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Nov 17th, 2010 at 9:09pm
 
This is a riot, nothing like the numbskull yanks to provide a barrel of laughs. And half you hicks here aren't that far behind them.

I actually remember quite a few years back when a Maronite Christian church got vandalised with anti-Islamic graffiti in Sydney, because obviously the knuckle dragging goons who did it couldn't read the big sign in English that said "CHURCH", they just saw the Arabic writing and that was it.



Church in Arizona protested because it looks like a mosque


Islamophobia may have reached a point in this country where people condemn Christians that they suspect are Muslims without ever checking the facts.

In Phoenix, Arizona, a new Christian church has residents fearing that it is an Islamic mosque.

The Light of the World multidenominational church is being built just off of Interstate 10 and features a dome-like structure.

"Since the distinctive dome shape went up, church leaders said they have received phone calls from concerned neighbors who've mistaken the building for an Islamic mosque," KPHO reported.

"I heard many people, they came over and they say, 'Is this a Muslim temple?' No, it's not," church member Juan Calixto told KPNX.

"It is unfortunate that people are so intolerant to differences that they aren’t willing to see that the place of worship is not a mosque," said Tayyibah Amatullah of the Council on American-Islamic Relations’ Arizona chapter.

Church officials have hung a sign to let people know they aren't Muslim. "If you think we are different you are wrong," the sign reads. "We are building a Christian house of prayer."

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"We're trying to let people know that we're Christian and our churches are modern," Uzieo Martinez, a church official told KPHO.

Officials are trying to avoid the type of backlash received by the Park51 Islamic center that is planned near Ground Zero.

The cultural center was largely ignored when The New York Times first reported about it in December 2009.

The project received wider notice in May 2010 when a community board considered the construction plans. Conservative bloggers Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer dubbed the proposed center the "Ground Zero Mosque" which started a national controversy.

"But with so many high-profile figures selling unfounded, anti-Muslim fear to the public, is it any wonder that all many Americans can see in Islam is a phantom menace?" asked Tanya Somanader at the liberal blog Think Progress.

Source: Raw Story
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Reply #1 - Nov 17th, 2010 at 9:31pm
 
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And half you hicks here aren't that far behind them.


What's it like being a member of the culture of critique, Abu?

Do you do nothing else here except dispense insults to most of the memberbase and track down articles of Westerners behaving badly?

Why don't you move to Iran, buddy? I'll gladly pay your fare.
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Reply #2 - Nov 17th, 2010 at 9:34pm
 
As I've mentioned before, I'm not too fond of the Iranian weather.
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Reply #3 - Nov 17th, 2010 at 9:35pm
 
I'll buy you an airconditioner and a central heating unit.

My friend's dad works in the business.
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Reply #4 - Nov 17th, 2010 at 9:38pm
 
..And I'm scared of earthquakes.
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Reply #5 - Nov 17th, 2010 at 9:39pm
 
I'll make you a house made of wood. They don't fall over.

I used to be afraid of earthquakes too but now I'm Imperium of the Rising Sun. I'm a changed man, frien.
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Reply #6 - Nov 17th, 2010 at 10:50pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Nov 17th, 2010 at 9:09pm:
This is a riot, nothing like the numbskull yanks to provide a barrel of laughs. And half you hicks here aren't that far behind them.

I actually remember quite a few years back when a Maronite Christian church got vandalised with anti-Islamic graffiti in Sydney, because obviously the knuckle dragging goons who did it couldn't read the big sign in English that said "CHURCH", they just saw the Arabic writing and that was it.



Well, at the rate you guys are killing off the Christians in 'your Muslim lands', who is surprised that in ordinary people's minds Arab = insufferable crazy Muslim.

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Another side splitter. Islamophobia is definitely a disease of the demented.

Hate overcomes all [reason].



MONDAY, JUN 7, 2010 19:10 ET

"Ground Zero Mosque" protest ends up, predictably, with racially-motivated hatred

Don't call these patriots bigots just because they harassed some Egyptian men for looking like Muslims
BY ALEX PAREENE


People in New York protest the proposed construction of a mosque near the World Trade Center site on Sunday, June 6.
There was a protest yesterday, attended by various wingnuts, racists, riled-up nativists, and terrified fools, of the supposed "Ground Zero mosque." (It will not be at Ground Zero, and it will actually be a community center that will include a mosque. But still.)

While national conservatives have picked up the ball, what local opposition there is to the proposed community center has been ginned up by Rupert Murdoch's New York Post -- mainly via perpetually outraged columnist Andrea Peyser, whose anti-mosque columns are regularly teased on the front page.

The entire anti-mosque campaign isn't about anything other than pure, paranoid Islamophobia. A Peyser column a few weeks ago was entirely about people in Sheepshead Bay -- some miles from Ground Zero -- protesting a proposed mosque solely because they're scared of Muslims.

Anyway, they had their protest yesterday. Mike Kelly of the Bergen (New Jersey) Record reported this heartwarming incident:

At one point, a portion of the crowd menacingly surrounded two Egyptian men who were speaking Arabic and were thought to be Muslims.

"Go home," several shouted from the crowd.

"Get out," others shouted.

In fact, the two men – Joseph Nassralla and Karam El Masry — were not Muslims at all. They turned out to be Egyptian Coptic Christians who work for a California-based Christian satellite TV station called "The Way." Both said they had come to protest the mosque.

"I'm a Christian," Nassralla shouted to the crowd, his eyes bulging and beads of sweat rolling down his face.

