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Re: What is the best wrist watch to buy?
Reply #15 - Nov 20^th, 2010 at 5:10pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 20^th, 2010 at 4:42pm:

Seiko is a good brand...My last 'Big W' special keeps less than 2 minutes per month...but if someone smashes it, or steals it...I really don't care..

Eventually I'll buy a 'flash' one and keep it for special occasions..

I have a Seiko kinetic watch in a drawer somewhere. I didn't like the metal wrist band so I gave up wearing it.

It also had time relay. That was plain weird. It must work off wireless time stations or something. When you hop off a flight, the hands whiz around to the right time. At first, I wondered what the noise was. Sometimes it takes an hour or so to adjust.

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Re: What is the best wrist watch to buy?
Reply #16 - Nov 20^th, 2010 at 5:36pm

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I don't agree.
Read the link I gave & you will see masterpieces which
give such accurate time compared to mechanical only watches.

While it's true that quartz watches can be more accurate than any mechanical watch, you'll find that it's the mechanical watches which are the most prized.

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I think an Omega or Rolex would calm you down

Yet you pick two brands who only make mechanical watches?
Omega never have (their Swatch brand aside) and Rolex stopped making them a decade ago.

For a lot of us, there's something about having a miniature mechanical marvel sitting on your wrist.

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Re: What is the best wrist watch to buy?
Reply #17 - Nov 20^th, 2010 at 9:41pm

Life_goes_on wrote on Nov 20^th, 2010 at 5:36pm:

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I don't agree.
Read the link I gave & you will see masterpieces which
give such accurate time compared to mechanical only watches.

While it's true that quartz watches can be more accurate than any mechanical watch, you'll find that it's the mechanical watches which are the most prized.

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I think an Omega or Rolex would calm you down

Yet you pick two brands who only make mechanical watches?
Omega never have (their Swatch brand aside) and Rolex stopped making them a decade ago.

For a lot of us, there's something about having a miniature mechanical marvel sitting on your wrist.

Hello - the watch on the first page of this article is a Rolex & it says:
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It uses a Temperature Compensated Voltage Controlled Crystal Oscillator (TCVCXO).

It's not a mechanical watch.

Here is an Omega Seamaster watch & it says
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Caliber: Omega 1538
Quartz precision movement with rhodium-plated finish. End of battery life indicator
Power reserve: 27 / 36 months

It's not a mechanical watch either.

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Re: What is the best wrist watch to buy?
Reply #19 - Nov 21^st, 2010 at 6:20am

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 21^st, 2010 at 1:34am:

Are there still some neo-Luddites out there who don't realise mobile phones have clocks in them nowadays?

Abu - this thread is about technology in wrist watches not mobile phones.
That would be another thread if you want to start one.
I thought that Muslims love nice watches?
I heard Bahrain & Dubai are full of watch shops?

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Re: What is the best wrist watch to buy?
Reply #20 - Nov 21^st, 2010 at 6:48am

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Seiko is a good brand...My last 'Big W' special keeps less than 2 minutes per month...but if someone smashes it, or steals it...I really don't care..

Yeah, but it looks like garbage and as a result, makes you look poor. A nice watch is about status signaling, it's plain and simple.

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I thought that Muslims love nice watches?
I heard Bahrain & Dubai are full of watch shops?
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Arabs love status signaling too. I mean when you're that ugly, what choice do you have?

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 103090 Melbourne Gender:	Re: What is the best wrist watch to buy? Reply #21 - Nov 21^st, 2010 at 7:34am Quote: Arabs love status signaling too. I mean when you're that ugly, what choice do you have? Some of those Arab women are beautifull - that's if you can see them under their tents that they wear.
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Re: What is the best wrist watch to buy?
Reply #22 - Nov 21^st, 2010 at 8:39pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 20^th, 2010 at 9:41pm:

Life_goes_on wrote on Nov 20^th, 2010 at 5:36pm:

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I don't agree.
Read the link I gave & you will see masterpieces which
give such accurate time compared to mechanical only watches.

While it's true that quartz watches can be more accurate than any mechanical watch, you'll find that it's the mechanical watches which are the most prized.

Quote:

I think an Omega or Rolex would calm you down

Yet you pick two brands who only make mechanical watches?
Omega never have (their Swatch brand aside) and Rolex stopped making them a decade ago.

For a lot of us, there's something about having a miniature mechanical marvel sitting on your wrist.

Hello - the watch on the first page of this article is a Rolex & it says:
Quote:

It uses a Temperature Compensated Voltage Controlled Crystal Oscillator (TCVCXO).

It's not a mechanical watch.

Here is an Omega Seamaster watch & it says
Quote:

Caliber: Omega 1538
Quartz precision movement with rhodium-plated finish. End of battery life indicator
Power reserve: 27 / 36 months

It's not a mechanical watch either.

My humble apologies, you're correct, although Rolex ceased production of the one in the OP in 2001.

It's probably a good idea for both Rolex and Omega to offer budget (quartz) movements as an alternative to their pricier mechanical automatic movements. Especially for those who are purely making a purchase based upon the brand name.

