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Reply #660 - Dec 20^th, 2010 at 9:06pm

Enriching is subjective.

I am asking for a specific answer to a non-subjective question.

Either these people cost us money when they arrive or they do not.

Skilled migrants into Australia are not entitled to social welfare for 2 years. I have plenty of British mates living in Australia to know this.

Now these boat people. Do they cost us money or not????

Why so hard to answer??

Could it be (shock horror) some people dont like the answer?

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Reply #661 - Dec 20^th, 2010 at 9:07pm

Andrei, why on earth would you actually expect our government to collect data on that question? Equitist won't be able to answer you because our government doesn't actually like people finding out about that sort of thing. Best we all just be kept in the dark and nodding our heads to the "diversity is our greatest strength" mantra.

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Equitist Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9632 NSW	Re: And STILL they come....more Boat people Reply #662 - Dec 20^th, 2010 at 9:09pm Hmmnnn....I wonder...what would an objective observer make of this thread - and the last several contributions in particular!? Methinks they would find existing Aussies greatly in need of cultural enrichment - along with a good dose of humility and humanity...
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Re: And STILL they come....more Boat people
Reply #663 - Dec 20^th, 2010 at 9:10pm

Equitist wrote on Dec 20^th, 2010 at 9:09pm:

Hmmnnn....I wonder...what would an objective observer make of this thread - and the last several contributions in particular!?

Methinks they would find existing Aussies greatly in need of cultural enrichment - along with a good dose of humility and humanity...

still struggling for that answer I see....

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JC Denton Gold Member Offline Posts: 5470 Gender:	Re: And STILL they come....more Boat people Reply #664 - Dec 20^th, 2010 at 9:11pm That was just a weak copout of an answer, Equitist, and you know it. I'm quite familiar with a lot of information on this question. Just saying that they 'enrich us' doesn't make it so. They certainly don't enrich my life.
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Reply #665 - Dec 20^th, 2010 at 9:12pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 20^th, 2010 at 9:06pm:

Enriching is subjective.

I am asking for a specific answer to a non-subjective question.

Either these people cost us money when they arrive or they do not.

Skilled migrants into Australia are not entitled to social welfare for 2 years. I have plenty of British mates living in Australia to know this.

Now these boat people. Do they cost us money or not????

Why so hard to answer??

Could it be (shock horror) some people dont like the answer?

Yes and Yes Andrei.

And don't forget the free housing & accomodation, oh and medical etc.

They cost a lot of money.
And then they can bring in the rest of their family.

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Reply #666 - Dec 20^th, 2010 at 9:15pm

And listen to yourself. Your response reaks of liberal status asserting and a sense of your own personal enlightment.. an 'objective' (frankly a bizarre statement since whether or not multiracial/multicultural immigrants 'enrich' us is fundamentally a subjective view point) observer in your view would see that Andrei and myself are in need of 'enriching'. Maybe some sensitivty training, perhaps? We don't fall lock step in with the liberal, multiculti multiracial zeitgeist! Silence us! Silence the heretics!

Your own statement attempts to paint us as literally defective.

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Reply #667 - Dec 20^th, 2010 at 9:16pm

Equitist wrote on Dec 20^th, 2010 at 9:09pm:

Methinks they would find existing Aussies greatly in need of cultural enrichment ...

Cultural enrichment????
Oh you must mean the ability to destroy boats, kill other fellow human beings, lose identification, how a 35 yearold can masquerade as a 17 year old, how a Pakistani can masquerade as an Afghanistani, the conspiracy and deliberately breaking our laws. Yes that sort of cultural enrichment. Well I guess Australia just does not want that sort here.
Wonders of the mobile phone getting text messages from insiders from Australia on how to flaunt the laws and how to............queue jump!

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JC Denton Gold Member Offline Posts: 5470 Gender:	Re: And STILL they come....more Boat people Reply #668 - Dec 20^th, 2010 at 9:18pm Jared Taylor on 'diversity'.
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Reply #669 - Dec 20^th, 2010 at 9:21pm

Oh, fer smack's sake - listen to yourselves...

Humans are subjective - it is intrinsic to our humanity...

Money is arbitrary - the senseless focus on cost is extrinsic and counter-productive to the betterment of humanity...

Everything doesn't boil down to simple black and white factors - especially not to monetary ones...

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Miss Anne Dryst Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2296 Sydney Gender:	Re: And STILL they come....more Boat people Reply #670 - Dec 20^th, 2010 at 9:23pm If only you would.
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JC Denton Gold Member Offline Posts: 5470 Gender:	Re: And STILL they come....more Boat people Reply #671 - Dec 20^th, 2010 at 9:23pm What the f*ck kind of response was that? How am I talking about monetary factors here?! Sorry, that was babble.
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Reply #672 - Dec 20^th, 2010 at 9:24pm

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And don't forget the free housing & accomodation, oh and medical etc.

I never know whether to laugh or cry when one of those 'refugee advocates' pops up and says that boat people don't get any special treatment when it comes to housing.

So, where do they live once they're released from detention (or, 4 star motels, paid for by the taxpayer, of course) and granted residency here?

Because, I never hear of boat people doing it rough - living on the streets and in cars, etc. Unlike some of the tens of thousands of AUSTRALIANS who wait for years and years on ever increasing public housing waiting lists.

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Equitist Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9632 NSW	Re: And STILL they come....more Boat people Reply #673 - Dec 20^th, 2010 at 9:27pm JC Denton wrote on Dec 20^th, 2010 at 9:23pm: What the f*ck kind of response was that? How am I talking about monetary factors here?! Sorry, that was babble. LOL...I was responding primarily to Android - I hadn't even seen yours...
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JC Denton Gold Member Offline Posts: 5470 Gender:	Re: And STILL they come....more Boat people Reply #674 - Dec 20^th, 2010 at 9:28pm lol, fair enough.
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