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Reply #285 - Nov 18th, 2010 at 4:06pm
 
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I don't dismiss your proposals as un-scientific - most "science" is questionable - I dismiss them as irrelevant.


I already explained why they are relevant in the sense that they pertain to important indices that have value to me and society.

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Race is constructed by geography, diet and factors such as war. Mongolians moved to the Americas and become Injuns.


Yes, that is true and it is the origin of species. If you take a population of people, even a population as small as your extended family and stick them in two different locations, leave them there for a few hundred generations with no gene-flow between the two, or very negligble amounts of gene-flow between the two, they will develop group characteristics.

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I don't know what the cut-off line is - at what point you describe a tribe as God's chosen people. The Nazis were pretty good at it: Germans were higher than the French, who were decadent, who were higher than the Italians, who were lazy, who were higer than the Slavs, who were almost subhuman (but not quite), and the Jews were the lowest of the low. Why?


Steven Farron has advanced some interesting arguments that the holocaust was an exercise in race norming and affirmative action taken to a horrendous extreme.

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It was all very "scientific" though.


It wasn't at all. As far as I know the Nazis didn't even like intelligence testing very much; guess why?

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The whole process is about alienation. You're seeking to exclude most of the world's people from entering Australia based on their race. If this isn't exclusive or elitist, what is?


I'm not sure I said that it wasn't. But even then, I have not proposed a perfectly exclusive policy anyway.

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That says nothing about the effects multiethnicity may have on things that people here may consider important. I say let's have an ethnic status quo like in 1924. Bring people in here by the proportion that they are in the population at this present moment.



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There are mean and nice people in every race. If you're going to use a system for classifying people, use something based on their niceness - not something they have no control over.


Niceness has nothing to do with it. I think most people the world over are nice. Perfectly nice people can have very different and conflicting interests. Remember my statement:

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And who are the idiots who let them in? I can't at all fault Muslims or any immigrant groups for wanting to move to country with an infinitely higher standard of living and at the same time, retain their unique cultural heritage and customs. That's a sweet deal for anybody. They ARE just people after all, with their own interests to pursue and attend to. It's the moron Whites who let them do it in the first place that our opporbrium should be directed at.



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Reply #286 - Nov 18th, 2010 at 4:14pm
 
However we can fault immigrants and our officials who queue jump, or behave in a corrupt manner  this and set about entering or allowing others to enter our country illegally. Yes?

Talk about getting off on the wrong foot.

So much for fresh new starts!

....Before having even got here, they have already broken the law.

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Reply #287 - Nov 18th, 2010 at 4:15pm
 
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However we can fault immigrants and our officials who queue jump, or behave in a corrupt manner  this and set about entering or allowing others to enter our country illegally. Yes?


Dunno what you are saying is true or not. Karnal might be able to tell us since he knows a lot more about the legality of the refugee situation than me.
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Reply #288 - Nov 18th, 2010 at 4:26pm
 
mellie wrote on Nov 18th, 2010 at 4:14pm:
However we can fault immigrants and our officials who queue jump, or behave in a corrupt manner  this and set about entering or allowing others to enter our country illegally. Yes?

Talk about getting off on the wrong foot.

So much for fresh new starts!

....Before having even got here, they have already broken the law.

Roll Eyes


Sorry, M, no laws broken. If they did, I'm sure they'd get prosecuted.

It's legal to seek sanctuary under the Refugee Convention.
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Reply #289 - Nov 18th, 2010 at 4:28pm
 
I have a feeling you have a legal background of some kind Karnal. True/False?
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Reply #290 - Nov 18th, 2010 at 4:29pm
 
JC Denton wrote on Nov 18th, 2010 at 4:28pm:
I have a feeling you have a legal background of some kind Karnal. True/False?




sounds like a dorothy dixer!


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Reply #291 - Nov 18th, 2010 at 4:31pm
 
Karnal wrote on Nov 18th, 2010 at 4:26pm:
mellie wrote on Nov 18th, 2010 at 4:14pm:
However we can fault immigrants and our officials who queue jump, or behave in a corrupt manner  this and set about entering or allowing others to enter our country illegally. Yes?

Talk about getting off on the wrong foot.

So much for fresh new starts!

....Before having even got here, they have already broken the law.

Roll Eyes


Sorry, M, no laws broken. If they did, I'm sure they'd get prosecuted.

It's legal to seek sanctuary under the Refugee Convention.



But doesn't the fact they travel through several other (safe) countries first nullify that?
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Reply #292 - Nov 18th, 2010 at 4:32pm
 
HOW DO WE GET RACISM OFF OUR FRONT PAGES?

WHO FILLS UP AND GETS A FACE FULL OF INESCAPABLE RACIST PROPAGANDA AT THE PETROL STATION TWICE A WEEK???

  Lips Sealed Lips Sealed Lips Sealed Lips Sealed Lips Sealed  Cheesy
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*Sure....they're anti competitive as any subsidised job is.  It wouldn't be there without the tax payer.  Very damned difficult for a brainwashed collectivist to understand that I know....  (swaggy) *
 
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Reply #293 - Nov 18th, 2010 at 4:32pm
 
Karnal wrote on Nov 18th, 2010 at 4:26pm:
mellie wrote on Nov 18th, 2010 at 4:14pm:
However we can fault immigrants and our officials who queue jump, or behave in a corrupt manner  this and set about entering or allowing others to enter our country illegally. Yes?

Talk about getting off on the wrong foot.

So much for fresh new starts!






....Before having even got here, they have already broken the law.

Roll Eyes


Sorry, M, no laws broken. If they did, I'm sure they'd get prosecuted.

It's legal to seek sanctuary under the Refugee Convention.