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Reply #23 - Nov 21^st, 2010 at 10:20pm

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My humble apologies, you're correct, although Rolex ceased production of the one in the OP in 2001.

It's probably a good idea for both Rolex and Omega to offer budget (quartz) movements as an alternative to their pricier mechanical automatic movements. Especially for those who are purely making a purchase based upon the brand name.

No worries.
The Omega Seamaster 300 metre watch (above) costs around $5,000.
It's hardly for those on a budget.
I know that I would prefer the quartz version they make because it's more accurate.

This thread is placed in the - "Technically speaking" section for a reason.
It's to technically evaluate the best watches.
I hope you have read the article at this address:?

http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=2087

It gives a wonderful insight into the technical advances made with quartz.
In fact the quartz crystal oscillates in a mechanical way.
It actually moves back & forth at high frequency so it is in some ways
still a mechanical watch.
The battery is only used to excite the quartz to move.
Some watches have 2 crystals & temperature compensation as well.

To me the watches shown are so advanced that pure mechanical watches
are more a curiosity than a preferred method of time keeping.

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Re: What is the best wrist watch to buy?
Reply #24 - Nov 21^st, 2010 at 10:41pm

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The Omega Seamaster 300 metre watch (above) costs around $5,000.
It's hardly for those on a budget.

Yes, the mechanical automatic version costs around $5,000. The quartz version retails for under $3,000.

So in comparison, the Quartz version is the budget version - that's if you're looking to spend between $2k and $5k on a wrist tick tock by Omega.

Care to guess which one will hold its value the best?

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Re: What is the best wrist watch to buy?
Reply #25 - Nov 21^st, 2010 at 11:04pm

Life_goes_on wrote on Nov 21^st, 2010 at 10:41pm:

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The Omega Seamaster 300 metre watch (above) costs around $5,000.
It's hardly for those on a budget.

Yes, the mechanical automatic version costs around $5,000. The quartz version retails for under $3,000.

So in comparison, the Quartz version is the budget version - that's if you're looking to spend between $2k and $5k on a wrist tick tock by Omega.

Care to guess which one will hold its value the best?

To be honest I can't find the Seamaster above again.
I am not sure of the prices.
You are right in that at this moment collectors seem to value
the pure mechanical watches much more.

God knows what the Rolex on the front page would cost?
- and that is a quartz version.

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Reply #26 - Nov 22^nd, 2010 at 2:26pm

I just noticed this thread, I am a watchmaker by trade, but haven't worked as one since i finished my apprenticeship 28 years ago, thanks to the cheap watches available nowadays watchmaking is about as useful trade as candle stick making.
I dont even know if they still run a course nowadays, but even in the class I was in we only had 18 people from all over NSW so I doubt too many more trained after me.
All of that said, I never worked on a rolex but omega made some quality watches,as for the run of the mill affordable watches on the market now, Seiko still make a couple of mechanical watches, I have one that I bought about three years ago and it was only a few hundred bucks,but it gains about a minute a month and as its a 100 metre (which only means you can go ten metres under water btw) watch I wouldn't bother trying to get it fixed, once they are opened the seal can not be guaranteed to work as well.
If you want the "best" I'd be looking at Swiss made, but thats just my opinion,as bobby has said most quartz watches keep better time anyway. I remember when Casio watches first became popular in Aus, that was the beginning of the end for watchmaking, all they needed was a new battery and the customer was on their way.

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Reply #28 - Nov 22^nd, 2010 at 3:07pm

skippy. wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2010 at 2:26pm:

I just noticed this thread, I am a watchmaker by trade, but haven't worked as one since i finished my apprenticeship 28 years ago, thanks to the cheap watches available nowadays watchmaking is about as useful trade as candle stick making.
I dont even know if they still run a course nowadays, but even in the class I was in we only had 18 people from all over NSW so I doubt too many more trained after me.
All of that said, I never worked on a rolex but omega made some quality watches,as for the run of the mill affordable watches on the market now, Seiko still make a couple of mechanical watches, I have one that I bought about three years ago and it was only a few hundred bucks,but it gains about a minute a month and as its a 100 metre (which only means you can go ten metres under water btw) watch I wouldn't bother trying to get it fixed, once they are opened the seal can not be guaranteed to work as well.
If you want the "best" I'd be looking at Swiss made, but thats just my opinion,as bobby has said most quartz watches keep better time anyway. I remember when Casio watches first became popular in Aus, that was the beginning of the end for watchmaking, all they needed was a new battery and the customer was on their way.

Thanks Skippy.
Did you ever work on a dual crystal temperature compensated watch?
That seems to be the ultimate in time keeping now.

As for 300m waterproof - I doubt that too.
When people go diving they buy a proper divers watch -
they don't use a Rolex. Grin

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Reply #29 - Nov 22^nd, 2010 at 4:02pm

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Thanks Skippy.
Did you ever work on a dual crystal temperature compensated watch?

No, I'm not sure I've even heard of one until you just wrote it, but I haven't worked on a watch for about 28 years, though I have played with a few old clocks that my wife got off her grandma, one of those is still keeping good time,but clocks were always much easier to work on compered to watches.

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