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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: New 'habitable' Planet found. Reply #30 - Oct 12^th, 2010 at 3:46pm It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Oct 12^th, 2010 at 12:19pm: Sounds more like a Junkie/Alcoholic saying "I don't have a problem (I can quit anytime)". http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eqarchives/year/eqstats.php There was a peak around 2005
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Re: New 'habitable' Planet found.
Reply #31 - Oct 12^th, 2010 at 8:59pm

There is something very wrong with the data in that table. Probably sampling bias.

gizmo_2655 wrote on Oct 12^th, 2010 at 2:55pm:

locutius wrote on Oct 12^th, 2010 at 2:42pm:

Well, applying the lable habitable to this planet not only seems incredibly optimistic but showed a complete lack of sensible restraint. Besides at 20 light years I'm not taking public transport so I hope they have parking.

Let see. Now 20 light years = 117,573,371,500,000 miles.

These comments from yahoo answers gave me a chuckle..

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You guys are all thinking way too scientific-y... All you need is a a space shuttle capable of long distance travel over numerous generations.

If a shuttle can effectively hold enough food and fuel for this trip, you will need a couple willing individuals (100 people or so, 50 females/50 males that are fertile) to procreate throughout the voyage. They have a couple kids... Then those kids have a couple kids... All the way, until this colony reaches it's destination.

This way we can go today with our current technology.

Something this author may never be accused of, you think???

Yup, that's why I said a 'Heinlein Universe Ship'.....

It's theoretically possible..

And what do they do when they get there? Hope they can just land and walk out the door and start eating fresh fruit? Hope they can maintain this ship forever?

It is a pretty serious undertaking trying to get a few men to the moon and back.

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Re: New 'habitable' Planet found.
Reply #32 - Oct 13^th, 2010 at 1:09am

Good statistic Muso.
But like all things 'earthly', I must adhere to the principle of Tides and say that maybe in 2015 there will be another 'peak' period ...and maybe the time between such peak periods will shorten?
...I'm just going with 'coincidence' thats all, which is something Science can't always prove (the Grey Nurse Shark population was a good example of the short-comings of Science).

I don't think we have Global Warming well underway, but we have the 'potential' to do so ...just like we had the 'potential' to annihilate human existence in all out Thermonuclear War (USSR/USA) for some silly belief of making the entire Northern Hemisphere 'all white'.
So if we nearly 'shot ourselves' in the head, then I'm sure we are nearly doing ourselves in with pollutants like a Drug/Alcohol overdose.
...I'm just going with 'common sense' thats all.

Belief systems, like the reason behind the Cold War (see Gen Macarthur) is quite amazing with Humanity and there is no reason to deny that a part of the world that has the cultural characteristic and dream to 'fly' away to 'Heaven' (and leave a Hell behind for everyone else) would put out such a thing as this.
You watch, there will be more 'Habitable' Planets made publically aware ...all out of reach like a Carrot on a Stick. NASA scientists also did the "Fear of" factor with the Supernova nearby that could wipe us all out sooner than we think.
So everybody "bow down" and give total empowerment to NASA and the American Dream.

This Topic aside ...I do think the 'majority' of NASA does a great job on behalf of everyone on this planet. They are not perfect.

The world looks to us in regards to Water, Oceans, etc. This would be 'official', except for some Harkonnen's (ALP/Coalition) ruling the roost here in Australia on behalf of some other parts of the world.
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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: New 'habitable' Planet found. Reply #33 - Oct 13^th, 2010 at 6:46am Send all the right-wingers, conservatives and capitalists there. ONE-WAY.
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Re: New 'habitable' Planet found.
Reply #34 - Oct 13^th, 2010 at 6:59am

freediver wrote on Oct 12^th, 2010 at 8:59pm:

There is something very wrong with the data in that table. Probably sampling bias.

gizmo_2655 wrote on Oct 12^th, 2010 at 2:55pm:

locutius wrote on Oct 12^th, 2010 at 2:42pm:

Well, applying the lable habitable to this planet not only seems incredibly optimistic but showed a complete lack of sensible restraint. Besides at 20 light years I'm not taking public transport so I hope they have parking.

Let see. Now 20 light years = 117,573,371,500,000 miles.

These comments from yahoo answers gave me a chuckle..

Quote:

You guys are all thinking way too scientific-y... All you need is a a space shuttle capable of long distance travel over numerous generations.

If a shuttle can effectively hold enough food and fuel for this trip, you will need a couple willing individuals (100 people or so, 50 females/50 males that are fertile) to procreate throughout the voyage. They have a couple kids... Then those kids have a couple kids... All the way, until this colony reaches it's destination.

This way we can go today with our current technology.

Something this author may never be accused of, you think???

Yup, that's why I said a 'Heinlein Universe Ship'.....

It's theoretically possible..

And what do they do when they get there? Hope they can just land and walk out the door and start eating fresh fruit? Hope they can maintain this ship forever?

It is a pretty serious undertaking trying to get a few men to the moon and back.

Well assuming the planet IS habitable, it can, theoretically, be done.....

The ship would have to be a LOT bigger than a shuttle, and 50 couples (50 men/50 women) is way to small a gene pool....Need to be 2000+.

But with hydroponics for food and oxygen, and lateral spin to provide gravity........it's doable..

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culldav Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2020	Re: New 'habitable' Planet found. Reply #35 - Oct 13^th, 2010 at 11:30am Just what the galaxy needs; another planet for humanity to stuff up through its own incompetence.
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gizmo_2655 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16010 South West NSW Gender:	Re: New 'habitable' Planet found. Reply #36 - Oct 13^th, 2010 at 11:52am culldav wrote on Oct 13^th, 2010 at 11:30am: Just what the galaxy needs; another planet for humanity to stuff up through its own incompetence. Depends who we send dav.... We could send Greenpeace enmass.....Then there'd be no risk of environmental damage to the new planet....
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Re: New 'habitable' Planet found.
Reply #37 - Oct 13^th, 2010 at 1:28pm

freediver wrote on Oct 12^th, 2010 at 8:59pm:

There is something very wrong with the data in that table. Probably sampling bias.

Well, for those Earthquakes greater than a Modified Mercalli index of 4.5, the sampling is 100%. There is nothing to indicate that Earthquakes are getting any worse. If anything, they are getting slightly less frequent over the timescale provided.

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