But it was no use. The protesters had become so angry at what they thought were Muslims that New York City police officers had to rush in and pull Nassralla and El Masry to safety.

"I flew nine hours in an airplane to come here," a frustrated Nassralla said afterward.

But don't you dare call these people bigots!

Source: Salon
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Reply #8 - Nov 18th, 2010 at 12:21pm
 
I agree with Abu, irrational hatred of people based on appearances, or ill conceived ideas about their culture, is abhorrent.

We see it in a lot of communities, we see some Asians that are very prejudiced against other Asians, we see some Christians that are fanatically anti-Muslim, and some Muslims that are fanatically anti-Western, and they all can justify to themselves, why they consider their position, rational.

The simple truth is that we all have faults, and there are elements within most cultures that are worthy of disdain, but to expand that disdain to whole cultures is always wrong.
Not that long ago, we had many Aussies who hated all Japanese, with a passion, because of the war crimes committed by Japanese soldiers during WW2, but most normal people let go of the hatred, and forgive, so that everyone can move forward.
Any rationale for hatred, that relies upon holding onto historical enmities, sometimes dating back hundreds of years, is going to lead toward unnecessary division, when we could make much better decisions by putting the past behind us, and trying to deal with the issues of the day.

We can look to the turnaround we saw in Ireland, where hostilities had been going on for centuries, and then we saw a community led movement which said, enough was enough, it is time to let go of the past, bury our divisions, and move forward in peace.

They withdrew their support for the radicals and extremists who had made "The Struggle", the entire focus of their existence, and put their support behind peaceful dialogue and peaceful negotiations.

We need to emulate that lead from the Irish, when considering the conflict between Islam and The West, and just stop apportioning blame, and stop supporting extremism, no matter where it springs from.
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Reply #9 - Nov 18th, 2010 at 2:45pm
 
mozzaok wrote on Nov 18th, 2010 at 12:21pm:
I agree with Abu, irrational hatred of people based on appearances, or ill conceived ideas about their culture, is abhorrent.

We see it in a lot of communities, we see some Asians that are very prejudiced against other Asians, we see some Christians that are fanatically anti-Muslim, and some Muslims that are fanatically anti-Western, and they all can justify to themselves, why they consider their position, rational.

The simple truth is that we all have faults, and there are elements within most cultures that are worthy of disdain, but to expand that disdain to whole cultures is always wrong.
Not that long ago, we had many Aussies who hated all Japanese, with a passion, because of the war crimes committed by Japanese soldiers during WW2, but most normal people let go of the hatred, and forgive, so that everyone can move forward.
Any rationale for hatred, that relies upon holding onto historical enmities, sometimes dating back hundreds of years, is going to lead toward unnecessary division, when we could make much better decisions by putting the past behind us, and trying to deal with the issues of the day.

We can look to the turnaround we saw in Ireland, where hostilities had been going on for centuries, and then we saw a community led movement which said, enough was enough, it is time to let go of the past, bury our divisions, and move forward in peace.

They withdrew their support for the radicals and extremists who had made "The Struggle", the entire focus of their existence, and put their support behind peaceful dialogue and peaceful negotiations.

We need to emulate that lead from the Irish, when considering the conflict between Islam and The West, and just stop apportioning blame, and stop supporting extremism, no matter where it springs from.


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Reply #10 - Nov 18th, 2010 at 3:13pm
 

seems the west does NOT want islam anywhere near us.
get the message ???

We don't like muslims.

How does that work for you ?
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Reply #11 - Nov 18th, 2010 at 6:46pm
 
Mozza,

Not a bad post, but the thing which needs to stop is the warmongering and occupation and resource-pillaging. When this stops, there'd be no need for any of the conflict anyway.

I view the Islam/West conflict much like a big hungry bear, that just can't keep his paws out of the bees' honey. He just keeps going back for more, and each time he gets stung, he takes a swing at the bees and kills a dozen or so, and each bee that stings him is quite willing to sacrifice itself, just to get rid of this damned bear, knowing it's their last desperate hope for survival.

The only solution is for the bear to realise he can't have the honey, plain and simple. The bees will never cease stinging him, and really who could blame them?
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Reply #12 - Nov 18th, 2010 at 7:21pm
 
mozzaok wrote on Nov 18th, 2010 at 12:21pm:
Not that long ago, we had many Aussies who hated all Japanese, with a passion, because of the war crimes committed by Japanese soldiers during WW2, but most normal people let go of the hatred, and forgive, so that everyone can move forward.

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Geez you're hilarious!

They didn't forgive... They died of old age!

You really think the Russians have forgiven the Germans?

Or the Poles forgiven the Russians and the Germans? (Apparently they don't mind the Austrians!)

Will Shia's ever forgive Sunnis?

The Orthodox Church the Catholic Church?

The Jews, the Germans?

The Palestinians the Israelis?

The Israelis the Palestinians?

The Pakistanis the Indians?
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Reply #13 - Nov 19th, 2010 at 10:52am
 
Cynic.

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Reply #14 - Nov 19th, 2010 at 1:37pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Nov 18th, 2010 at 7:06am:
Another side splitter. Islamophobia is definitely a disease of the demented.

Hate overcomes all [reason].





Asia Bibi, a mother of five children, is accused of insulting the Prophet Mohammed.
She hasd been sentenced to death after a mob of angry villagers, spurred on by clerics, tried to attack the 45-year-old over a dispute about whether a Christian should be allowed to handle a container filled with drinking water for Muslims.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/8142127/Pope-Benedict-XV...



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