freediver wrote on Jul 30
th, 2013 at 12:36pm:
Quote:I would attach a scan from p.146 vol 3 from Saheeh Muslim - translated by the most famous Saudi English language publisher Darussalam, however, Ozpolitics is not letting me upload it.
You could always google it. I doubt you are the first to discuss it on the internet. Then other people could quote it too.
Why should I waste time trying to google something that may not be on the web when I have the book right here in front of me?
Quote:It has nothing to do with leaving the house with or without permission.
Another mistranslation perhaps?
Read the whole hadeeth it doesn't mention permission. It only says that prophet shoved his wife after he had mistaken her for an intruder in the dead of night.
freediver wrote on Jul 30
th, 2013 at 12:36pm:
That is not what I said at all. He was telling her off for sneaking around at night. People have been killed in similar circumstances. I have seen quite a few cases of people killing family members that they have mistaken for intruders.
freediver wrote on Jul 30
th, 2013 at 12:36pm:
[quote]She was not six years old. When she was six, she did not live with the prophet. In fact she had not yet migrated to Madina
So she lied about Marrying Muhammed when she was six?
In many cultures, getting married does mean cohabitation. Marriage is seen as a contract which can be fulfilled at a later date.
At any rate, Aisha could not possibly have been six at the time , because the events described in the hadeeth did not occur until many years later. She didn't even live in Madina when she was six. The verse in the Quran mentioned in the hadeeth was not revealed yet when she was six. The graveyard mention in the hadeeth did not yet exist when she was six.
freediver wrote on Jul 30
th, 2013 at 12:36pm:
She lied about him striking her?
The word 'strike' is not mentioned in the original Arabic wording of the hadeeth.
freediver wrote on Jul 30
th, 2013 at 12:36pm:
She lied about the whole permission to leave the house thing?
Permission to leave the house is not mentioned in the hadeeth.
freediver wrote on Jul 30
th, 2013 at 12:36pm:
And all this from his "favourite" child bride?
As I have said previously, Aisha would have had to have been at least 15 at the time - and 15 was considered adult by all contemporary standards.
The prophet's 'favourite' wife was Khadija - she was 15 years his senior. She passed away at about 62 years of age when the pagans starved the Muslims during the blockades in Mecca. At that time she was the prophet's only wife and he was about 47.
Quote:Narrated Aisha: "I did not feel jealous of any of the wives of the Prophet as much as I did of Khadija though I did not see her, but the Prophet used to mention her very often, and when ever he slaughtered a sheep, he would cut its parts and send them to the women friends of Khadija. When I sometimes said to him, "(You treat Khadija in such a way) as if there is no woman on earth except Khadija," he would say, "Khadija was such-and-such, and from her I had children."
[Bukhari]
Of the 11 women that the prophet married in his lifetime, Aisha was the only virgin, the rest were widows or divorcees.
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