So it's one of those legal illegal thingos whereby it's left up to individual immigrations officials own discretion whether or not they decide to raid work-places known to harbour illegal immigrants, this and continue detaining, rehabilitating those known to have liaised with terrorist networks then?

When breaking the law just became PC.

What a load of sh1t.

Roll Eyes.. Our government knows what's going on, re- the smuggling rackets in Indonesia, and they conveniently turn a blind eye, despite video evidence warranting a Commission of Inquiry into theirs and our officials criminality, wrong doing and why?

Because it suits them to allow ALP voters into the country, when ever single vote counts.

If they were worth their weight in salt, they wouldn't have to outsource minority votes in order to win elections would they...


Hmm? Roll Eyes


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Reply #294 - Nov 18th, 2010 at 4:34pm
 
... wrote on Nov 18th, 2010 at 4:31pm:
Karnal wrote on Nov 18th, 2010 at 4:26pm:
mellie wrote on Nov 18th, 2010 at 4:14pm:
However we can fault immigrants and our officials who queue jump, or behave in a corrupt manner  this and set about entering or allowing others to enter our country illegally. Yes?

Talk about getting off on the wrong foot.

So much for fresh new starts!

....Before having even got here, they have already broken the law.

Roll Eyes


Sorry, M, no laws broken. If they did, I'm sure they'd get prosecuted.

It's legal to seek sanctuary under the Refugee Convention.



But doesn't the fact they travel through several other (safe) countries first nullify that?

oH OH, TRYHARD KUNGFU-DOOD IS LOOKING FOR LOOPHOLES!

...omfmdrunk! dOES HE VOTE lIBERAL AND SMOKE CRACK?!!?
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*Sure....they're anti competitive as any subsidised job is.  It wouldn't be there without the tax payer.  Very damned difficult for a brainwashed collectivist to understand that I know....  (swaggy) *
 
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Reply #295 - Nov 18th, 2010 at 4:36pm
 
Excuse me. Ryu doesn't do kung-fu. His fighting style is the Shotokan Karate.

Hadouken!
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Reply #296 - Nov 18th, 2010 at 4:38pm
 
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 18th, 2010 at 4:34pm:
... wrote on Nov 18th, 2010 at 4:31pm:
Karnal wrote on Nov 18th, 2010 at 4:26pm:
mellie wrote on Nov 18th, 2010 at 4:14pm:
However we can fault immigrants and our officials who queue jump, or behave in a corrupt manner  this and set about entering or allowing others to enter our country illegally. Yes?

Talk about getting off on the wrong foot.

So much for fresh new starts!

....Before having even got here, they have already broken the law.

Roll Eyes


Sorry, M, no laws broken. If they did, I'm sure they'd get prosecuted.

It's legal to seek sanctuary under the Refugee Convention.



But doesn't the fact they travel through several other (safe) countries first nullify that?

oH OH, TRYHARD KUNGFU-DOOD IS LOOKING FOR LOOPHOLES!

...omfmdrunk! dOES HE VOTE lIBERAL AND SMOKE CRACK?!!?



No he doesn't vote for any of them, and smokes weed.  Anything else you'd like to know big fella?
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Reply #297 - Nov 18th, 2010 at 4:40pm
 
JC Denton wrote on Nov 18th, 2010 at 4:36pm:
Excuse me. Ryu doesn't do kung-fu. His fighting style is the Shotokan Karate.

Hadouken!

oh Oh, WATCH OUT FOR THE RACISM!

DON'T MIND THE PRETEND TOLERANT SOCIETY THAT IS aUSTRALIA!

tHIS TYPE OF HYPOCRISY IS EXACTLY WHAT GOT TARGETED ON 9-11!

hEY, STOP MAKING US A TARGET KUNG FOOL AND FELLOW HANGERS ON!


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Reply #298 - Nov 18th, 2010 at 4:43pm
 
mellie wrote on Nov 18th, 2010 at 4:32pm:
Karnal wrote on Nov 18th, 2010 at 4:26pm:
mellie wrote on Nov 18th, 2010 at 4:14pm:
However we can fault immigrants and our officials who queue jump, or behave in a corrupt manner  this and set about entering or allowing others to enter our country illegally. Yes?

Talk about getting off on the wrong foot.

So much for fresh new starts!






....Before having even got here, they have already broken the law.

Roll Eyes


Sorry, M, no laws broken. If they did, I'm sure they'd get prosecuted.

It's legal to seek sanctuary under the Refugee Convention.


So it's one of those legal illegal thingos whereby it's left up to individual immigrations officials own discretion whether or not they decide to raid work-places known to harbour illegal immigrants, this and continue detaining, rehabilitating those known to have liaised with terrorist networks then?


Working after you've overstayed your visa is illegal. Coming to a country that is a signatory to the US Convention and claiming assylum is legal.

Not sure what liaising with terrorist networks has to do with anything. You're not getting a tad paranoid, are you?
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Reply #299 - Nov 18th, 2010 at 4:45pm
 
... wrote on Nov 18th, 2010 at 4:31pm:
Karnal wrote on Nov 18th, 2010 at 4:26pm:
mellie wrote on Nov 18th, 2010 at 4:14pm:
However we can fault immigrants and our officials who queue jump, or behave in a corrupt manner  this and set about entering or allowing others to enter our country illegally. Yes?

Talk about getting off on the wrong foot.

So much for fresh new starts!

....Before having even got here, they have already broken the law.

Roll Eyes


Sorry, M, no laws broken. If they did, I'm sure they'd get prosecuted.

It's legal to seek sanctuary under the Refugee Convention.



But doesn't the fact they travel through several other (safe) countries first nullify that?


Not under the treaty or the law, no.
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