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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 102349 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Students riot Reply #15 - Nov 13^th, 2010 at 1:15pm Hey Nail - there was a toilet at Monash University that had some graffitti above a toilet roll holder saying: BA - take one
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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30036 Gender:	Re: Students riot Reply #16 - Nov 13^th, 2010 at 1:19pm Bobby. wrote on Nov 13^th, 2010 at 1:15pm: Hey Nail - there was a toilet at Monash University that had some graffitti above a toilet roll holder saying: BA - take one But the BA's are a stepping stone to becoming a lawyer in this country. We need more useless lawyers to screw more people here
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 102349 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Students riot Reply #17 - Nov 13^th, 2010 at 1:22pm The thing is Nail that if you get a BSc you end up being some lab technician in a white coat getting paid less than the average wage.
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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30036 Gender:	Re: Students riot Reply #18 - Nov 13^th, 2010 at 1:32pm Bobby. wrote on Nov 13^th, 2010 at 1:22pm: The thing is Nail that if you get a BSc you end up being some lab technician in a white coat getting paid less than the average wage. some builder c.nt makes a killing from government stimulus whilst university qualified people live in squalor
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Reply #19 - Nov 13^th, 2010 at 1:34pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 13^th, 2010 at 1:15pm:

Hey Nail - there was a toilet at Monash University that had some graffitti
above a toilet roll holder saying:

BA - take one Grin

Don't you need a BA now days to say "Do you want fries with that"????

There was a joke I heard years ago.....BA stands for Bugger All, and PhD stands for Piled Higher and Deeper ...

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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Reply #20 - Nov 13^th, 2010 at 1:37pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 13^th, 2010 at 1:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 13^th, 2010 at 1:22pm:

The thing is Nail that if you get a BSc you end up being some
lab technician in a white coat getting paid less than the average wage.

some builder c.nt makes a killing from government stimulus whilst university qualified people live in squalor Sad

Yeah, but then, how much more effort (physical effort, and length of training) is required to become a licensed builder, as compared to a university degree???

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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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JC Denton Gold Member Offline Posts: 5463 Gender:	Re: Students riot Reply #21 - Nov 13^th, 2010 at 2:01pm Yeah, and lots of degrees are useless. If you can't get a decent job with your Indigenous studies or Arts degree blame yourself for taking the course.
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Reply #22 - Nov 13^th, 2010 at 2:17pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 13^th, 2010 at 1:37pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 13^th, 2010 at 1:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 13^th, 2010 at 1:22pm:

The thing is Nail that if you get a BSc you end up being some
lab technician in a white coat getting paid less than the average wage.

some builder c.nt makes a killing from government stimulus whilst university qualified people live in squalor Sad

Yeah, but then, how much more effort (physical effort, and length of training) is required to become a licensed builder, as compared to a university degree???

To really be competant, it takes 15 to 20 yrs.

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Reply #23 - Nov 13^th, 2010 at 2:20pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 13^th, 2010 at 10:18am:

Why do the conservatives always want education to cost more.

I would think that making education available to more people would be the best way to improve the nations productivity in the longer term.

The conservative ideology of educating the wealthy is well past its use by date.

We have interest free loans for goodness sake! Even if my degree costed $200k, I would still go to university and be able to pay it off! If you increase the price the only thing you would be discouraging are arts students. I definitely agree that making education available to more people is a good thing, and I think that a way to do this is to stop giving out student visas. In all of my classes at the moment, they're dominated by international students.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 13^th, 2010 at 1:07pm:

Degrees such as a BA or a BSc are almost worthless.
They can only be used to get your foot in the door for more studies.
You shouldn't have to pay for rubbish like that.
Arts and science are only if you want a dead end low paid job.

I reckon people shouldn't even be applying to rubbish degrees like this if they choose useless majors.

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 13^th, 2010 at 1:11pm:

thanks to the libbos killing off manufacturing and R&D there is less and less need for science in Australia. The libbos attitude is that science and technology is some other countries responsibility. We just dig the crap out of the ground and flog it off for a song and flog overpriced property to punters who can least afford it (

Manufacturing likely would have prospered in Australia if the Labor party didn't dump workchoices.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 102349 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Students riot Reply #24 - Nov 13^th, 2010 at 2:32pm Quote: Yeah, but then, how much more effort (physical effort, and length of training) is required to become a licensed builder, as compared to a university degree??? To really be competant, it takes 15 to 20 yrs. Maybe - but many builders are hopeless too.
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Reply #25 - Nov 13^th, 2010 at 2:54pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 13^th, 2010 at 2:32pm:

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Yeah, but then, how much more effort (physical effort, and length of training) is required to become a licensed builder, as compared to a university degree???

To really be competant, it takes 15 to 20 yrs.

Maybe - but many builders are hopeless too.

Granted, but to get a BA or BsC is like 4 years...but a Master Builder is minimum of 10 years....why shouldn't a Master Builder get MORE than a 'paper' degree???

If you get a 'dodgy' BA, you just can't think of any good theories....if you get a 'dodgy' Master Builder's cert, the house falls down....

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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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imcrookonit Ex Member	Re: Students riot Reply #26 - Nov 13^th, 2010 at 4:06pm Workchoices was nothing more than a tool. Given to employers in order to cut wages and/or conditions.
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Verge Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6329 Gender:	Re: Students riot Reply #27 - Nov 13^th, 2010 at 4:52pm Quote: Workchoices was nothing more than a tool. Given to employers in order to cut wages and/or conditions. Do us a favour and change your name to workchoices.
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imcrookonit Ex Member	Re: Students riot Reply #28 - Nov 13^th, 2010 at 4:58pm No I wont, Workchoices is where it belongs, (In the rubbish bin.)
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Jaykaye_09 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 583 Gender:	Re: Students riot Reply #29 - Nov 13^th, 2010 at 6:53pm Man, some people here clearly haven't been to a university to study for a long while, if at all. Gold.
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