they think that is what gave them their established position in life... they don't see the hard work and the very friendships they had to give up!

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Re: Turnbull CANNOT WIN against the future-proof NBN!
Reply #172 - Nov 18^th, 2010 at 4:30pm

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 3:35pm:

Please delete wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 3:33pm:

Doesn't the fact that Turnbull can't get his bill across the line equal an epic fail, by the standards you apply to Labor, mr longweekend?

maybe you havent heard yet, but LABOR is the govt. it is almost UNHEARD of for an opposition to get a bill passed thru the parliament without bipartisan support.

try again...

Mate: we are not your multiplicity of crackpipes... go find them and cry into them!

Failing that, get out the weetbix...... SON!

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Re: Turnbull CANNOT WIN against the future-proof NBN!
Reply #173 - Nov 18^th, 2010 at 4:31pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 4:22pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 2:03pm:

UPDATE ....

The Coalition's attempt to have the Productivity Commission examine the Government's $43 billion National Broadband Network (NBN) has failed, with its bill voted down in the House of Representatives.

Opposition communications spokesman Malcolm Turnbull had introduced a private members bill to refer the NBN to the commission, arguing it needed more scrutiny.

But he was unable to secure the votes of enough independents to pass the legislation and it went down by one vote.

Independent MP Rob Oakeshott supported the bill, but Andrew Wilkie, Tony Windsor and Bob Katter sided with Labor as did Greens MP Adam Bandt.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/11/18/3069806.htm

Go Bob!

LOllybag LOL: Tony must be getting a little worried about his leadership !

I don't think Tony will be there at the next election! Shocked

one of the stupidest comments yet... bob katter couldnt even lead a ONE man party.

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Re: Turnbull CANNOT WIN against the future-proof NBN!
Reply #175 - Nov 18^th, 2010 at 4:39pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 4:36pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 4:31pm:

one of the stupidest comments yet... bob katter couldnt even lead a ONE man party.

wAS THAT THE GIST OF THE CONVERSATION WAS IT?!!?

oh MY, AREN'T WE DEALING WITH A REAL INTELLECTUAL HERE!

not the sharpest tool inthe shed are we??

moron.

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Reply #176 - Nov 18^th, 2010 at 5:11pm

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 4:39pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 4:36pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 4:31pm:

one of the stupidest comments yet... bob katter couldnt even lead a ONE man party.

wAS THAT THE GIST OF THE CONVERSATION WAS IT?!!?

oh MY, AREN'T WE DEALING WITH A REAL INTELLECTUAL HERE!

not the sharpest tool inthe shed are we??

moron.

Don't tell me: Daddykins pays you in crack and a safehouse( the spare rental) to sell it... aslong as you spread the propaganda and he doesn't have to listen to you!

Is that about it?!!?

Mate, that's what happens in WA!

A bunch of tryhards over here!

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Re: Turnbull CANNOT WIN against the future-proof NBN!
Reply #177 - Nov 18^th, 2010 at 5:53pm

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 3:31pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 2:03pm:

UPDATE ....

The Coalition's attempt to have the Productivity Commission examine the Government's $43 billion National Broadband Network (NBN) has failed, with its bill voted down in the House of Representatives.

Opposition communications spokesman Malcolm Turnbull had introduced a private members bill to refer the NBN to the commission, arguing it needed more scrutiny.

But he was unable to secure the votes of enough independents to pass the legislation and it went down by one vote.

Independent MP Rob Oakeshott supported the bill, but Andrew Wilkie, Tony Windsor and Bob Katter sided with Labor as did Greens MP Adam Bandt.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/11/18/3069806.htm

if there were no problems with the NBNimplementation and value the govt woudl send everyone in the country a copy

In the same spirit the government of the day did with the Overland Telegraph, Snowy Mountains Scheme, Sydney Harbour Bridge and Great Ocean Road infrastructures

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Re: Turnbull CANNOT WIN against the future-proof NBN!
Reply #178 - Nov 18^th, 2010 at 5:55pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 5:53pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 3:31pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 2:03pm:

UPDATE ....

The Coalition's attempt to have the Productivity Commission examine the Government's $43 billion National Broadband Network (NBN) has failed, with its bill voted down in the House of Representatives.

Opposition communications spokesman Malcolm Turnbull had introduced a private members bill to refer the NBN to the commission, arguing it needed more scrutiny.

But he was unable to secure the votes of enough independents to pass the legislation and it went down by one vote.

Independent MP Rob Oakeshott supported the bill, but Andrew Wilkie, Tony Windsor and Bob Katter sided with Labor as did Greens MP Adam Bandt.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/11/18/3069806.htm

if there were no problems with the NBNimplementation and value the govt woudl send everyone in the country a copy

In the same spirit the government of the day did with the Overland Telegraph, Snowy Mountains Scheme, Sydney Harbour Bridge and Great Ocean Road infrastructures

i DON'T THINK YOU realise that longweekend has no idea!

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Reply #179 - Nov 18^th, 2010 at 5:57pm

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